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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
December 22 2012 21:19 GMT
#34521
On December 23 2012 06:12 PassiveAce wrote:
How is it a one shot if you use refresher?

You get refresher for the int and to 1 shot them all again 30 seconds later when they revive
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Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
December 22 2012 23:14 GMT
#34522
On December 23 2012 05:39 Klonere wrote:
http://dotaland.net/2012/12/21/oldschool-pro-zhaoyun-on-forming-a-tongfu-int-squad-lol-being-low-skill-and-returning-to-dota/

Did I miss us talking about this interview? It pretty much confirms a Tongfu.Int team. Also heavy flames @ LoL haha



Oh god, Solara..... Bahahahaha

Still, new teams are fun.

Unrelated note, I played lesh for the first time since nerfs. Bleeegghhh. So sad, it takes him half an hour to cast his spells.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
December 22 2012 23:21 GMT
#34523
Doesn't OD have effectively infinite mana once aura is maxed anyway?
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 23:22:53
December 22 2012 23:22 GMT
#34524
On December 23 2012 08:21 ControlMonkey wrote:
Doesn't OD have effectively infinite mana once aura is maxed anyway?

He maximizes damage by keeping his mana pool at max, if you have a good 5~8 orbs without a proc you've reduced your damage by quite a lot, and you can toggle RoB while attacking.
But yes it loses effectiveness the later it goes.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
December 22 2012 23:28 GMT
#34525
So RoB is core on every hero when you have an OD on your team and you want to abuse the bug.
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
December 22 2012 23:31 GMT
#34526
On December 23 2012 08:28 Kishin2 wrote:
So RoB is core on every hero when you have an OD on your team and you want to abuse the bug.


It only works on OD himself.
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
December 22 2012 23:32 GMT
#34527
On December 23 2012 08:31 SpiZe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 08:28 Kishin2 wrote:
So RoB is core on every hero when you have an OD on your team and you want to abuse the bug.


It only works on OD himself.

Well, that's weird.
ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
December 22 2012 23:52 GMT
#34528
On December 23 2012 08:22 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 08:21 ControlMonkey wrote:
Doesn't OD have effectively infinite mana once aura is maxed anyway?

He maximizes damage by keeping his mana pool at max, if you have a good 5~8 orbs without a proc you've reduced your damage by quite a lot, and you can toggle RoB while attacking.
But yes it loses effectiveness the later it goes.


I didn't know his orb damage was calculated based on his remaining mana pool, not max mana pool.

The more you know.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
December 23 2012 00:10 GMT
#34529
On December 23 2012 08:21 ControlMonkey wrote:
Doesn't OD have effectively infinite mana once aura is maxed anyway?

its obviously abused in the laning phase, it allows you to spam your orb + prison without risk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Imbajoe
Profile Joined September 2010
United States857 Posts
December 23 2012 00:28 GMT
#34530
any chance valve would punish people who abuse it?
i wear a kitten scarf
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 23 2012 00:30 GMT
#34531
like, 0.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Malky
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark44 Posts
December 23 2012 00:42 GMT
#34532
this takes me back to TA abusing meld+RoB to oneshot rosh :D
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 23 2012 00:51 GMT
#34533
On December 23 2012 05:39 Klonere wrote:
http://dotaland.net/2012/12/21/oldschool-pro-zhaoyun-on-forming-a-tongfu-int-squad-lol-being-low-skill-and-returning-to-dota/

Did I miss us talking about this interview? It pretty much confirms a Tongfu.Int team. Also heavy flames @ LoL haha

if he can get some better teammates, it should be very exciting. like chu
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
December 23 2012 01:05 GMT
#34534
On December 23 2012 06:03 Kupon3ss wrote:
OD is all about the veil of discord aghs refresher one shot opposing team build

Why agh? so the ult can go for 10x to 11x?
11 * (d + 10 ) = 10 * (d + alternative int)

d = 10 * (alternative int-10)
So a mystic staff is better if the rest of your int difference < 150 (and costs less)
Guinsoo is better if your int difference < 250.
12 + 6 + 8
At level 25 with 10 levels of stats, you should have 125 int. 12 from veil, 6 from refresher, 8 from power treads, if you had 2 more guinsoos, that's still 221 - enemy int. If the enemy has >70 int, a 25 int item (orchid, rod of atos, skadi) will always be better.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
December 23 2012 01:12 GMT
#34535
people take kupo's advice too seriously
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
December 23 2012 01:17 GMT
#34536
Practically speaking, Refresher is better than Agha. I know, it is hard to believe that.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 01:18:48
December 23 2012 01:18 GMT
#34537
A lot of people love agh on obsidian when they want to stomp the other team, but they don't know it's not worth it.

Just do the old mass mystic staffs build.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
December 23 2012 01:21 GMT
#34538
last time i played with a od on my team he rushed staff. he got it very fast due to free farm but its still a useless staff.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
December 23 2012 01:34 GMT
#34539
[image loading]
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aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
December 23 2012 01:39 GMT
#34540
looks legit
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