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TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 14:42:50
December 12 2012 14:39 GMT
#33021
On December 12 2012 23:13 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 22:51 Unleashing wrote:
>Introduce guy from a forum to DotA
>He's never heard about it or played a game in the genre before
>Suddenly notice he's playing it a lot
>35 hours used on it in 5 days
>"I've never been this into a game, i spent all of yesterday watching the international"
:D
Plus he's improving at a steady rate, he's already using lobbies to practice last hitting.

Feels good.

Even though I harbor no hatred towards LoL, my favourite is still when an ex-LoL player comes and says how he really has enjoyed dota2 after converting.

Brewmaster converted me lol https://dotabuff.com/players/110335492/heroes ,loooove playing brew.
There isn't anything similar in LoL and all the new champions that are coming out aren't really my thing so here I am.(they also nuked the game with the last patch so didn't feel like relearning everything,maybe at some point later)
On December 12 2012 22:51 Unleashing wrote:
>Introduce guy from a forum to DotA
>He's never heard about it or played a game in the genre before
>Suddenly notice he's playing it a lot
>35 hours used on it in 5 days
>"I've never been this into a game, i spent all of yesterday watching the international"
:D
Plus he's improving at a steady rate, he's already using lobbies to practice last hitting.

Feels good.

I know how he feels zzz when you have a shiny new toy it's really hard to stop.Have 75 hours played in the last 2 weeks and only been playing since 3 weeks now.
Cackle™
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
December 12 2012 14:41 GMT
#33022
Uhh. So Valve just sent me 4 invites at once. Lol
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 14:51:55
December 12 2012 14:50 GMT
#33023
After trying both 40 or so straight games with TA, and randoming, I settled for the middle term by using random.org to pick from a pool of heroes I'm comfortable with on pubs. So far, Drow, TA, OD, Juggernaut, Clinkz, Sven, Tiny, Huskar, CK, NS, DB, SF, FV, QoP, Lina, Enchantress, Tinker and Luna. No more 40min of staring at hopeless carries while unable to do shit because I randomed Crystal fucking Maiden.
NeonFlare
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Finland1307 Posts
December 12 2012 14:51 GMT
#33024
So, I decide to play a relaxed game and maybe make some goofy items, only to end up randoming some of the top picks. Well then enemies random other similar high picks, suddenly last players go full on tournament mode and the game begins with instant courier, wards, everything!
Dire easy camp pulls, ganks to mid to get the game going, double roams from both teams, what - the - hell is going on.

I should really just pick Ogre and go Shadowblade/MoM/Basher or something...
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
December 12 2012 14:54 GMT
#33025
I don't cent is even a lock for winning a game at this point. All the magnus play from various tournies makes me feel like he does cent's job of initiating just as well but the added bonus of empower rounds out your team so much better (espc after the nerf to cent's ult).
tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
December 12 2012 15:06 GMT
#33026
On December 12 2012 23:41 Fwizzz wrote:
Uhh. So Valve just sent me 4 invites at once. Lol

Lol, I also recieved an email today giving me two more invites.... I now have a grand total of 6 invites on one account. I also have like 3 invites spread over two smurf accounts... >.>

Hopefully this means that Valve is releasing DotA soon.
Road to 6sange
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 12 2012 15:23 GMT
#33027
On December 12 2012 23:50 Soap wrote:
After trying both 40 or so straight games with TA, and randoming, I settled for the middle term by using random.org to pick from a pool of heroes I'm comfortable with on pubs. So far, Drow, TA, OD, Juggernaut, Clinkz, Sven, Tiny, Huskar, CK, NS, DB, SF, FV, QoP, Lina, Enchantress, Tinker and Luna. No more 40min of staring at hopeless carries while unable to do shit because I randomed Crystal fucking Maiden.

Why do you need Random.org for that? You could just click "Spin to Random Hero" until you get one of those.
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pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 15:41:05
December 12 2012 15:40 GMT
#33028
On December 12 2012 23:39 Gentso wrote:
For me it's a topic of ethics. Personally, I don't willingly pick blatanly overpowered heroes because I don't want to be that guy. To me, it's almost like cheating. So when I see other people pick drow for example, especially if they pick her 100+ times, I lose respect because it looks to me like these people need an unfair advantage to win.


I feel exactly the same way man.
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
December 12 2012 15:52 GMT
#33029
On December 13 2012 00:23 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 23:50 Soap wrote:
After trying both 40 or so straight games with TA, and randoming, I settled for the middle term by using random.org to pick from a pool of heroes I'm comfortable with on pubs. So far, Drow, TA, OD, Juggernaut, Clinkz, Sven, Tiny, Huskar, CK, NS, DB, SF, FV, QoP, Lina, Enchantress, Tinker and Luna. No more 40min of staring at hopeless carries while unable to do shit because I randomed Crystal fucking Maiden.

Why do you need Random.org for that? You could just click "Spin to Random Hero" until you get one of those.

I think it's mainly so that the pool of heroes is limited
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
December 12 2012 15:59 GMT
#33030
On December 12 2012 23:50 Soap wrote:
After trying both 40 or so straight games with TA, and randoming, I settled for the middle term by using random.org to pick from a pool of heroes I'm comfortable with on pubs. So far, Drow, TA, OD, Juggernaut, Clinkz, Sven, Tiny, Huskar, CK, NS, DB, SF, FV, QoP, Lina, Enchantress, Tinker and Luna. No more 40min of staring at hopeless carries while unable to do shit because I randomed Crystal fucking Maiden.


Just carry CM np.

https://dotabuff.com/matches/64745484
https://dotabuff.com/matches/55722044
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 12 2012 15:59 GMT
#33031
On December 13 2012 00:52 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 00:23 TheYango wrote:
On December 12 2012 23:50 Soap wrote:
After trying both 40 or so straight games with TA, and randoming, I settled for the middle term by using random.org to pick from a pool of heroes I'm comfortable with on pubs. So far, Drow, TA, OD, Juggernaut, Clinkz, Sven, Tiny, Huskar, CK, NS, DB, SF, FV, QoP, Lina, Enchantress, Tinker and Luna. No more 40min of staring at hopeless carries while unable to do shit because I randomed Crystal fucking Maiden.

Why do you need Random.org for that? You could just click "Spin to Random Hero" until you get one of those.

I think it's mainly so that the pool of heroes is limited


So he can press the "spin to random hero" button again, its not that hard

With respect to consciously choosing OP heroes: There isn't anything wrong with this, so long as you are willing to play 2 weeks from now when IceFrog nerfs your hero and all of a sudden you aren't nearly as good as the system "thinks" you are, due to inflating its opinion of you with skewed data (aka games with imbalanced heroes). I mean, winning a bunch mostly ends up with you merely having a too-high MMR, playing players much better than you, and getting trashed repeatedly. What goes up must come down (unless you actually improve in overall skill by playing vs good opponents. In which case, more power to you).
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Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
December 12 2012 16:12 GMT
#33032
I usually don't want to play drow because its essentially a guaranteed win. The only game I've ever lost with drow was when I was matched with 3 xxx420mlggamerproxxx people who just fed all game. And I still almost carried the game. I want to have to put forth some effort into winning when I play a game. Its no fun just to win every time doing the same thing.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 12 2012 16:22 GMT
#33033
I kinda wish you could see stats "by percentile". Actually just by decile, but that term is not used very much.

AKA "the top 10% of players win with drow 70% of the time, but the next 10% are only at 65% winrate..." etc etc.

Because I feel like the hero is too good, but still addressable in game, and I'm curious to know at what skill level is she too easy to crush with vs at what skill level is she too easy to gank or w/e.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
December 12 2012 16:32 GMT
#33034
On December 13 2012 00:23 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 23:50 Soap wrote:
After trying both 40 or so straight games with TA, and randoming, I settled for the middle term by using random.org to pick from a pool of heroes I'm comfortable with on pubs. So far, Drow, TA, OD, Juggernaut, Clinkz, Sven, Tiny, Huskar, CK, NS, DB, SF, FV, QoP, Lina, Enchantress, Tinker and Luna. No more 40min of staring at hopeless carries while unable to do shit because I randomed Crystal fucking Maiden.

Why do you need Random.org for that? You could just click "Spin to Random Hero" until you get one of those.


It doesn't take 6 tries on average and I don't have to wait for the selection screen.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
December 12 2012 16:36 GMT
#33035
the random button is the way to go. it does hurt when your carries dont carry but i dont really mind it anymore.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 12 2012 16:45 GMT
#33036
On December 13 2012 01:36 aintz wrote:
the random button is the way to go. it does hurt when your carries dont carry but i dont really mind it anymore.


The problem with the random button is that I do it at the very beginning to give my team a chance to pick around me (at least somewhat) but what really ends up happening is 5 cruel and unusual counterpicks from the opponents and allies who actively ensure the worst lanes in history with their picks

Carries not carrying is par for the course, even if I pick carry (rofl my ricing is baaaaaad).
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
December 12 2012 17:30 GMT
#33037
I generally go through phases of playing one hero over and over. Recently I've been switching from Lina, Venge and Rubick, getting my hard support on. I used to play Venge when I was just starting out and failed a lot with her but now that I have a semblance of skill she is soooo much fun, swap is just ridiculous. If I am feeling down or just want to win I go to Brew, Invoker or Wind.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 17:40:32
December 12 2012 17:37 GMT
#33038
So I decided to queue with my EU friend, who queued for EU East (I had 150-200 ping, something I'm not used to at ALL). I hadn't played my invoker in 1-2 months or so, so I figured i'd give it a go.

I laned against a mid Panda, not really giving it a second thought.

This was the result
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+ Show Spoiler +
I checked his stream, it was indeed a puppey, shocksha, funzi stack.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
December 12 2012 17:42 GMT
#33039
NA ladder <<<< Eu Ladder all over again
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
December 12 2012 17:55 GMT
#33040
On December 13 2012 02:42 Qbek wrote:
NA ladder <<<< Eu Ladder all over again


it doesnt, most good players q for both anyways. since the ping is like 40vs140 not bad at all. however sea ping is around 350ms which is a little too high for me.
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