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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On December 13 2012 01:22 Sn0_Man wrote: I kinda wish you could see stats "by percentile". Actually just by decile, but that term is not used very much. AKA "the top 10% of players win with drow 70% of the time, but the next 10% are only at 65% winrate..." etc etc. Because I feel like the hero is too good, but still addressable in game, and I'm curious to know at what skill level is she too easy to crush with vs at what skill level is she too easy to gank or w/e. From playing on noob to very high account games this past patch (I have some very bad friends just getting into it) Drow is really strong at low levels and low-mid and high-veryhigh levels, less so in the mid-level games (but once people learn they need to turn the aura on it gets really hard). Jakiro follows the same pattern as drow. Centaur is strongest at low levels and gets worse the higher the skill level of the game. Which isn't to say he's useless at high levels of play, just that he's a good pubstomper and I would 100% of the time rather face centaur than drow. edit - Also, SEA servers have the worst ping but I think the highest skill level. EU ladder is easier than NA for me because there are more players on the EU ladder. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On December 13 2012 03:11 Slardar wrote: Yeah EU + NA is pretty even.....I give the edge to EU by a bit though. Usually the ping is acceptable on both, but then there is the odd time you get +250 ping on EU and its unplayable. Well, if its common to play stacks of pros on EU, than I will give the advantage to them as well  | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On December 13 2012 03:48 Nevuk wrote: What are the odds that we get no update this week and instead valve spends their time reviewing their little contest? the odds are 14:1 | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On December 13 2012 03:48 Nevuk wrote: What are the odds that we get no update this week and instead valve spends their time reviewing their little contest? There will be an update, but it won't include a hero. | ||
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Elenar
Sweden137 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On December 13 2012 04:28 Elenar wrote: Can someone please explain how dota 2 mmr works. How do you get to play better players, exept playing better? It works exactly like any other MMR system by trying to match you with players around your skill level. There is no trickery involved with this system. You play better players by playing better. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34505 Posts
On December 13 2012 04:28 Elenar wrote: Can someone please explain how dota 2 mmr works. How do you get to play better players, exept playing better? You win, you gain MMR, you play against better players. You lose, you lose MMR, you play against less good players. If you play against people much better than you and win, you gain a lot of MMR. If you play against people of a lower level than you and win, you gain less MMR. Vice versa for losing. | ||
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Elenar
Sweden137 Posts
On December 13 2012 04:30 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: It works exactly like any other MMR system by trying to match you with players around your skill level. There is no trickery involved with this system. You play better players by playing better. Well if I play support and go like 2-8-25 enigma every game compared to 25-0-0 drow, how do you max your MMR qucickest? | ||
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Maindi
Finland104 Posts
On December 13 2012 04:33 Elenar wrote: Well if I play support and go like 2-8-25 enigma every game compared to 25-0-0 drow, how do you max your MMR qucickest? Your stats have no effect on your MMR, only wins and losses do. So if you want to 'max MMR', try to play your hardest to win every game. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On December 13 2012 04:33 Elenar wrote: Well if I play support and go like 2-8-25 enigma every game compared to 25-0-0 drow, how do you max your MMR qucickest? You maximize your MMR the quickest by not caring about it. Just play the best you can and you will naturally reach whatever level you should be at. MMR systems are designed to work over the long term. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Don't forget, being matched WITH good players goes hand in hand with being matched AGAINST good players. Valve doesn't promise anything about your teammates skill level, just that every game the teams should go into it with something like equal chances at victory. If you waited 5+ minutes in queue then your game may end up very unbalanced  | ||
TheEmulator
28102 Posts
edit: If you don't know anyone that plays Dota 2, try to ask in the TeamLiquid channel in-game. I see people asking for games all the time, and from each bracket as well. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34505 Posts
On December 13 2012 05:01 Sn0_Man wrote: Just about the only way to "artificially" raise your MMR is to play overpowered heroes and/or heroes you are very good at (for your skill tier). That way, you will be playing at a higher level than your mmr and you *should* win enough games to move up. Careful though, because if you go back to playing stuff you are less pro at, you will be against very good players. Pretty sure I Invoker'd my way up to Very High and now I lose everything when I don't play him. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
That is, while your real MMRs won't change, you will be matched against better players (or other premade groups of similar sizes and skills). That is part of how Valve attempts to get groups fair matches. So if your goal is to have good opponents, then group with allies, preferably a lot of them. Also, your "team" mmr is heavily skewed towards the best player on it. If you can find a really good player to queue with your lower MMR (compared to your ally) shouldn't drag you down that much in terms of opponents. | ||
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TheEmulator
28102 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On December 13 2012 05:14 TheEmulator wrote: Well, Invoker is a pretty tough hero, so I am sure with minimal work you can match your skill with other heroes, to your skill with invoker. I dunno, there is something special about heavy-invoker players. I have a friend who is like this as well. I mean, have you seen CatZ try to play other heroes? His invoker is pretty good really, but most everything else is... hard to watch. Half the time I feel like those guys are playing something like DDR instead of Dota 2 XD. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
For instance, if I maintain a positive ratio, do I still receive the same MMR "score" as the 1-12 Huskarr? | ||
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