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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 10 2012 13:24 GMT
#32581
Enchantress is actually quite popular in 1v1 solo mid competitions is she not?
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Fullback
Profile Joined January 2012
Argentina170 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 13:30:55
December 10 2012 13:30 GMT
#32582
On December 10 2012 22:24 Kipsate wrote:
Enchantress is actually quite popular in 1v1 solo mid competitions is she not?


Oh yes, i still remember that ench vs viper match from 2009 solo mid tournament. That viper was her bitch. (but then ench got destroyed by od )
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 13:33:40
December 10 2012 13:32 GMT
#32583
Lately I have been having some PotM obsession, but I've lost all my games with her except a few (but that is another story). Now I can't really play any other hero, nothing is as fun as that Arrow. What can I do to get over it?

On December 10 2012 22:30 Fullback wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 22:24 Kipsate wrote:
Enchantress is actually quite popular in 1v1 solo mid competitions is she not?


Oh yes, i still remember that ench vs viper match from 2009 solo mid tournament. That viper was her bitch. (but then ench got destroyed by od )


Doesn't OD destroy anyone 1v1? Imprison when creeps are a hit away from dying -> bye bye xp.
Fullback
Profile Joined January 2012
Argentina170 Posts
December 10 2012 13:35 GMT
#32584
On December 10 2012 22:32 akatama wrote:


Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 22:30 Fullback wrote:
On December 10 2012 22:24 Kipsate wrote:
Enchantress is actually quite popular in 1v1 solo mid competitions is she not?


Oh yes, i still remember that ench vs viper match from 2009 solo mid tournament. That viper was her bitch. (but then ench got destroyed by od )


Doesn't OD destroy anyone 1v1? Imprison when creeps are a hit away from dying -> bye bye xp.


Well yes, but thats specially true against other INT heroes. Also, does imprison really prevent the target hero from gaining exp?
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 13:38:12
December 10 2012 13:37 GMT
#32585
IIRC.
If you deny the uni while they're in prison, they get no exp.
If the unit dies normally, they do get exp.

Or something like that, i'm not entirely sure.

Also enchantress wrecks most mids in pubs, the two times i went mid with her i dominated the games so hard with Aghs MoM midas ench, haha.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
December 10 2012 13:38 GMT
#32586
No, they still gain experience as normal. Astral Imprisonment used to stop the imprisoned target from gaining XP, but that was changed.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 10 2012 13:40 GMT
#32587
OD might lose to Broodmother maybe?
WriterXiao8~~
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
December 10 2012 13:43 GMT
#32588
On December 10 2012 22:38 flamewheel wrote:
No, they still gain experience as normal. Astral Imprisonment used to stop the imprisoned target from gaining XP, but that was changed.

They don't gain xp when creeps are denied.

But it is bugged in dota 2
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=65110
Fullback
Profile Joined January 2012
Argentina170 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 13:49:43
December 10 2012 13:44 GMT
#32589
On December 10 2012 22:40 Kipsate wrote:
OD might lose to Broodmother maybe?


OD struggles quite a bit against Lone Druid too. (well, not really struggling, more like "finds a worthy opponent in")
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
December 10 2012 14:21 GMT
#32590
How do you skill for Enchantress mid? And what do you build?
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Fullback
Profile Joined January 2012
Argentina170 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 14:58:37
December 10 2012 14:30 GMT
#32591
On December 10 2012 23:21 Gosi wrote:
How do you skill for Enchantress mid? And what do you build?


Max untouchable and Natures attendants so that the other solo mid cant trade blows with you (you should try to win the lane by outharassing your opponent), once you hit level 6 its checkmate, your opponent wont even be able to stand in the lane against you . You should try to get as many bracers (or/and a cloak) as you can if youre against a hero that relies on bursting you down to win (lina, lion, bane). Your boots of choice should be phase boots or PT if you really need that +8 str. If for some reason the game drags for long enough get hood or aghanims.

Oh, you can skip untouchable for points into stats if youre against a heavy nuker i guess.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 10 2012 15:01 GMT
#32592
On December 10 2012 22:44 Fullback wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 22:40 Kipsate wrote:
OD might lose to Broodmother maybe?


OD struggles quite a bit against Lone Druid too. (well, not really struggling, more like "finds a worthy opponent in")


Had a game once as lonedruid vs OD on the safelane, and he stole enough int so I didn't have enough mana max to summon my bear. -_-
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Windwaker
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany1597 Posts
December 10 2012 15:05 GMT
#32593
On December 11 2012 00:01 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 22:44 Fullback wrote:
On December 10 2012 22:40 Kipsate wrote:
OD might lose to Broodmother maybe?


OD struggles quite a bit against Lone Druid too. (well, not really struggling, more like "finds a worthy opponent in")


Had a game once as lonedruid vs OD on the safelane, and he stole enough int so I didn't have enough mana max to summon my bear. -_-

nyx is a good counter
hes happy when od steals the int.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 15:07:49
December 10 2012 15:07 GMT
#32594
On December 11 2012 00:05 Windwaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 00:01 Noocta wrote:
On December 10 2012 22:44 Fullback wrote:
On December 10 2012 22:40 Kipsate wrote:
OD might lose to Broodmother maybe?


OD struggles quite a bit against Lone Druid too. (well, not really struggling, more like "finds a worthy opponent in")


Had a game once as lonedruid vs OD on the safelane, and he stole enough int so I didn't have enough mana max to summon my bear. -_-

nyx is a good counter
hes happy when od steals the int.

OD can reduce nyx to the point where he can't cast mana burn at all though. So even if nyx were to get off one mana burn, OD will still be fine as long as he keeps the mana stealing up.
So i really wouldn't call it a 'counter' in the laning phase.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Fullback
Profile Joined January 2012
Argentina170 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 15:16:06
December 10 2012 15:13 GMT
#32595
On December 11 2012 00:01 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 22:44 Fullback wrote:
On December 10 2012 22:40 Kipsate wrote:
OD might lose to Broodmother maybe?


OD struggles quite a bit against Lone Druid too. (well, not really struggling, more like "finds a worthy opponent in")


Had a game once as lonedruid vs OD on the safelane, and he stole enough int so I didn't have enough mana max to summon my bear. -_-


Well, since OD cant steal INT beyond your base value, a 150 gold investment on a mantle of intelligence, coupled with three branches (which should be in your starting build) will give you a grand total of 6 int which equals 78 mana (13 mana per point in int), which is enough to summon your bear (75). If you need more resummons and you find yourself not regening enough mana back you could always buy a clarity potion. (but still... you could just avoid getting astrald or wait for the debuff to run out in the first place)
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 10 2012 15:13 GMT
#32596
Leveling manaburn on Nyx early is pretyy bad too now. The way it work make it better at later stage of the game. His other spell are just better early
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
N1k0
Profile Joined June 2011
Uruguay1075 Posts
December 10 2012 15:19 GMT
#32597
New silencer trashes OD
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 10 2012 15:30 GMT
#32598
On December 11 2012 00:19 N1k0 wrote:
New silencer trashes OD


Can you dodge Last Word by Astral Imprisoning yourself? (as in, if last word is already on you, at least avoid the damage?).
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
December 10 2012 15:36 GMT
#32599
I believe the damage comes in before the cast.
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
December 10 2012 15:37 GMT
#32600
Last Word activates before astral, same with sd. But OD still shit on him, all he needs is tranq
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