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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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rwrzr
United States1980 Posts
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Implenia
Austria3846 Posts
On December 03 2012 10:16 rwrzr wrote: Do russians enjoy playing with other russians? As much as Americans like to play with Americans ... | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On December 03 2012 10:37 Implenia wrote: As much as Americans like to play with Americans ... so thats a no then. | ||
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Implenia
Austria3846 Posts
Dumb question, dumb answer. | ||
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rwrzr
United States1980 Posts
Sorry I play on USE/USW and sometimes Asia. I really have no idea about the EU dynamics. | ||
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Bswhunter
Australia954 Posts
I went treads into diffusal, then tried to get a bkb. The problem is, that while I could gank extremely well due to diffusal, I felt rather useless in teamfights. I would sit around, chuck a pounce and a smokebomb on someone and then get stunned and bursted down. Then by the time I got a bkb, I was underfarmed. I felt like I didn't gank enoough, and spent too much time farming. Is it possible to gank before diffusal? | ||
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Greyhawk
Australia110 Posts
On December 03 2012 10:51 Bswhunter wrote: Guys. I played a game as Riki a while back and did pretty well (something like 12/6/6), but still lost. I went treads into diffusal, then tried to get a bkb. The problem is, that while I could gank extremely well due to diffusal, I felt rather useless in teamfights. I would sit around, chuck a pounce and a smokebomb on someone and then get stunned and bursted down. Then by the time I got a bkb, I was underfarmed. I felt like I didn't gank enoough, and spent too much time farming. Is it possible to gank before diffusal? As a rikimaru, you should be capitalising on your early-midgame advantage once you hit lvl 6/7. backstab is really strong even without the purge from diffusal blade. Remember that you DO have teammates that can lock down opposing heroes for you to rightclick down. It's a team game. | ||
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
Had someone raging at me for using 'ss' instead of 'ms'. Then had an enemy PA (who was in a stack) raging at us for pausing so teammate could reconnect. Quotes include: "Why bother, you're all so bad" (we were positive in kills, down a few towers though) "We win already" etc etc Then we teamwiped them about 20 seconds after but lacked pushing power. Right at the end of the match I managed to kite enough creeps to our fountain from ancient to kill my teams Silencer in only a few seconds, haha. | ||
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rwrzr
United States1980 Posts
On December 03 2012 11:06 Greyhawk wrote: As a rikimaru, you should be capitalising on your early-midgame advantage once you hit lvl 6/7. backstab is really strong even without the purge from diffusal blade. Remember that you DO have teammates that can lock down opposing heroes for you to rightclick down. It's a team game. The idea of smoke bomb isn't just that it slow it also silences and has miss chance. Use it as area denial and drop it in the path of enemies coming to assist. Example: If your team engages on a person you can drop a cloud in between your teams target and the rest of the enemy team. | ||
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duoform
Spain5180 Posts
Wow... | ||
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red_b
United States1267 Posts
I think you all know that feeling. I wish casters knew more about dota so all the limelight didn't go to carries on pro teams because honestly people just take it as an excuse to never play anything else. | ||
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Appendix
Sweden979 Posts
On December 03 2012 15:16 red_b wrote: so you know when you play with your friends and you get a new guy and you ask what his role is? and how he always answers carry? and how he always blows at it? I think you all know that feeling. I wish casters knew more about dota so all the limelight didn't go to carries on pro teams because honestly people just take it as an excuse to never play anything else. 5 carry dota has been around since long before Dota 2, it is not because of the casters. I'd say it has to do with it being far easier to win by more farm rather than better decision making when you're new. Also, it's probably more appealing thinking you win because you kill everything rather than having someone else do it. | ||
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Tsutchie
Australia951 Posts
On December 03 2012 15:16 red_b wrote: so you know when you play with your friends and you get a new guy and you ask what his role is? and how he always answers carry? and how he always blows at it? I think you all know that feeling. I wish casters knew more about dota so all the limelight didn't go to carries on pro teams because honestly people just take it as an excuse to never play anything else. here's the thing about playing a carry. they win: "cus I'm pro" they lose: "cus support suck" playing support you win: had nothing to do with u, carry did it all you lose: u suck | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
 But support sucks 'cus less farm => later MoM => winning later. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10940 Posts
If they are decent, you are a fine support. If they are not you still got some punch and can have some fun  .Thing is, you don't need any farm to be pretty dangerous while always looking cool and having the best soundset there is ("wait for it, waaaaait for it" :D)... The true "Top"-Supports often only work if your team actually is good or your screwed because you lack any kind of punch, WD can still do something even if his team is pretty "meh" ^^. Or just pick Jakiro because he is ridiculous anyway. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
So, my solution for myself? Make smurf and play PA/Void/Drow all day. I feel like my life is balanced now :DDDD Those 'beyond godlike' are the sweetest candy i ever had!! | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On December 03 2012 20:40 BurningSera wrote: I simply can't be arsed to play support anymore unless I know the guy is worthy to be supported. That sounds generic like some excuse coming from shitty player but a quick fact is that I have played 80% of my 2k games as hardlaner or support (i am the dude with near 70% winrate as CM). So, my solution for myself? Make smurf and play PA/Void/Drow all day. I feel like my life is balanced now :DDDD Those 'beyond godlike' are the sweetest candy i ever had!! Just play veno / SD / thd / WD as the other guy said, supports which can take farm if their team sucks isnt bad at all | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On December 03 2012 20:45 Iplaythings wrote: Just play veno / SD / thd / WD as the other guy said, supports which can take farm if their team sucks isnt bad at all The better option is actually to play a semi or hardcarry on hardlane fully expecting that the safelane carry will fail and pray that your mid is not feeding -> make midas asap (usually around 8/9mins) and proceed to gank/farm and then make 700gpm at 35+ mins -> ended the game with the oppo team saying 'ggwp (insert your hero name)'. Buy flying courier and at least 1 set of ward is standard when i play carry nowadays (and i will commend anyone who did any basic support job). | ||
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