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Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
December 02 2012 21:35 GMT
#31661
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
December 02 2012 21:37 GMT
#31662
Pretty sure the courier counts as an ancient and can't be infested
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
December 02 2012 21:42 GMT
#31663
On December 03 2012 06:10 Implenia wrote:
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On December 03 2012 06:07 Talron wrote:
On another completely unrelated note: I'm teaching some of my buddies, who are completely new to the DotA-genre, how to play the game for the past few weeks and I have to say it's tons of fun teaching people!

I agree while it is really rewarding it can be very stressful at times. One of my friends played as courier for 3 minutes till he understood how to switch back to his hero.

Singsing stream with 2gd is already funny but with puppey and waga it's even better.

The stressful part is when you begin to play regular pubs against other players, instead of playing vs bots, where they get to learn their handful of heroes they like. The dilemma I am currently in is quite weird as well: Should I queue with them on my main account, where they'll simply get facerolled and eventually end up having on fun playing - On a sidenote: all this playing vs. bots ended up, in me being out of shape as well, so me carrying the game is even more unlikely than it is anyway, since I am nothing more but just a good player and no outstanding supertalent as well.
Or should I create a smurf account for the sake of teaching them in proper conditions, but will destroy the gaming expirience of my enemies, who will most likely be unexpirienced players as well. A coaching type of way is kinda hard as well, since there's the DotaTV 2 min delay and organizing lobbygames is very troublesome - so I kinda have to be in the same game as them. So far I've also watched DHW last weekend with them and commentated for them via voicechat and explained as much as possible and tried answering every question they had.
Well I can just repeat myself: teaching people DotA is a hell lot of fun!
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
December 02 2012 21:45 GMT
#31664
Why do everything for Sing is easy...?
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 21:54:06
December 02 2012 21:53 GMT
#31665
On December 03 2012 06:35 Dattish wrote:
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On December 03 2012 06:33 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On December 03 2012 06:14 Dattish wrote:
I remember a post on reddit early in the beta. It was about a guy who brought his courier to lane and was wondering how you could mount the donkey.

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not like that you sick fuck

What if he's playing Naix?

you can infest the courier?! I could pretend to be some kinda commando Rambo in 'nam dropping in and murdering people and hearing the lamentation of their women.

Nah, it was a joke about the spoilered part of your post. That's the image a lot of people seem to have about infest :p
you gotta dance
Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
December 02 2012 21:59 GMT
#31666
On December 03 2012 06:42 Talron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 06:10 Implenia wrote:
On December 03 2012 06:07 Talron wrote:
On another completely unrelated note: I'm teaching some of my buddies, who are completely new to the DotA-genre, how to play the game for the past few weeks and I have to say it's tons of fun teaching people!

I agree while it is really rewarding it can be very stressful at times. One of my friends played as courier for 3 minutes till he understood how to switch back to his hero.

Singsing stream with 2gd is already funny but with puppey and waga it's even better.

The stressful part is when you begin to play regular pubs against other players, instead of playing vs bots, where they get to learn their handful of heroes they like. The dilemma I am currently in is quite weird as well: Should I queue with them on my main account, where they'll simply get facerolled and eventually end up having on fun playing - On a sidenote: all this playing vs. bots ended up, in me being out of shape as well, so me carrying the game is even more unlikely than it is anyway, since I am nothing more but just a good player and no outstanding supertalent as well.
Or should I create a smurf account for the sake of teaching them in proper conditions, but will destroy the gaming expirience of my enemies, who will most likely be unexpirienced players as well. A coaching type of way is kinda hard as well, since there's the DotaTV 2 min delay and organizing lobbygames is very troublesome - so I kinda have to be in the same game as them. So far I've also watched DHW last weekend with them and commentated for them via voicechat and explained as much as possible and tried answering every question they had.
Well I can just repeat myself: teaching people DotA is a hell lot of fun!

Well maybe the best thing would be if you could get 10 people together so you could play a practice match that you could watch and where winning / lossing isn't punished as hard as in pub game. Plus you would have no delay and you could coach them. I would be up for it and I'm sure we can find a few other people in the teamliquid channel or elsewhere that would be willing to help out.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
December 02 2012 22:09 GMT
#31667
So I wanna make some new friends (hopefully decent players as well), so I want to give away chests to anyone who adds me.

steamid = trinxified
tpmraven
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States833 Posts
December 02 2012 22:24 GMT
#31668
Yall to smart for my trollin. Was it the caps that gave it away?

I Somehow got invited into a 4 stack of brazilian/South Americans after a win.

They are still on my friends list and i think i play with them more then anyone else, they have little flags next to thier names and shit, makes people rage SO HARD. I have never noticed a "Skill gap" between russians/brazilians. What i have noticed is a tendency to go MAN MODE all the time. Makes for fun games IMHO.
(⌐■_■) Like a boss
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
December 02 2012 22:55 GMT
#31669
On December 03 2012 06:35 Dattish wrote:
you can infest the courier?! I could pretend to be some kinda commando Rambo in 'nam dropping in and murdering people and hearing the lamentation of their women.


Oh gods that would be amazing. Speed boost courier and bomb in.
Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 23:06:37
December 02 2012 23:05 GMT
#31670
On December 03 2012 07:55 ReignSupreme. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 06:35 Dattish wrote:
you can infest the courier?! I could pretend to be some kinda commando Rambo in 'nam dropping in and murdering people and hearing the lamentation of their women.


Oh gods that would be amazing. Speed boost courier and bomb in.

Courier should be able to carry up to 7 heros. 6 in the slots and lifestealer with infest. This would make dota 2 more exciting and bring SEA dota to the next level.

Edit: just realised that there are only 5 heros on a team. Well other slots are used for oxygen or some shit.

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Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
December 02 2012 23:05 GMT
#31671
On December 03 2012 07:55 ReignSupreme. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 06:35 Dattish wrote:
you can infest the courier?! I could pretend to be some kinda commando Rambo in 'nam dropping in and murdering people and hearing the lamentation of their women.


Oh gods that would be amazing. Speed boost courier and bomb in.

Surged beastmaster hawk.
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
December 02 2012 23:08 GMT
#31672
On December 03 2012 05:38 dfs wrote:
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On December 03 2012 05:12 r.Evo wrote:
On December 03 2012 04:51 CustomKal wrote:
On December 03 2012 04:40 The Irate Turk wrote:
On December 02 2012 20:35 Implenia wrote:
On December 02 2012 20:33 The Irate Turk wrote:
The fact that they would join a game on European servers and speak in Russian when they have their personal Russian servers betrays a lot about them to begin with.

It's like me going to JFK airport and speaking Russian to the guy at the immigration desk and expecting shit to go my way

You realise that there are European countries that have Russian as official language? There is no rule saying that you have to speak English on the EU servers. People like you make me sick with their xenophobe talk.
Yes. Valve recognised this large demand by giving Russian speaking players their own Russian server? I don't go on the Russian server and speak English, and I expect the same courtesy.

Ideally, you should be able to check what languages you want to play in so that you don't ever get paired with people you can't communicate with.


lol if you're going to use that logic, you should go play on the US east servers, since they speak english there right? The Russian serve is located in RUSSIA. You know, a distance away from some of those europian countries with russia as their official language. Just becuase you speak it, doesn't mean you live close to it. People are going to pick whatever server has the best ping. The europian server is host to a lot of different languages who get their best ping there. If you can't deal with it, take the hit on ping and play on the US servers where there are a lot less of them.

The Russian server is in the middle of Stockholm. To be more precise Russians most likely have the same ping to the Russian server as to the EU East/West Server.

PS: The actual communication that's needed for pub games isn't much more than "ss", "go", "b". The most advanced stuff you need is around the lines of "need wards", "coming top" and, at the highest level of professional pubplay only: "smoke here". If you aren't able to communicate/understand that kind of stuff in foreign languages you're kind of screwed.

PPS: Speaking of which, can someone translate the above into (non-cyrillic) russian for me? Some kind of "me no rus" on top of that and I shall fieldtest my communication skills on foreign territory!


buy wards = kupite wardi
go = poshli
together = vmeste
courier = kura
all/everybody = vse
b = nazad (kajdiy sam za sebya poconi)

I'm gonna try that and hopefully I come across as cute as possible trying to do so, thanks. <3
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 23:13:12
December 02 2012 23:13 GMT
#31673
Anyone knows if the 4pl cup gets casted? http://4pl.4players.de/index.php/de/Cup:cuptree/3378/4/Turnierbaum-von-Play4DotA2__201216_by_Sennheiser.html

I think the biggest non-CIS cup so far. 141 teams played in it. Yay dota 2 growing. Also the semi finals are:

is RATR vs [image loading] fota

[image loading] Lions Pride vs [image loading] Virtus Pro
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
December 02 2012 23:16 GMT
#31674
On December 03 2012 08:05 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 07:55 ReignSupreme. wrote:
On December 03 2012 06:35 Dattish wrote:
you can infest the courier?! I could pretend to be some kinda commando Rambo in 'nam dropping in and murdering people and hearing the lamentation of their women.


Oh gods that would be amazing. Speed boost courier and bomb in.

Surged beastmaster hawk.


might try that someday

Only downside is 3 melee
ffxiv enjoyer
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 02 2012 23:24 GMT
#31675
Not really a downside. Naix safe lane/jungle. BM mid/off and DS mid/off/jungle. Actual real stronk!
.AK
Profile Joined September 2010
United States561 Posts
December 02 2012 23:32 GMT
#31676
God damnit I have been watching too much Merlini. Every game I now feel the urge to buy BoTs.... problem is that I main hard support qq.
All hail the glorious I sell T.Vs at Best Buy || #1 REQUIZEN FANBOI || IGN: .AK/BEST ANTIMAGE NA || Plat IV ADC Main
Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
December 02 2012 23:48 GMT
#31677
On December 03 2012 08:32 .AK wrote:
God damnit I have been watching too much Merlini. Every game I now feel the urge to buy BoTs.... problem is that I main hard support qq.

I was like "yeah he does buy it quite often" so I checked his history and...


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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
December 02 2012 23:57 GMT
#31678
^wow
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 00:17:23
December 03 2012 00:06 GMT
#31679
I wish I could just casually buy BoT like Merlini does. Its so convenient. Rather than having to run to a side shop, or wait for the cour to bring one to you.
Skol
The Irate Turk
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
285 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 00:33:15
December 03 2012 00:31 GMT
#31680
On December 03 2012 04:57 Unleashing wrote:
Courtesy? What kind of bullshit is that?
European servers aren't english only. Should i start complaining when people speak german/swedish/french and the likes in european servers? Because you're doing the exact same thing, complaining about people that are most likely european and using a european server because you, know, they are fucking european.

What about if a person from any other european country wants to Q but doesn't speak english? I've met germans that could not speak english at all, does this suddenly mean that they can't play on the european servers or what?

Quit the xenophobia.

No, because there aren't any servers specifically catering towards Germans/ Swedish/ French. If there was a German server and people were all like JA DAS IST GOOT on the non German server then I would have the same gripe.

On December 03 2012 05:12 r.Evo wrote:
The Russian server is in the middle of Stockholm. To be more precise Russians most likely have the same ping to the Russian server as to the EU East/West Server.

PS: The actual communication that's needed for pub games isn't much more than "ss", "go", "b". The most advanced stuff you need is around the lines of "need wards", "coming top" and, at the highest level of professional pubplay only: "smoke here". If you aren't able to communicate/understand that kind of stuff in foreign languages you're kind of screwed.

PPS: Speaking of which, can someone translate the above into (non-cyrillic) russian for me? Some kind of "me no rus" on top of that and I shall fieldtest my communication skills on foreign territory!

I do not think it is valid to spam the EU server with Russian just because you have a better ping to the EU server, given the existence of the Russian server. Besides, there are so many offenders that, statistically speaking, I would be very surprised that we are all running into the same five ex-pat Russians who live in London but speak no language other than their native tongue.

In answer to your second point; maybe a group of co-ordinated and like minded people could get by without anything more than SS/ G/ B but it would be horrible to play public dota and to not be able to communicate in a more meaningful manner. Sometimes people want a longer term plan than "B". Sometimes you see your team mate place a ward somewhere that your own existing ward already covers and want to let them know that. Other people can point out my mistakes and I will try to learn from them.

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