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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
December 01 2012 11:02 GMT
#31461
When you random and go mid, you go the same bottle rush build but instead of 4 branches + tango, you go 4 +3 stats items and tangoes
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LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
December 01 2012 11:05 GMT
#31462
190 gold is a very small investment to make sure you laning goes well. If you have extra tangos/salves it means you can be more aggressive trade a couple more hits for "free".
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 11:11:48
December 01 2012 11:07 GMT
#31463
Yeah, it's a vast oversimplification to say "you're playing bad if you need more than 1 salve before you have your Bottle. It depends on the item starts of both sides, as well as the matchup.

Also, who even goes Gauntlet starts anymore? Gauntlet starts are more or less a relic of when people didn't realize yet how insanely efficient Stout Shield is for melees at low levels. The only hero that seems remotely sensible to start Gauntlets on is Huskar, because he's the strange exceptional case of a ranged Strength hero (solo lane Wisp would probably rather use Branches->fast Bottle start than Gauntlets).

Admittedly, I don't know what Phoenix generally buys as starting items.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
December 01 2012 11:09 GMT
#31464
It's actually never a bad idea to have tangoes. Those juicy tree jukes :D
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
December 01 2012 11:28 GMT
#31465
the best use of random gold on a melee hero is always boots orb of venom, you can even grab a tango in .76

When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 01 2012 11:42 GMT
#31466
On December 01 2012 20:28 Kupon3ss wrote:
the best use of random gold on a melee hero is always boots orb of venom, you can even grab a tango in .76


Nah, on a melee gotta go 3xStout Shield + Tangoes.
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LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 11:49:03
December 01 2012 11:48 GMT
#31467
That build is clearly outclassed by a 3 x OoV build. Doesn't even have to be a melee hero.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
December 01 2012 11:50 GMT
#31468
On December 01 2012 20:48 LAN-f34r wrote:
That build is clearly outclassed by a 3 x OoV build. Doesn't even have to be a melee hero.

I believe they don't stack. Just sayin', plz continue
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
December 01 2012 12:04 GMT
#31469
You all selfish players. I am a team player so sometimes when i randomed i go for courier+fly courier+sentry+ward+GG branch.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
December 01 2012 12:05 GMT
#31470
On December 01 2012 21:04 BurningSera wrote:
You all selfish players. I am a team player so sometimes when i randomed i go for courier+fly courier+sentry+ward+GG branch.

Noob detected, no smoke of deceit
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Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
December 01 2012 12:05 GMT
#31471
--- Nuked ---
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
December 01 2012 12:07 GMT
#31472
On December 01 2012 21:05 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 21:04 BurningSera wrote:
You all selfish players. I am a team player so sometimes when i randomed i go for courier+fly courier+sentry+ward+GG branch.

Noob detected, no smoke of deceit


pfff, clearly i go steal 2 creeps from my carry to get that smoke sending from my crow so i can smoke gank mid. I don't give a damn when the mid needed that crow for his bottle.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
December 01 2012 12:07 GMT
#31473
On December 01 2012 21:05 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 21:04 BurningSera wrote:
You all selfish players. I am a team player so sometimes when i randomed i go for courier+fly courier+sentry+ward+GG branch.

Noob detected, no smoke of deceit


ganking sux, babysit carry all day so he ends the fun at 3AM
ffxiv enjoyer
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
December 01 2012 12:09 GMT
#31474
On December 01 2012 21:07 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 21:05 Qbek wrote:
On December 01 2012 21:04 BurningSera wrote:
You all selfish players. I am a team player so sometimes when i randomed i go for courier+fly courier+sentry+ward+GG branch.

Noob detected, no smoke of deceit


pfff, clearly i go steal 2 creeps from my carry to get that smoke sending from my crow so i can smoke gank mid. I don't give a damn when the mid needed that crow for his bottle.

As I said, noob, that's how you get your second smoke
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
December 01 2012 12:36 GMT
#31475
On December 01 2012 21:09 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 21:07 BurningSera wrote:
On December 01 2012 21:05 Qbek wrote:
On December 01 2012 21:04 BurningSera wrote:
You all selfish players. I am a team player so sometimes when i randomed i go for courier+fly courier+sentry+ward+GG branch.

Noob detected, no smoke of deceit


pfff, clearly i go steal 2 creeps from my carry to get that smoke sending from my crow so i can smoke gank mid. I don't give a damn when the mid needed that crow for his bottle.

As I said, noob, that's how you get your second smoke


pfff my ganking timing is at professional, one smoke is enough for the first 3mins in game!
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
December 01 2012 12:38 GMT
#31476
On December 01 2012 21:36 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 21:09 Qbek wrote:
On December 01 2012 21:07 BurningSera wrote:
On December 01 2012 21:05 Qbek wrote:
On December 01 2012 21:04 BurningSera wrote:
You all selfish players. I am a team player so sometimes when i randomed i go for courier+fly courier+sentry+ward+GG branch.

Noob detected, no smoke of deceit


pfff, clearly i go steal 2 creeps from my carry to get that smoke sending from my crow so i can smoke gank mid. I don't give a damn when the mid needed that crow for his bottle.

As I said, noob, that's how you get your second smoke


pfff my ganking timing is at professional, one smoke is enough for the first 3mins in game!

Pfff wannabe pro, you get smoke ASAP to make the most out of the restock times.
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
December 01 2012 12:43 GMT
#31477
gauntlets own on wisp
also ns and puj can do it, depends on the lane tho
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
December 01 2012 12:46 GMT
#31478
lol i have a bad habit where i start with zero regen all the time when i go mid
usually it works out but other times i get fb'd by slark
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
December 01 2012 12:49 GMT
#31479
On December 01 2012 21:46 Dead9 wrote:
lol i have a bad habit where i start with zero regen all the time when i go mid
usually it works out but other times i get fb'd by slark

A good mid player will see your items and fuck you up, watch out
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
December 01 2012 12:56 GMT
#31480
it's been working out since i don't think i've midded against a good player yet
or at least as far as i can remember
my mmr is too low or something
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