EPTOn December 01 2012 20:42 TheYango wrote:
Nah, on a melee gotta go 3xStout Shield + Tangoes.
Nah, on a melee gotta go 3xStout Shield + Tangoes.
tbh best use of random is boot first on support. You can never die ever during first 10mins.
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tbh best use of random is boot first on support. You can never die ever during first 10mins. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On December 01 2012 21:56 Erasme wrote: tbh best use of random is boot first on support. You can never die ever during first 10mins. Unless you're CM, coz then it becomes normal | ||
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igotmyown
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On December 01 2012 21:49 Qbek wrote: A good mid player will see your items and fuck you up, watch out I'm going to hide my healing in my trees next time to see if I can trick someone into overharassing. | ||
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Dattish
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Implenia
Austria3846 Posts
On December 01 2012 23:04 Dattish wrote: The suddenly, someone who was planning on ganking you takes a retarded path and steals all your regen. That would be a very awkward gank. I have seen Dendi a lot do that. Droping a few tangos in trees beside tower. | ||
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Ramong
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ChrisXIV
Austria3553 Posts
On December 01 2012 23:04 Dattish wrote: The suddenly, someone who was planning on ganking you takes a retarded path and steals all your regen. I saw something like that on CWM stream, where he was Pudge mid and put down his gauntlets for more efficient regen. A hasted SD ran in, cast Disruption and killed the gauntlets. | ||
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tube
United States1475 Posts
On December 01 2012 21:46 Dead9 wrote: lol i have a bad habit where i start with zero regen all the time when i go mid usually it works out but other times i get fb'd by slark i have a bad habit where i start with 6 sentry wards when i go mid | ||
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
On December 01 2012 22:12 Kipsate wrote: Boots offlane is #1 item. + you have enough for wards | ||
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SirMilford
Australia1269 Posts
On December 01 2012 20:07 TheYango wrote: Yeah, it's a vast oversimplification to say "you're playing bad if you need more than 1 salve before you have your Bottle. It depends on the item starts of both sides, as well as the matchup. Also, who even goes Gauntlet starts anymore? Gauntlet starts are more or less a relic of when people didn't realize yet how insanely efficient Stout Shield is for melees at low levels. The only hero that seems remotely sensible to start Gauntlets on is Huskar, because he's the strange exceptional case of a ranged Strength hero (solo lane Wisp would probably rather use Branches->fast Bottle start than Gauntlets). Admittedly, I don't know what Phoenix generally buys as starting items. Agree except i would add kunkka into that list. If i random as Kunkka I always get 2 gauntlets. The extra damage can help to harass the enemies off lane that little bit faster. I usually play kunkka as a dick though and just run in with tidebringer to harass/last hit and run out of harass range. | ||
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ChrisXIV
Austria3553 Posts
She's been my go-to pubstomper for the longest time, long before the aura change. Long range agi carry left unattended stomps games? Groundbreaking. Orbwalkers have an edge against many heroes in lane? Groundbreaking. While I'm not good enough to really know if the aura is broken (which in my opinion it isn't, but it will probably get changed) I don't see why nearly everyone is complaining about her as if she was the old Lycan^2. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
60% slow on her orb. And yes her new aura IS broken, making regular ranged creeps stronger than mega-ranged creeps globally.. But this is only for pubs, i don't mind her the way she is, i don't care about her strength there, i want to see how she fares in competitive games before making a judgement, i believe her aura needs to not be global because of these kind of things being possible: | ||
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Angra
United States2652 Posts
On December 02 2012 00:48 ChrisXIV wrote: OK, the QQ about Drow is getting ridiculous (or rediculous if you're from Reddit) - it's like people have never seen her before and treat her like a completely new entity, something the likes of which has never been seen before. She's been my go-to pubstomper for the longest time, long before the aura change. Long range agi carry left unattended stomps games? Groundbreaking. Orbwalkers have an edge against many heroes in lane? Groundbreaking. While I'm not good enough to really know if the aura is broken (which in my opinion it isn't, but it will probably get changed) I don't see why nearly everyone is complaining about her as if she was the old Lycan^2. I haven't played much Dota lately since the buff to her, but I assume she's overpowered in pubs in the same way that Sniper is a lot better in pubs than in competitive games - people just ignore her, and let her farm up and do massive damage in teamfights, rather than attempt to shut down her farm and cc her in teamfights. Maybe she actually is OP, I don't really know, but I highly doubt she'd have as massive of a winrate in competitive games as she does in pubs atm. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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Denmark14978 Posts
Edit: But again, i really don't care about pub-winrates, just like i didn't see people complain about treant protector in pubs. They tend to complain about something that is clearly what loses them a game(In this case, drow). But treants win-rate used to be up there with what drow and centaur has now. | ||
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Dattish
Sweden6297 Posts
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SirMilford
Australia1269 Posts
On December 02 2012 00:40 Dattish wrote: are you one of those kunkkas that buys obs and wards the enemy highground mid just to harass them out of lane? + Show Spoiler + yes | ||
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