EPTOn November 22 2012 18:15 Erasme wrote:
no such thing exist, its common knowledge ..
no such thing exist, its common knowledge ..
Yeah, next he will claim that he saw a french person speaking english... MADNESS
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Velr
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Yeah, next he will claim that he saw a french person speaking english... MADNESS | ||
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Erasme
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SirMilford
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skirmisheR
Sweden451 Posts
On November 22 2012 18:46 SirMilford wrote: I am completely lost teamfighting with stormspirit earlygame. Does anyone have any advice? I feel like he doesn't have the instant burst like a QoP and is much better just splitpushing at that stage. But then its a 4v5 and my team will probably lose. QoP is a better teamfighter because of all the aoe, Storm spirit is very good at ganking though because of the chase potential. Sure you can split push but if they are going 5 man dota and you don't have the same teamfightpotential as they do, but then you should counterpush anyway (this does not just apply to storm). Storm spirit is pretty weak when enemies are clumping up, so you just have to gank and pick off sole opponents when you can (or tell your team so sacrifice a tower to get one of their towers and go 1-1 in towers instead of losing a teamfight and losing the tower). | ||
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pallad
Poland1958 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On November 22 2012 18:46 SirMilford wrote: I am completely lost teamfighting with stormspirit earlygame. Does anyone have any advice? I feel like he doesn't have the instant burst like a QoP and is much better just splitpushing at that stage. But then its a 4v5 and my team will probably lose. Storm is all about finding that opening. Early game you don't really have real "teamfights" there are more skirmishes eg. 2v2 or 3v2 etc. In these kind of fights it depends how you built storm and how you managed your mana. If you went for the 3 in pull then you want to use your long disable to setup kills for your allies and pick off targets. Zip in pull do some damage zip out. You do a lot of sustained damage but you also are very mobile so abuse that. It's all about knowing your limits of aggression so keep pushing them until you can't push anymore. Later on you should have your bkb and some kind of mana item if things are going well so you are an amazing initiator. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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Ramong
Denmark1706 Posts
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On November 22 2012 04:43 [17]Purple wrote: It's what people do when you always tell them to carry a TP scroll, they'll just eventually buy BoT's 'cause they don't have to listen to their team's 'advice'. Hmm...I wonder if we could turn this around? Start telling everyone on your team to buy BoT. Then they'll all buy TP scrolls? | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On November 23 2012 04:14 nojok wrote: How succesful is the key system to earn money to valve? To compare I think most of LoL money came from champions, as I've seen way more people having lots of champs rather than lots of skins. Besides once people will have play a ton of game they should be able to have at least some nice skins if they're interested just from trading. Lol are you seriously worried about valve finances? | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On November 23 2012 04:16 Qbek wrote: Lol are you seriously worried about valve finances? valve is going to make money from the cash shop, not selling keys. in any case there are an incredible amount of invites going around so i dunno why you need to buy em. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 23 2012 04:20 rabidch wrote: valve is going to make money from the cash shop, not selling keys. in any case there are an incredible amount of invites going around so i dunno why you need to buy em. I assume he means treasure keys, not beta keys. Regardless, the fact that keys right now are the de-facto trading currency speaks to how many of them must be in circulation. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
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nojok
France15846 Posts
On November 23 2012 04:48 TheYango wrote: I assume he means treasure keys, not beta keys. Regardless, the fact that keys right now are the de-facto trading currency speaks to how many of them must be in circulation. I'm not worried about valve finance & I indeed meant treasure keys. It's just pure curiosity. And also a bit greedy as the success of this model compared to LoL's one can define the next gen of this genre. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On November 23 2012 05:18 nojok wrote: I'm not worried about valve finance & I indeed meant treasure keys. It's just pure curiosity. And also a bit greedy as the success of this model compared to LoL's one can define the next gen of this genre. Valve has absolutely immensive success in TF2 where most people who trade don't even play the game. DotA2 has a way higher player base, like immensively bigger. Valve said themselves if they knew how much money they'd make on making TF2 f2p they'd have had it f2p from the beginning. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
New couriers, announcers and the likes will also be a constant source of money. And pennants(Once re-enabled) and tournament tickets will also be there. | ||
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[17]Purple
United Kingdom3489 Posts
On November 23 2012 05:18 nojok wrote: I'm not worried about valve finance & I indeed meant treasure keys. It's just pure curiosity. And also a bit greedy as the success of this model compared to LoL's one can define the next gen of this genre. Despite Valve's business model for TF2 and Dota 2 being insanely successful for them, I doubt any other company will be able to replicate the results Valve had to be sustainable. | ||
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Netherlands12045 Posts
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