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ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
November 23 2012 04:18 GMT
#30741
On November 23 2012 13:17 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 12:34 akatama wrote:
I have managed to pull the ancient camp to the mid lane as Radiant without doing any weird stuff (just the usual pull) by accident. I will investigate the timings tomorrow, but if it turns out to be true and you couple it with the other pull you can do on Radiant mid lane it might turn out gamebreaking. Pulling on mid is a huge deal due to it's volatile nature. Dire should be given equal chance, but most likely it means changing the behavior of creeps or the terrain.


I think it's because although you can pull it, you can't really farm it. If you pull the small and big camp, the dude that does the pulling can get some farm and level, but if you pull the ancient, the effect is gonna be the same (the creep wave got pulled), but you just can't get any farm.


What? That makes no sense.
secret - never again
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
November 23 2012 04:34 GMT
#30742
just out of curiosity what did nb say to get 90 days lmao
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
November 23 2012 04:42 GMT
#30743
On November 23 2012 13:34 FinestHour wrote:
just out of curiosity what did nb say to get 90 days lmao

go to his profile page on TL, and go to posts. The most recent one is his banned post.
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Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 04:44:49
November 23 2012 04:44 GMT
#30744
nvm
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
November 23 2012 04:49 GMT
#30745
You can say that he pulled an azarkon, cept he guessed correctly

Oh and 20 odd mod notes
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 23 2012 05:07 GMT
#30746
On November 23 2012 13:17 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 12:34 akatama wrote:
I have managed to pull the ancient camp to the mid lane as Radiant without doing any weird stuff (just the usual pull) by accident. I will investigate the timings tomorrow, but if it turns out to be true and you couple it with the other pull you can do on Radiant mid lane it might turn out gamebreaking. Pulling on mid is a huge deal due to it's volatile nature. Dire should be given equal chance, but most likely it means changing the behavior of creeps or the terrain.


I think it's because although you can pull it, you can't really farm it. If you pull the small and big camp, the dude that does the pulling can get some farm and level, but if you pull the ancient, the effect is gonna be the same (the creep wave got pulled), but you just can't get any farm.


Denying the Dire mid exp makes a huge difference. A level advantage tends to be a huge advantage middle, especially around level 6 and 7. Gold from it is just icing on the cake.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
November 23 2012 06:07 GMT
#30747
On November 23 2012 13:34 FinestHour wrote:
just out of curiosity what did nb say to get 90 days lmao

im not surprised, his attitude seems a bit iffy
betamale
Profile Joined September 2010
633 Posts
November 23 2012 07:16 GMT
#30748
jesus christ 11 losses in a row

WHEN WILL THIS PUNISHMENT END
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
November 23 2012 07:17 GMT
#30749
On November 23 2012 14:07 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 13:17 canikizu wrote:
On November 23 2012 12:34 akatama wrote:
I have managed to pull the ancient camp to the mid lane as Radiant without doing any weird stuff (just the usual pull) by accident. I will investigate the timings tomorrow, but if it turns out to be true and you couple it with the other pull you can do on Radiant mid lane it might turn out gamebreaking. Pulling on mid is a huge deal due to it's volatile nature. Dire should be given equal chance, but most likely it means changing the behavior of creeps or the terrain.


I think it's because although you can pull it, you can't really farm it. If you pull the small and big camp, the dude that does the pulling can get some farm and level, but if you pull the ancient, the effect is gonna be the same (the creep wave got pulled), but you just can't get any farm.


Denying the Dire mid exp makes a huge difference. A level advantage tends to be a huge advantage middle, especially around level 6 and 7. Gold from it is just icing on the cake.

I know that. I mean that pulling ancient to deny and pulling small/hard camp to deny serve the same purpose, which is to deny creeps. That's why it makes more sense to pull other camps and not the ancient because you at least get some gold/xp.
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
November 23 2012 07:55 GMT
#30750
On November 23 2012 16:16 betamale wrote:
jesus christ 11 losses in a row

WHEN WILL THIS PUNISHMENT END


In time mate, in time. You will do bad and then go on a winning streak followed by potential losing streak. Such is the fate of dota 2. Hopefully upon full release, it might get more players and hopefully (although not guaranteed) the MMR will have a softer touch.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
November 23 2012 08:06 GMT
#30751
Hah so played a few games after a long hiatus. It seems I cannot do well unless I play enchantress. Granted she is one of my best performers of times past but I was hoping to retain more knowledge than just sproinking bitches to death.

Still though, I love that deer lady. Reminds me why this game is totally awesome
"I am a leaf on the wind."
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
November 23 2012 08:42 GMT
#30752
Welp, cent is pretty good, i just had my first game with him (random no hate pls) and he rapes. His attack animation is so good, i missed last hits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 23 2012 09:02 GMT
#30753
I still hate on randoms. 800 gold is worse than 600 gold with a good hero. Fuck you erasme.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
November 23 2012 09:08 GMT
#30754
thats not what i meant..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
November 23 2012 09:10 GMT
#30755
I still hate on non-randomers. "Bad" heroes are more fun to play.

Viva La AR!!!
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 23 2012 09:11 GMT
#30756
Random draft is where it's at

If they ever have a ladder MM it should be RD
Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
November 23 2012 09:12 GMT
#30757
On November 23 2012 18:10 LAN-f34r wrote:
I still hate on non-randomers. "Bad" heroes are more fun to play.

Viva La AR!!!

What about all the people who random a 5th carry for the team, and say it's not their fault their pick sucks because they randomed?
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
November 23 2012 09:20 GMT
#30758
Random'ing is fine unless it screws over the team. For example, I often make sure I am first or second to pick (by random) so not to get a five man carry team. Also, if I random and the hero will obviously screw over the team, I will simply repick and choose a more reasonable hero (even at the expense of the gold).
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 09:21:58
November 23 2012 09:21 GMT
#30759
I swear people only random good heroes, everytime I see someone insta random TA...

And if you're queuing with friends you can just have most of the team random and then swap heroes around and even if someone gets a shit hero he can just change it and deal with the little gold he loses, someone else can buy him Tangos.

You start with 853 gold.
You choose a hero you lose 250 gold and end up with 603 gold.
You random a hero you keep 853 gold.
You change your hero, you end up with 503 gold.

So if you have three people randoming and you get one decent hero and change two others you still have more gold in the team even with the penalty than you would with normal picks.

And Cent imba, so much fun to play though.

Although I mostly play random draft when solo queuing now, friends insist on all pick though.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
November 23 2012 09:21 GMT
#30760
btw i'm still waiting for wd to be mainpick ... maledict is too strong and cask is pretty good when theres no creep around ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
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