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Russian Federation4050 Posts
On November 15 2012 07:27 NB wrote:Tournament drop is HUGE. Imagine an EGMasterCup courier  . more reason to buy tickets+pennants value will go WAY up. Starladder courier is already coming.
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On November 15 2012 08:21 duoform wrote:By the time Blizzard releases HotS (12.03.2013), Valve is still working on tutorial system for newbies/newcomers, still working on LAN, no server capacity especially for Asia(China, SEA), Oceania and 10 heroes left to port... I'm not hating on them because I know how Valve roll but damn man... Think about the millions of people in Asia who are waiting for this!
It will also have been 3 years and a new expansion and SC2 still won't have all the features that the community wanted since sc2 WoL beta.
I'd rather have a great release then an 'ok' game that needs a ton of work that won't really get done until 3+ years after the game was released.
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On November 15 2012 08:44 dfs wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 07:27 NB wrote:Tournament drop is HUGE. Imagine an EGMasterCup courier  . more reason to buy tickets+pennants value will go WAY up. Starladder courier is already coming.
plz be tiny vilat that mimics stormspirit in apperance.
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Maybe ill be good again now that he got his wings back
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How do I handle Outworld's ulti as Magnus? Lvl 20 Magnus vs Lvl 23-max Outworld. In team fights, the ult absolutely ruined me last night. I am certain it can be attributed to my own terrible play but I am curious as to "work arounds" or suggestions. Thanks.
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United States47024 Posts
On November 15 2012 09:04 IPA wrote: How do I handle Outworld's ulti as Magnus? Lvl 20 Magnus vs Lvl 23-max Outworld. In team fights, the ult absolutely ruined me last night. I am certain it can be attributed to my own terrible play but I am curious as to "work arounds" or suggestions. Thanks. If the game gets to the point where OD is level 23, he generally takes over the game at that point, barring harder carries that have specific usefulness against him.
"How do I deal with level 23+ OD?" is essentially tantamount to "How do I deal with 4-item Void/AM/etc.?" Either you have a similarly farmed hard carry, or you have to build up enough of an advantage before that point to deal with him.
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On November 15 2012 09:04 IPA wrote: How do I handle Outworld's ulti as Magnus? Lvl 20 Magnus vs Lvl 23-max Outworld. In team fights, the ult absolutely ruined me last night. I am certain it can be attributed to my own terrible play but I am curious as to "work arounds" or suggestions. Thanks.
you really can't (besides avoiding the aoe altogether) unless you somehow get an ungodly amount of intelligence
alternatively you can just kill him (with your friends) before he uses it
edit: or what yango said
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Y Bkb and OD is useless, pure damage doesn't hit u, neither ult or banish. He's basically a big creep when u have bkb.
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On November 15 2012 09:04 IPA wrote: How do I handle Outworld's ulti as Magnus? Lvl 20 Magnus vs Lvl 23-max Outworld. In team fights, the ult absolutely ruined me last night. I am certain it can be attributed to my own terrible play but I am curious as to "work arounds" or suggestions. Thanks. Kill him during RP or get shivas. As the previous posters have said, by that time you should have a sheepstick or bkb and sufficient damage to kill the <insert any hardcarry> or you just lose.
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United States47024 Posts
BKB's usefulness against OD can very wildly. 10 second BKBs obviously pose a problem for OD, but when we're talking level 23+ OD who will probably have Sheep+BKB+Force+Shiva's, he can probably Force->Sheep and kill you before you even come out of Sheep. And at that point your BKBs will be down to 5 seconds, meaning that unless you have a hard carry that can handle him regardless, that 5 seconds isn't quite enough.
By and large if you're dealing with level 23+ OD, the issue is rarely the need for counter-items, but the fact that you're trying to come up with a solution to letting a game get to level 23+ on a hard carry like OD unless you have a similarly farmed hard carry that can deal with OD. By and large, the best way to deal with OD is going to be to not let the game get to that point, as the hero's primary weaknesses manifest much more strongly during the midgame than the lategame (no AoE, no hard disables, no escapes, etc.).
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what are the best streams to watch for learning ?
would like a solid combo of top play and commentary although commentary more important
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On November 15 2012 09:21 ToguRo wrote: what are the best streams to watch for learning ?
would like a solid combo of top play and commentary although commentary more important Merlini. Definitely Merlini!
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On November 15 2012 09:30 duoform wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 09:21 ToguRo wrote: what are the best streams to watch for learning ?
would like a solid combo of top play and commentary although commentary more important Merlini. Definitely Merlini!
thanks
heard his name a lot will check it out
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On November 15 2012 09:19 TheYango wrote: BKB's usefulness against OD can very wildly. 10 second BKBs obviously pose a problem for OD, but when we're talking level 23+ OD who will probably have Sheep+BKB+Force+Shiva's, he can probably Force->Sheep and kill you before you even come out of Sheep. And at that point your BKBs will be down to 5 seconds, meaning that unless you have a hard carry that can handle him regardless, that 5 seconds isn't quite enough.
By and large if you're dealing with level 23+ OD, the issue is rarely the need for counter-items, but the fact that you're trying to come up with a solution to letting a game get to level 23+ on a hard carry like OD unless you have a similarly farmed hard carry that can deal with OD. By and large, the best way to deal with OD is going to be to not let the game get to that point, as the hero's primary weaknesses manifest much more strongly during the midgame than the lategame (no AoE, no hard disables, no escapes, etc.).
this OD only kills one guy, sounds much less effective than veil of discord + cheep + aghs + refresher kill entire other team in one shot OD
PS: and rod of atros
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On November 15 2012 09:19 TheYango wrote: BKB's usefulness against OD can very wildly. 10 second BKBs obviously pose a problem for OD, but when we're talking level 23+ OD who will probably have Sheep+BKB+Force+Shiva's, he can probably Force->Sheep and kill you before you even come out of Sheep. And at that point your BKBs will be down to 5 seconds, meaning that unless you have a hard carry that can handle him regardless, that 5 seconds isn't quite enough.
By and large if you're dealing with level 23+ OD, the issue is rarely the need for counter-items, but the fact that you're trying to come up with a solution to letting a game get to level 23+ on a hard carry like OD unless you have a similarly farmed hard carry that can deal with OD. By and large, the best way to deal with OD is going to be to not let the game get to that point, as the hero's primary weaknesses manifest much more strongly during the midgame than the lategame (no AoE, no hard disables, no escapes, etc.).
Assuming two similar farmed team, a team with 3-4 bkb on him will basically nullify Destro possibilities and obliterate him before the Bkb are out. OD may be an hard carry, but he's the only one that is countered easily by an item that every carry should get anyway. When your carry can attack 5 people and destro can attack only 2 you're in a pretty good position. He's good but his power isn't in the lategame but rather in the laning phase and in the midgame before the enemy team get mass bkb.
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The problem is that, even if your hardcarry has a bkb, your 3th, 4th and 5th won't. Playing a 2v5 5sec after the beginning of a fight is not a good sign :p And I never thought of veil ... eheheh
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Netherlands45349 Posts
wtf
instead of Dusa we get some murloc
hate
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MrHoon
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slark is pretty cool, enjoyed him a bit on test client aside from the shadowdance bug that gives you permanent healing
would be awesome to see him at comp games but i doubt it ._.
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