EPTOnly evasion that stacks is backtrack, otherwise don't get two dodges.
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
Only evasion that stacks is backtrack, otherwise don't get two dodges. | ||
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Ingenol
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Incze
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ChrisXIV
Austria3553 Posts
On November 07 2012 06:39 Ingenol wrote: Anyone looking for a friend to queue with? I've played ~500 games/~50% winrate almost exclusively solo, so I have a lot to learn. Just looking for some reasonably mature, serious, mid-tier people to play with and learn from. Ingenol on Steam. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359638 The right thread for you.  | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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itsthewoo
United States260 Posts
On November 07 2012 06:35 trinxified wrote: How about butterfly with blur or any other evasion abilities? And you mean I should drop both items, and pick up PMS first then VanguarD? Only butterfly will take effect since it has a higher effect. Butterfly stacks with backtrack though, apparently. Yes to picking up Vanguard after PMS if you want Vanguard to ever take effect against heroes. Not to be mean, but plenty of these answers are accessible via Google . | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 07 2012 06:40 Incze wrote: Afaik there are diminishing returns if you get butterfly on PA. You don't get the full 30% eva from butterfly, though I'll leave the accurate numbers to more knowledgeable people No, multiple evasion sources don't stack, period. The only exception is Backtrack because it's not true evasion. | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
On November 07 2012 06:42 itsthewoo wrote: Only butterfly will take effect since it has a higher effect. Butterfly stacks with backtrack though, apparently. Yes to picking up Vanguard after PMS if you want Vanguard to ever take effect against heroes. Not to be mean, but plenty of these answers are accessible via Google .Thanks thanks. And yeah, it isn't a great item build but I made a mistake in buying items with PA, and ended up having 2 stout shields. I might as well tried lol. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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dfs
Russian Federation4050 Posts
On November 07 2012 06:43 TheYango wrote: No, multiple evasion sources don't stack, period. The only exception is Backtrack because it's not true evasion. There are 3 "evasion" types: a buff (skill or item), debuff (skill) and high ground miss chance. You can't stack evasion of the same type. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
If I am PA with max blur and 6 butterflies, I have exactly 35% evasion, despite having 7 different things that would all give me 35%. If I am a hero with no evasion, and I buy Butterfly and an additional talisman of evasion, I have exactly 35% evasion from the butterfly (the talisman does nothing). Etc. etc. Do note that Backtrack + evasion stacking does still suffer from diminishing returns, much like crits. Faceless with max backtrack (25%) + a butterfly (35%) = ~51% physical evasion (25% + [35% of 75%]) Edit: I'm late to the party, clearly | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
Dota 2 Wiki doesn't seem to have it... | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 07 2012 06:48 dfs wrote: There are 3 "evasion" types: a buff (skill or item), debuff (skill) and high ground miss chance. You can't stack evasion of the same type. "Evasion" the stat specifically refers to only the first of the 3. I haven't ever seen the other two referred to as evasion. When Panda casts Drunken Haze on you, nobody says "everyone has 75% evasion against you"--they say you have 75% miss chance. | ||
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ControlMonkey
Australia3109 Posts
On November 07 2012 06:43 TheYango wrote: No, multiple evasion sources don't stack, period. The only exception is Backtrack because it's not true evasion. That's because Void is bullshit. Always backtrack, never don't backtrack. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On November 07 2012 06:48 dfs wrote: There are 3 "evasion" types: a buff (skill or item), debuff (skill) and high ground miss chance. You can't stack evasion of the same type. You mean evasion + "blind" spells+ uphill right? I once tried attacking uphill a troll warlord that had me blinded and had a talisman of evasion. And yeah, those stack, but the debuff is on the attacker | ||
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dfs
Russian Federation4050 Posts
On November 07 2012 06:50 TheYango wrote: "Evasion" the stat specifically refers to only the first of the 3. I haven't ever seen the other two referred to as evasion. I am russian, we have different names for this kind of stuff. I should apologise for any misunderstanding. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On November 07 2012 06:52 dfs wrote: I am russian, we have different names for this kind of stuff. Don't worry, I'm a part of a special subculture that calls urn of shadows either "urine" or konocha  | ||
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dragonblade369
Canada464 Posts
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Qbek
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Skullflower
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