EPTEdit: also i noticed that all this " call the skill by their name " nonsense became popular after tobi talked about it in the interview with jp. Why ?
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
Edit: also i noticed that all this " call the skill by their name " nonsense became popular after tobi talked about it in the interview with jp. Why ? | ||
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Skamtet
Canada634 Posts
On October 31 2012 06:20 BlitzerSC wrote: right...There is no point in using legacy keys. Qwer is better and everyone understand what you are talking about | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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akatama
Romania982 Posts
NS vs Seeker... BS is a strong 1v1 solo, but extremely prone to ganking. He is better at providing vision than his three-jawed counterpart (only pre-aghs though, a Agha NS is pure maphack). You could argue that Smoke sort of killed Seeker (and other fragile no-escape heroes like SF). I would love to see a Aghanim's effect on him (constant vision on blood raged and ruptured heroes would fit) or a bloodrage buff (split the damage increase and silence in 2 separate effects so you can purge the silence off an ally or purge the dmg buff off an enemy; casting the skill would still affect the target with both effects). Come to think of it, I should have used the word "alternative", not "replacement". | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On October 31 2012 06:22 TheYango wrote: C/R/E/W skill hotkeys = DS or Faceless. Probably DS because Faceless has 2 active skills lol. Nope. But I should have mentioned i was extremely liberal with order of the hotkeys, going out of my way to ensure that the skills that are most used land on c and r. In dota2 the order is so I have most orbwalking stuff on R, as it is in legacy | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
On October 31 2012 06:20 BlitzerSC wrote: There is no point in using legacy keys. Qwer is better and everyone understand what you are talking about. Edit: also i noticed that all this " call the skill by their name " nonsense became popular after tobi talked about it in the interview with jp. Why ? If I were a new player reading this thread, I'd still rather see the name of the skill. I personally still legacy, but you don't see me going around saying "hold off on skilling your D or B before seeing your lane and max F first." Why make things confusing for people? | ||
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majava
Finland248 Posts
On October 31 2012 06:20 BlitzerSC wrote: There is no point in using legacy keys. Qwer is better and everyone understand what you are talking about. Edit: also i noticed that all this " call the skill by their name " nonsense became popular after tobi talked about it in the interview with jp. Why ? After playing with the same skill buttons 5 years, I kind of see the point in it. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 31 2012 06:26 Qbek wrote: Nope. But I should have mentioned i was extremely liberal with order of the hotkeys, going out of my way to ensure that the skills that are most used land on c and r. In dota2 the order is so I have most orbwalking stuff on R, as it is in legacy I'm pretty sure those are the only 2 heroes that have C/R/E/W (in any order) as their 4 main skills, unless I misinterpreted what you mean by "V and X aren't part of the starting setup". | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On October 31 2012 06:34 TheYango wrote: I'm pretty sure those are the only 2 heroes that have C/R/E/W (in any order) as their 4 main skills, unless I misinterpreted what you mean by "V and X aren't part of the starting setup". Windrunner Unless I was lying to myself all that time xD | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
I guess there is an argument that says if you don't know the name, don't discuss the spell, but I'm not sure knowing the name is any more important than, say knowing the legacy key binding to most people (no importance whatsoever). To add to this, new players will ALMOST ALWAYS use QWER, and they certainly won't know the spell names either ("Nether Strike" doesn't mean anything to me OR them, except that I just looked it up as an example). | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On October 31 2012 06:38 Dead9 wrote: the most comfortable legacy hotkeys are definitely skeleton king's or huskar's when you play it sing's style. aka no heal only manhood for protection spell shield btw I mean come on, its not hard. I play dota since 6months and I know every items, every build up and every skills that are in dota2 | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 31 2012 06:38 Dead9 wrote: the most comfortable legacy hotkeys are definitely skeleton king's I was about to ask why Hellfire Blast uses T instead of E, then I remembered its because it used to be Storm Bolt. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On October 31 2012 06:38 TheYango wrote: Focus Fire is F. Why the hell would Focus Fire be C? I hate the DF row for hotkeys, I use it for learning skills (25 clicks a game i can stand). I might have changed it to C first and then applied it to all others  | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Actually, I don't search much, but still. Maybe it is a legacy of too much HoN (rebindable, but default QWER on every hero and all the same spells were renamed). Actually, I think I can name the ablilities of most of the HoN heroes 1+ years old. Still, describing skill builds as: Shadow Strike, Blink, Shadow Strike, Scream of Pain, Scream of Pain, Scream of Pain, Scream of Pain, Sonic Wave, Blink, Blink, Sonic Wave really isn't "grokkable". At a glance, it is neither obvious what level you are getting ultimate nor how many levels I just allocated, etc etc. To clarify, I'm looking for convenient shorthand here when discussing a build, not a way to write a guide to Queen of Pain. This isn't the guide thread | ||
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Skullflower
United States3779 Posts
On October 31 2012 06:28 flamewheel wrote: If I were a new player reading this thread, I'd still rather see the name of the skill. I personally still legacy, but you don't see me going around saying "hold off on skilling your D or B before seeing your lane and max F first." Why make things confusing for people? Who is honestly going to be confused if you say "Skill E first on lane" or whatever because it's always the 3rd skill. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
Meanwhile if you people havent notice: Singsing actually answering EVERY questions asked in his stream thread :O... so good | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
slow blink nuke nuke nuke ult nuke edit: alternately if you point out the order first i don't think anyone will have an issue with it i like 1141 and wqeere and 1233343 but nobody else likes any of them apparently  | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
1 SS/blink 2 blink/ SS 3 Scream 5scream 6scream 7scream 8ult | ||
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