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Sorry for pushing clock so hard, i just like him 
Edit: I should probably say why I like him and have people tell me some recommend me some heroes that are stronger higher up or something, pretty much im looking for a hero that is mobile and effective without much gold but can still have some effect on the game (with ganks or in other ways). some complexity or skills that can be used in more then 1 way. My favourite heroes so far are visage,clock,invoker,enchantress,weaver, and AA seems pretty cool too, haven't played him yet however
So, any recommendations? (i have a feeling that i've said this before)
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Windrunner and Rubick come to mind.
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Beastmaster is basically a less farm-dependant clock. Give u vision, great in ganks with his long stun ult, nuke for farming. If you want mobility, farm blink (i don't like it on him however, prefer to go SR, Tranquil, Medallion).
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Does windrunner ult stack desolator on the target?
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Your questions never cease to amaze me. ;X
For heroes that can have lots of impact even when starved I would pick guys like Rubick & AA or, with some farm space later down the road for blink, ES/Tide/SK.
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On October 19 2012 08:19 LazyFailKid wrote:
Does windrunner ult stack desolator on the target?
I think you need Agh's scepter before WR ult will apply orb effects.
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On October 19 2012 07:50 Witten wrote:
I only have like 15 items and at the pace I'm going they're all going to be Tidehunter items.
I'm beyond satisfied.
Also I've moved on from playing with bots solo to playing with bots co-operatively! I've played just fine in the 25 or so MM games I've played but I just feel so much safer in bot games. One day I'll progress to playing MM games only.
Maybe.
if you want help learning the game feel free to add me steam so we can play a few games 
l_cahiza@hotmail.com is my steam email and kzn is my steam nickname.
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On October 19 2012 07:52 LazyFailKid wrote:Sorry for pushing clock so hard, i just like him Edit: I should probably say why I like him and have people tell me some recommend me some heroes that are stronger higher up or something, pretty much im looking for a hero that is mobile and effective without much gold but can still have some effect on the game (with ganks or in other ways). some complexity or skills that can be used in more then 1 way. My favourite heroes so far are visage,clock,invoker,enchantress,weaver, and AA seems pretty cool too, haven't played him yet however So, any recommendations? (i have a feeling that i've said this before)
puck is also pretty good for you.
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On October 19 2012 08:24 SnipedSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2012 08:19 LazyFailKid wrote:
Does windrunner ult stack desolator on the target? I think you need Agh's scepter before WR ult will apply orb effects.
No, Aghs removes the damage penalty from them, but they should still work on the regular ult.
I don't know what you mean by "stack" desolator, the debuff never stacks, do you mean apply?
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Hey man, better to learn now then later ^_^
Edit: derp thought desolator stacked -1 armor debuff every time it hit for some reason lol
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Unfortunately did Clock fell a bit short in the later stages of DotA and therefore the dota 2 transition didn't make it any better for him. There is also some tweaking on his model and rocket that needs to be done because it's worse than in wc3 DotA. Can be a really fun hero to play but in more serious and competitive play there is just better heroes that can take his place.
But you can still rape with him on random pubs from time to time. =)
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On October 19 2012 08:40 Gosi wrote:
Unfortunately did Clock fell a bit short in the later stages of DotA and therefore the dota 2 transition didn't make it any better for him. There is also some tweaking on his model and rocket that needs to be done because it's worse than in wc3 DotA. Can be a really fun hero to play but in more serious and competitive play there is just better heroes that can take his place.
But you can still rape with him on random pubs from time to time. =)
The cogs are just super unfriendly imo
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On October 19 2012 09:03 Spicy_Curry wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2012 08:40 Gosi wrote:
Unfortunately did Clock fell a bit short in the later stages of DotA and therefore the dota 2 transition didn't make it any better for him. There is also some tweaking on his model and rocket that needs to be done because it's worse than in wc3 DotA. Can be a really fun hero to play but in more serious and competitive play there is just better heroes that can take his place.
But you can still rape with him on random pubs from time to time. =) The cogs are just super unfriendly imo
yeah, they should change it to like a 600 range skill or something and maybe make it so your allies can walk though it since it's so easy to try and save your teammates and get them killed since they were stuck in with the enemy you tried to catch.
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if this needs to be moved to the QQ thread then tell me and i'll edit my post but its more of a question.
I dont understand matchmaking at all, monday/tuesday i felt like i had finally been moved to a upper bracket and was constantly winning and dominating my games no matter which roles i was going because people actually had a better idea of how to play their heroes/roles and now for no reason since wednesday i started playing with terrible players again and i'm continuously losing or losing at least 50% of my games cause people dont understand how to play their lanes or roles. I just dont get it at all, shouldn't you get matched against and with better players the longer your winning streak goes/that your MMR goes up? Why did i suddenly get forced back to playing in a lower bracket when i was on a winning streak?
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On October 19 2012 10:08 YunhOLee wrote:
if this needs to be moved to the QQ thread then tell me and i'll edit my post but its more of a question.
I dont understand matchmaking at all, monday/tuesday i felt like i had finally been moved to a upper bracket and was constantly winning and dominating my games no matter which roles i was going because people actually had a better idea of how to play their heroes/roles and now for no reason since wednesday i started playing with terrible players again and i'm continuously losing or losing at least 50% of my games cause people dont understand how to play their lanes or roles. I just dont get it at all, shouldn't you get matched against and with better players the longer your winning streak goes/that your MMR goes up? Why did i suddenly get forced back to playing in a lower bracket when i was on a winning streak?
Part of matchmaking balance is to pair you with donkeys and monkeys when you're on a streak. I noticed this pattern a long time ago.
You get used to it honestly. Just pick a strong mid hero or jungle carry when you feel like you're gonna have a bad game.
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On October 19 2012 10:22 Emnjay808 wrote:
You get used to it honestly. Just pick a strong mid hero or jungle carry when you feel like you're gonna have a bad game.
Or every game *cough* like me *cough cough*
I had full intentions of playing support almost always when I switched to dota2 but it just wasn't worth the pain of babysitting some of these players. Now I have a 100% win rate with Lycan (pre-6.75) and my Syllabear percentage is gaining slowly. Jungle carry so much easier, no stress involved
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On October 19 2012 10:32 ReignSupreme. wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2012 10:22 Emnjay808 wrote:
You get used to it honestly. Just pick a strong mid hero or jungle carry when you feel like you're gonna have a bad game. Or every game *cough* like me *cough cough* I had full intentions of playing support almost always when I switched to dota2 but it just wasn't worth the pain of babysitting some of these players. Now I have a 100% win rate with Lycan (pre-6.75) and my Syllabear percentage is gaining slowly. Jungle carry so much easier, no stress involved
I've tried jungle sylla, didn't have a very high win percentage in very high skill. Naix is the only jungle carry that seems to have enough midgame dps/survivability to offset losing the lane.
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Hey guys, just need some feedback on this game here;
https://dotabuff.com/matches/50831623 (I'm Jakiro)
Some general tips on how to deal with my pulling being interrupted by WR and AM early game (which lead me to stop stacking+pulling, warding, skill use, item purchases, positioning would be appreciated.
If you don't have time, I really want to know how to deal with that whole harass while pulling/stacking. Apologies for the rage at the shackle, I was just frustrated after a day of solo queue
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On October 19 2012 11:32 Klonere wrote:Hey guys, just need some feedback on this game here; https://dotabuff.com/matches/50831623 (I'm Jakiro) Some general tips on how to deal with my pulling being interrupted by WR and AM early game (which lead me to stop stacking+pulling, warding, skill use, item purchases, positioning would be appreciated. If you don't have time, I really want to know how to deal with that whole harass while pulling/stacking. Apologies for the rage at the shackle, I was just frustrated after a day of solo queue
You could probably use ice path to harass. It deals 100 damage, and you can get 1 or 2 autoattacks off while the opponent is stunned. Works pretty well against AM, good when WR tries to get a powershot.
Also it costs only 75 mana, and is really spammable.
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On October 19 2012 01:13 betamale wrote:
to go back a few pages
xboct PL maxes windwalk in free farm lane.. thoughts?
Didn't watch the game. Was it in the safe lane? If it was he can use his illusion to pull the camps himself to keep the lane stagnant, and that would be pretty mana intensive if he didn't max it. Otherwise, someone else brought up CK + Wisp. Boom.
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