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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-19 03:00:03
October 19 2012 02:59 GMT
#25621
so i have been jungling with gyro lately and a thought occur, Mask of madness or HotD is better on gyro? overall 20x6 dmg or the speed of dmg output is more important? thoughts?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 19 2012 03:03 GMT
#25622
On October 19 2012 11:59 NB wrote:
so i have been jungling with gyro lately and a thought occur, Mask of madness or HotD is better on gyro? overall 20x6 dmg or the speed of dmg output is more important? thoughts?


Gyro says the name of HOTD when he buys it. Doesnt say anything when you buy MOM. The choice should be obvious.
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
LazyFailKid
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada750 Posts
October 19 2012 03:25 GMT
#25623
Does anyone say anything when you buy MoM?
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
October 19 2012 03:37 GMT
#25624
Void does at least.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
ArmyOfPlatypi
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States188 Posts
October 19 2012 05:03 GMT
#25625
On October 19 2012 11:59 NB wrote:
so i have been jungling with gyro lately and a thought occur, Mask of madness or HotD is better on gyro? overall 20x6 dmg or the speed of dmg output is more important? thoughts?


Could play like Luna and stack ancients with the creep until you do a good amount of damage, then just clear them all with Flak. If Flak works on ancients. I actually don't know. Plus MoM would just burn through Flak faster, it'll just end up on cooldown more often than not.
"You have something in your teeth--" "You know what I have in my teeth? VENGEANCE!"
andy186
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1058 Posts
October 19 2012 05:19 GMT
#25626
On October 19 2012 14:03 ArmyOfPlatypi wrote:
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On October 19 2012 11:59 NB wrote:
so i have been jungling with gyro lately and a thought occur, Mask of madness or HotD is better on gyro? overall 20x6 dmg or the speed of dmg output is more important? thoughts?


Could play like Luna and stack ancients with the creep until you do a good amount of damage, then just clear them all with Flak. If Flak works on ancients. I actually don't know. Plus MoM would just burn through Flak faster, it'll just end up on cooldown more often than not.


it does its just a lot slower but you can just do it while laning go kite them until the flak runs out then come back
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 19 2012 05:34 GMT
#25627
Did you actually read the question? i didnt ask a how to question.....
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
October 19 2012 06:18 GMT
#25628
On October 19 2012 11:32 Klonere wrote:
Hey guys, just need some feedback on this game here;

https://dotabuff.com/matches/50831623 (I'm Jakiro)

Some general tips on how to deal with my pulling being interrupted by WR and AM early game (which lead me to stop stacking+pulling, warding, skill use, item purchases, positioning would be appreciated.

If you don't have time, I really want to know how to deal with that whole harass while pulling/stacking. Apologies for the rage at the shackle, I was just frustrated after a day of solo queue


If you meant at around 5mins, the critical thing that 'you' did wrong was allowing that (noob) luna lead the creeps to your stack. The enemy creeps give vision and thus they can see what they are dealing with. And the worst thing you two were missing the lane creeps and your tower was taking unnecessary damage.

The thing is they come to your stack is expected because that's the correct response to your pull, you just last hit the neutrals/deny your creep to waste their effort. And they cant afford to keep doing that, because if they did, they will lose more exp as they will miss the next wave of the creep on lane (which is why luna should never lead the enemy creep to you). The neutrals camps is supposed to be YOUR income so that luna can gtfo if she wanted a share (meh, this is situational at times).

The whole point of stack pulling is to deny the enemies exp/gold, you deny your creeps as much as you can but certainly not every wave (and it is easier to do on dire safelane.

I am writing this 'how to support' guide so expect to see my tips in there soon (will probably finish it after my deadline on work today Q_Q).
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 19 2012 06:44 GMT
#25629
On mom/hotd I think it depends on whether you want Gyro to get off all his flak attacks very rapidly and improve his chasing or would rather go for survivability and increased damage per hit. MoM can make gyro flak almost a burst tool while HoTD assists in things like going lothars for a strong initial flak cannon hit.

Just off the cuff I would say that MoM is probably good if you're ahead and it's early-midgame but that hotd increasingly becomes the better option the longer the game goes on.
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
October 19 2012 07:14 GMT
#25630
Valve is sending out new invites it seems. :D Just got the email today.
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"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
October 19 2012 07:14 GMT
#25631
On October 19 2012 16:14 ChrisXIV wrote:
Valve is sending out new invites it seems. :D Just got the email today.
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[image loading]

Congrats man.
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
October 19 2012 07:18 GMT
#25632
I just received an eMail saying that I have extra gift passes to give away. Not sure how many though, can't log in right now.
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
October 19 2012 07:20 GMT
#25633
Steam told me I get two invites but theres only one there. T_T
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-19 07:21:34
October 19 2012 07:20 GMT
#25634
On October 19 2012 16:14 ChrisXIV wrote:
Valve is sending out new invites it seems. :D Just got the email today.
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[image loading]


Congratulations man. Hope I can get another invite haha but I dont want to prioritize that over other people not even in the game. Really need a smurf for some non page 1 pro stack games over and over. -__-

Random note but no tidehunter best team ever.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 19 2012 08:01 GMT
#25635
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=59019

OH HI
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Resent
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia938 Posts
October 19 2012 08:05 GMT
#25636
On October 19 2012 16:20 r.Evo wrote:
Steam told me I get two invites but theres only one there. T_T

Haha yeh same for me
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
October 19 2012 08:08 GMT
#25637
CUTEST BUG EVER
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
RichardHag
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23 Posts
October 19 2012 08:31 GMT
#25638
Are there any other TL players high enough skill to be page 1 on the live games? I'd love to expand my friend list beyond my competitive team, and the other teams I scrim against so I can pub stack for fewer games lost via shadow blade Gondar and last pick random
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-19 08:35:20
October 19 2012 08:34 GMT
#25639
via shadow blade Gondar and last pick random


I don't see how either of that is bad
ArmyOfPlatypi
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States188 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-19 08:46:03
October 19 2012 08:44 GMT
#25640
On October 19 2012 14:34 NB wrote:
Did you actually read the question? i didnt ask a how to question.....


tl;dr Maximizing the damage of each Flak charge is better than burning through them and waiting on the cooldown. HotD.
"You have something in your teeth--" "You know what I have in my teeth? VENGEANCE!"
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