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Diablo 3 - A Look ahead 8 years

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NostalgiaTag
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada508 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 21:23:25
October 13 2011 19:20 GMT
#1
Diablo going forward is going to be a great game on its own but in a few years after the expansions have come and gone and the game starts to settle, like Diablo 2 LOD is currently what is going to hold you to the game?

These are some idea's that I've read that could add a large amount of replayability to the game, and further entice people to maximize their gear.

1) PvM Competitive Dungeons: This would be a dungeon that would constantly spawn mobs and boss type mobs every so often increasing as the timer goes on. It would be a scoreboard for the longest someone would survive. You would have to remove potions but still leave in health orbs, the difficulty would increase as the timer passes. Some ballancing would be needed such as if there are too many mobs in the arena the damage of the mobs would increase, to stop people from running and not fighting.

2) Unlimited Dungeon: A Dungeon where its randomly generated but you just keep going deeper and deeper getting harder and harder till the mobs are just too much and you die. Could be a good test for a group of 4 people trying to get as deep as possible.

3) PvM Castle Seige: This would be a team game where players would have to defend a keep against a oncoming horde of troops. You could go either way with this, have teams of players defending and attacking or simply have a group defending against NPC's like helms deep.

The Team Vs Team would be hard to have a score board, but Defending players VS NPC's would be fun and competitive to see how long you could survive.

4) Boss Battle: A game where 1 player plays the "Boss" and a team of 4 players plays the "Hero's". This would be fun cause a computer can only do so much, where a player can make a boss act smart and be really interesting. (Kinda like the Magic: The Gathering boss battles ^.^)

5) Speed Run: Like what Trump has been doing, try run a dungeon as fast as possible, a timer to help etc. Could be interesting ^.^

6) Hardcore PvP: A PvP with permanent death. This could be interesting, it would be even funner having casters cast this kind of thing, with so much on the line.

Imagine this TL... A Gladiator style match every week. 2 Hardcore players duke it out for everyone to watch. The winner gets the ear of the oponent and a stack of gold (put up by each player). Defeat means permanent death and humiliation in frount of lots of people. Victory means instant fame! This would encourage pvp not only for fun, but for reward and FAME! Imaging a player having 5 ears, he would be a hero!

What are your ideas TL?
Look for the flaw that lost the game not the flaw in the game.
Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
October 13 2011 19:35 GMT
#2
These are really cool ideas! I'd like to play all of these... Too bad it looks like Blizz will take the easy way out and just but WoW battlegrounds into D3.
Krowser
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada788 Posts
October 13 2011 19:47 GMT
#3
I love the Castle defense one, Once the main walls are breached the party falls back to the keep and tries to hold on.

One idea I liked was the unlimited dungeon. You just keep going deeper, and deeper, and deeper, and deeper, trying to beat your own highscore against increasingly ridiculously strong monsters. (Inferno mode cow level?).

The game isnt out yet so it's useless to speculate imo.
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NostalgiaTag
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada508 Posts
October 13 2011 19:52 GMT
#4
On October 14 2011 04:47 Krowser wrote:
I love the Castle defense one, Once the main walls are breached the party falls back to the keep and tries to hold on.

One idea I liked was the unlimited dungeon. You just keep going deeper, and deeper, and deeper, and deeper, trying to beat your own highscore against increasingly ridiculously strong monsters. (Inferno mode cow level?).

The game isnt out yet so it's useless to speculate imo.


I don't think its useless to speculate. I'm mostly bored waiting for my beta email and can't stop thinking about D3 lol. Its fun to think up ideas like this, especially if there is a chance we can influence the game ^.^

I do like that unlimited dungeon idea, il add to OP
Look for the flaw that lost the game not the flaw in the game.
Aruno
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 20:01:57
October 13 2011 20:00 GMT
#5
What I want out of Diablo 3. Bunch of friends all play hardcore mode, play for 5hrs all from the same time. After 5 hrs is up, all players must meet in battle arena for a fight to the death.
Free for all :D

Or if it's allowed, then a hardcore arena battles in which you hero doesn't actually die if you lose, then it can be 1v1 1 round sets till the finals 3 round set.

I'd also like to do races, like pick a hero. Race to complete the whole game. Who ever is fastest wins!

That'd be fun, and even could be ranked world wide :D

Imagine:
Samwise | D3 completion time record | 6hrs 21mins 32seconds |
Nubslayer | D3 completion record | 5hrs 50mins 22seconds |

Woot competition
aruno, arunoaj, aruno_aj | Those are my main aliases
zekie
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada380 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 20:02:50
October 13 2011 20:01 GMT
#6
I love the sounds of this. This would make the game much more fun and not just Baal run after Baal run after Baal run after Baal run after Baal run after Baal run etc.

You should email blizzard these ideas.
NostalgiaTag
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada508 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 20:06:40
October 13 2011 20:04 GMT
#7
On October 14 2011 05:00 Aruno wrote:
What I want out of Diablo 3. Bunch of friends all play hardcore mode, play for 5hrs all from the same time. After 5 hrs is up, all players must meet in battle arena for a fight to the death.
Free for all :D

Or if it's allowed, then a hardcore arena battles in which you hero doesn't actually die if you lose, then it can be 1v1 1 round sets till the finals 3 round set.

I'd also like to do races, like pick a hero. Race to complete the whole game. Who ever is fastest wins!

That'd be fun, and even could be ranked world wide :D

Imagine:
Samwise | D3 completion time record | 6hrs 21mins 32seconds |
Nubslayer | D3 completion record | 5hrs 50mins 22seconds |

Woot competition


The idea of Hardcore pvp has been discussed with Jay Wilson before, he say's they are going back and forth with how they want to do it. I think they will eventully have a choice between the 2, however have huge disclaimers about the permanent death pvp haha. "Those guys are crazy" as he would say.
Look for the flaw that lost the game not the flaw in the game.
Aruno
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand748 Posts
October 13 2011 20:31 GMT
#8
On October 14 2011 05:04 Tag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 05:00 Aruno wrote:
What I want out of Diablo 3. Bunch of friends all play hardcore mode, play for 5hrs all from the same time. After 5 hrs is up, all players must meet in battle arena for a fight to the death.
Free for all :D

Or if it's allowed, then a hardcore arena battles in which you hero doesn't actually die if you lose, then it can be 1v1 1 round sets till the finals 3 round set.

I'd also like to do races, like pick a hero. Race to complete the whole game. Who ever is fastest wins!

That'd be fun, and even could be ranked world wide :D

Imagine:
Samwise | D3 completion time record | 6hrs 21mins 32seconds |
Nubslayer | D3 completion record | 5hrs 50mins 22seconds |

Woot competition


The idea of Hardcore pvp has been discussed with Jay Wilson before, he say's they are going back and forth with how they want to do it. I think they will eventully have a choice between the 2, however have huge disclaimers about the permanent death pvp haha. "Those guys are crazy" as he would say.

Jay Wilson is most likely in the WoW mind set then. To unwilling to risk everything in a fight. So what if you worked 2 years on the perfect hero?
I want to fight you, come on. Put up your dukes little man.

Anyway, as long as it's consensual fighting, then it's fine in my eyes.
aruno, arunoaj, aruno_aj | Those are my main aliases
NostalgiaTag
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada508 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 20:44:48
October 13 2011 20:42 GMT
#9
On October 14 2011 05:31 Aruno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 05:04 Tag wrote:
On October 14 2011 05:00 Aruno wrote:
What I want out of Diablo 3. Bunch of friends all play hardcore mode, play for 5hrs all from the same time. After 5 hrs is up, all players must meet in battle arena for a fight to the death.
Free for all :D

Or if it's allowed, then a hardcore arena battles in which you hero doesn't actually die if you lose, then it can be 1v1 1 round sets till the finals 3 round set.

I'd also like to do races, like pick a hero. Race to complete the whole game. Who ever is fastest wins!

That'd be fun, and even could be ranked world wide :D

Imagine:
Samwise | D3 completion time record | 6hrs 21mins 32seconds |
Nubslayer | D3 completion record | 5hrs 50mins 22seconds |

Woot competition


The idea of Hardcore pvp has been discussed with Jay Wilson before, he say's they are going back and forth with how they want to do it. I think they will eventully have a choice between the 2, however have huge disclaimers about the permanent death pvp haha. "Those guys are crazy" as he would say.

Jay Wilson is most likely in the WoW mind set then. To unwilling to risk everything in a fight. So what if you worked 2 years on the perfect hero?
I want to fight you, come on. Put up your dukes little man.

Anyway, as long as it's consensual fighting, then it's fine in my eyes.


I dunno about the WoW mind set, I think its more "Protect the player from them self" mindset. The same argument is made for selling RMAH items on Hardcore to prevent people from blowing 100$ on gear then lose it soon after and blameing Blizzard. Even if its consentual it's protection from ourselves. =P

Edit: Additionaly the amount of people in Hardcore would diminish dramatically if PvP deaths was activated. Imagine in 2 years blizzard say's ya were gonna implement this in. The next day the population of Hardcore goes down 80%. Could be dangerous for the game.
Look for the flaw that lost the game not the flaw in the game.
Aruno
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 20:55:09
October 13 2011 20:54 GMT
#10
On October 14 2011 05:42 Tag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 05:31 Aruno wrote:
On October 14 2011 05:04 Tag wrote:
On October 14 2011 05:00 Aruno wrote:
What I want out of Diablo 3. Bunch of friends all play hardcore mode, play for 5hrs all from the same time. After 5 hrs is up, all players must meet in battle arena for a fight to the death.
Free for all :D

Or if it's allowed, then a hardcore arena battles in which you hero doesn't actually die if you lose, then it can be 1v1 1 round sets till the finals 3 round set.

I'd also like to do races, like pick a hero. Race to complete the whole game. Who ever is fastest wins!

That'd be fun, and even could be ranked world wide :D

Imagine:
Samwise | D3 completion time record | 6hrs 21mins 32seconds |
Nubslayer | D3 completion record | 5hrs 50mins 22seconds |

Woot competition


The idea of Hardcore pvp has been discussed with Jay Wilson before, he say's they are going back and forth with how they want to do it. I think they will eventully have a choice between the 2, however have huge disclaimers about the permanent death pvp haha. "Those guys are crazy" as he would say.

Jay Wilson is most likely in the WoW mind set then. To unwilling to risk everything in a fight. So what if you worked 2 years on the perfect hero?
I want to fight you, come on. Put up your dukes little man.

Anyway, as long as it's consensual fighting, then it's fine in my eyes.


I dunno about the WoW mind set, I think its more "Protect the player from them self" mindset. The same argument is made for selling RMAH items on Hardcore to prevent people from blowing 100$ on gear then lose it soon after and blameing Blizzard. Even if its consentual it's protection from ourselves. =P

Edit: Additionaly the amount of people in Hardcore would diminish dramatically if PvP deaths was activated. Imagine in 2 years blizzard say's ya were gonna implement this in. The next day the population of Hardcore goes down 80%. Could be dangerous for the game.


Um, I thought PvP was a different area. Like you had to login specifically to PvP mode? Or can you switch it on in the middle of PvE???? Thus a choice to enter PvP. Not like allowing PvP death in hardcore mode, is suddenly going to make people instantly play PvP with their long time character.

I don't like the protect the player from themselves mindset. Make people suffer for their foolishness I say. SUFFER!!! * Shakes fist dramatically at sky*
aruno, arunoaj, aruno_aj | Those are my main aliases
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
October 13 2011 21:32 GMT
#11
id buy diablo 3 just for hardcore pvp, so manly
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
R0YAL
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1768 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 21:39:03
October 13 2011 21:38 GMT
#12

I really want HC PvP to be permanent death. So does Jay Wilson but he says that the other guys aren't in favor of it. As of right now its not permanent death, but Jay Wilson said that hes really pushing for it even if they implement it post release.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
October 13 2011 22:08 GMT
#13
PvM scenarios like a Castle Siege sounds interesting, special maps, although I seriously doubt if Blizzard would release the map editor for this, which leaves them making their own maps. They make a lot of new content for WoW, I wonder if they´ll make the same for D3.
:3
Tomcattomato
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands95 Posts
October 13 2011 22:27 GMT
#14
One way to solve this hardcore permanent death business is to just "demote" the character to non-hardcore status.
I think Path of Exile has (or is planning) a system not much different from that.

Yes, it might take away from the "manliness" of betting your character and possibly losing it for good, but there'd still be some prestige for having a character with hardcore status with an X amount of PvP wins.
Malkavian183
Profile Joined February 2011
Turkey227 Posts
October 13 2011 22:41 GMT
#15
Castle Siege is an awesome idea. I always dreamed things like that. It would be incredibly fun imo.

It would also be great to have a very large PvP arena with constantly spawning monsters in it. Every man for himself and everyman against increasingly powerful waves of creatures. That would be a real test of skill and strategy.
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NostalgiaTag
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada508 Posts
October 13 2011 22:42 GMT
#16
On October 14 2011 07:27 Tomcattomato wrote:
One way to solve this hardcore permanent death business is to just "demote" the character to non-hardcore status.
I think Path of Exile has (or is planning) a system not much different from that.

Yes, it might take away from the "manliness" of betting your character and possibly losing it for good, but there'd still be some prestige for having a character with hardcore status with an X amount of PvP wins.


This is an idea and something that may work but then you may come across the situation where people find a "wind force" on hardcore and suicide just to get the item to normal difficulty to be able to make a buck. And it defeats the point of hardcore, in a way. DEAD IS DEAD
Look for the flaw that lost the game not the flaw in the game.
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 22:54:16
October 13 2011 22:50 GMT
#17
On October 14 2011 05:00 Aruno wrote:
What I want out of Diablo 3. Bunch of friends all play hardcore mode, play for 5hrs all from the same time. After 5 hrs is up, all players must meet in battle arena for a fight to the death.
Free for all :D

Or if it's allowed, then a hardcore arena battles in which you hero doesn't actually die if you lose, then it can be 1v1 1 round sets till the finals 3 round set.

I'd also like to do races, like pick a hero. Race to complete the whole game. Who ever is fastest wins!

That'd be fun, and even could be ranked world wide :D

Imagine:
Samwise | D3 completion time record | 6hrs 21mins 32seconds |
Nubslayer | D3 completion record | 5hrs 50mins 22seconds |

Woot competition


You mean a speedrun? You might enjoy SDA :

http://speeddemosarchive.com/
There's also TAS (tool-assisted speedruns)
http://tasvideos.org/


And here's some stuff that might get you pumped for future D3 runs.

Diablo done in 0:03:12 :
http://speeddemosarchive.com/Diablo.html

Diablo 2 done in 0:58:52 (normal only). Or all 3 difficulties + quests (including cows) in 4:22 :
http://speeddemosarchive.com/Diablo2LoD.html

Of course with the limits on teleport it will be quite different but the Diablo series are fun to speed run. So much randomization you can manipulate.






*edit :

But yeah I agree with OP. It would be fun to have such content in the end-game. Just brings another level to the game once you get bored of farming and allows you to get a quick game with friends.
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Mr. Nefarious
Profile Joined December 2010
United States515 Posts
October 13 2011 23:03 GMT
#18
You know whats cool? Path of Exile already has support for custom leagues, being able to create a custom set of rules that everyone in the world plays by, etc etc. Hardcore PvP already announced.... so far IMHO the graphics are better than D3 and so are how items and skill tree work. If you like Hack and Slash games sign up for the closed PoE beta. I have to say after playing both, DIII just feels like a noob fest where PoE is actually HARD, rewarding and insanely deep.

www.pathofexile.com
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dtvu
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia687 Posts
October 13 2011 23:31 GMT
#19
Unlimited dungeon sounds cool, especially if we can get better and higher quality items the further we go. This is great incentive to play as team so you can go further and have your builds to fit differents roles.
Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
October 14 2011 00:02 GMT
#20
Perma death would be sick. I hate how games coddle players now a days and would love to have that sort of investment in a game.
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