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On March 23 2011 23:14 Dac wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2011 23:01 infinity2k9 wrote:
A 16 person tournament limited to just NA people, why? Plus they are calling it a proleague which is misleading since there's nothing about teams and it's not even all pro's :/
Also it's YET AGAIN just an invitational. I seriously doubt this is the top 16 players that would end up if you had an NA open qualifiers, i know guys who can beat some people on this list 60% of the time. Yet oh they aren't 'well known' so no chance. Might as well just give IdrA the top prize now. You can only hope that overtime things balance out for the better players. NASL is looking a bit better in terms of openness now, no  ?
What people fail to take into account is the fact that this may well not be the true "league" per say. Its very possible that it is just a 'hype machine' , very similar to what Clash of the Titans was for NASL.
Just a speculative opinion though.
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On March 23 2011 11:21 motioncity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2011 08:32 hmunkey wrote:
Too many leagues now. These companies should get together and sponsor a larger league or multiple seasons of one, but having 3+ major leagues is a bit silly.
I can't really think of one legitimate sport that has leagues upon leagues. i think the worlds most popular sport, soccer, is a legitimate sport that has several leagues
There are indeed "several leagues", but that's because of location. It wouldn't make sense for the German team to compete in the African leagues, for instance.
All "multiple leagues" within a country are based on skill, some subdivisions are based on age (e.g. <18, <21). It's as if there was a league for bronze, silver, gold, diamond players as well and I don't see that happening for SC2 in EU/NA.
Some people here claim players could easily compete in both leagues, but I doubt it. 1) We may see something like Zotac vs Go4SC2 (iirc), conflicting time schedules, whether intended or not, 2) contracts prohibiting players to play in other leagues or simply 3) higher pay/prizes in one league, attracting the best players, making the other big league(s) become 2nd class.
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Wow first NASL and now this... Europe is lacking big Leagues ...
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On March 23 2011 23:40 Tigi wrote:
Wow first NASL and now this... Europe is leaking big Leagues ...
Leaking? Do you mean 'lacking', by any chance?
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On March 23 2011 23:41 Dagobert wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2011 23:40 Tigi wrote:
Wow first NASL and now this... Europe is leaking big Leagues ... Leaking? Do you mean 'lacking', by any chance?
Oups sry
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Holy shit this is huuuuuuuuuuuge!
If this is a team league as this name suggests then my mind will be blown even more.
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Interesting.
Out of curiosity though, can someone explain why this thread became front page news here considering the only article he cited as a source (when that occurred) was posted here by evoli and that thread was locked immediately by an admin for not "having enough facts?"
It would seem to me evoli was treated unfairly since he broke the story first, just like he did with the NASL :/
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On March 23 2011 23:37 Dagobert wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2011 11:21 motioncity wrote:On March 23 2011 08:32 hmunkey wrote:
Too many leagues now. These companies should get together and sponsor a larger league or multiple seasons of one, but having 3+ major leagues is a bit silly.
I can't really think of one legitimate sport that has leagues upon leagues. i think the worlds most popular sport, soccer, is a legitimate sport that has several leagues There are indeed "several leagues", but that's because of location. It wouldn't make sense for the German team to compete in the African leagues, for instance. All "multiple leagues" within a country are based on skill, some subdivisions are based on age (e.g. <18, <21). It's as if there was a league for bronze, silver, gold, diamond players as well and I don't see that happening for SC2 in EU/NA.
What about pro boxing? WBC, WBO, IBF, WBA? Everyone of those has a "league" for all the different weight classes, and they all crown their own world champions and basically do the same.
On March 23 2011 23:37 Dagobert wrote:
Some people here claim players could easily compete in both leagues, but I doubt it. 1) We may see something like Zotac vs Go4SC2 (iirc), conflicting time schedules, whether intended or not, 2) contracts prohibiting players to play in other leagues or simply 3) higher pay/prizes in one league, attracting the best players, making the other big league(s) become 2nd class.
Why would that be the problem? Follow the league with the best players in it, forget about the other one, problem solved. I think the only problem that can evolve due to too many tournaments is that the good players are spread between multiple leagues and there is not some kind of the big thing where everybody competes against each other, which is quite the opposite of what you described. I don't think we are that point though, and I think too much big money being thrown around is the least of Esports' problems.
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How do you guys even know the 16 players listed are a complete list?
Maybe they're still working on invites and confirmations and getting more profiles up. Relax. The league hasn't even officially been announced yet and you people are criticizing the hell out of it.
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So, no europeans/koreans ? That's not really clever.. I'd rather watch an international event like TSL, the level is much higher
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Woah, that's a huge prizepool!
But, if it's just for NA-players, the league will be kind of boring, let's hope there'll be other players too. 
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On March 24 2011 00:12 Staklet wrote:Woah, that's a huge prizepool! But, if it's just for NA-players, the league will be kind of boring, let's hope there'll be other players too.
yeah they are only two good NA players Tyler and Idra :D.
Ah well lets wait for the official announcement. I really hope for Proleague :D
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You also have to understand that theres a lacking of purely talented players because they do not have the chance to make a living based off this game such as people in Korea. With this large amount of money pouring into the North America scene, I would hope that peoples talent grows greatly soon.
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On March 23 2011 23:50 Ayush_SCtoss wrote:
Holy shit this is huuuuuuuuuuuge!
If this is a team league as this name suggests then my mind will be blown even more.
I'm not sure calling it proleague has anything to do with it being teams unfortunately.
On March 24 2011 00:25 likeaboss wrote:
You also have to understand that theres a lacking of purely talented players because they do not have the chance to make a living based off this game such as people in Korea. With this large amount of money pouring into the North America scene, I would hope that peoples talent grows greatly soon.
High prize money doesn't = talented players. If anything it just means all the money goes to a few people. We need more team sponsors actually paying salaries to make this actually sustainable. If IGN sponsored a new team, THAT would be a good thing. But this; I don't see how it helps anyone else but the current top players at all. Players can't live off prize money. That model will never work.
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There is literally no point of forming a team unless that team has tournaments to compete in. Tournaments have to come first, teams will follow.
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Happy that more corporations are investing in e-sport!
TeamLiquid shall dominate!
Oh god, if e-sport becomes legit in North America and TeamLiquid is like the SKT T1 of western world...lmao, we joined TL when this site is just for browsing Korean Brood War news and strategies...
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only NA ... not very itneresting to me
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This is a huge prizepool, and on top of that I'm sure that IGN's status will be able to spread the knowledge of the eSport world. This is awesome :D
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