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ch4ppi
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany802 Posts
February 03 2011 15:52 GMT
#61
Get well soon!
Isomer
Profile Joined November 2010
United States186 Posts
February 03 2011 15:52 GMT
#62
where's a medivac when you need one

Get better soon demuslim!
There's nothing cooler than being proud of what you love
MrPello
Profile Joined October 2009
Sweden187 Posts
February 03 2011 15:53 GMT
#63
He should have scouted better
paradoxOO9
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1123 Posts
February 03 2011 15:55 GMT
#64
True Brit right there Get well soon
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-03 15:55:27
February 03 2011 15:55 GMT
#65
I hope he gets well soon. Something like this could seriously hamper his practice and hurt EG as a whole.

Incontrol should teach each EG member to defend themselves :D.

snafulator
Profile Joined January 2011
Antigua/Barbuda72 Posts
February 03 2011 15:56 GMT
#66
On February 04 2011 00:55 paradoxOO9 wrote:
True Brit right there Get well soon


pls explain why gettin beaten up and end in the hospital with broken arm is a true brit?

i dont understand.. lol
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
February 03 2011 15:57 GMT
#67
yes lets all live boring lives and act like true professionals. Telling me that youve never gone out been in wrong place at wrong time and nearly been in a scrap or do you not actually go out? Happens all the time, my mate who you would call professional was out with his grilfriend and this guy kept badgering onto his girlfriends, my mate asks this guy to leave them alone nicely, and the guy started swinging, you get these guys everywhere, they just want to cause problems for others.

None of us know the true story of how this happened, could of been like 3 guys starting on Demulsim and he was trying to get away, he also could of smacked one or he could of got a kick in on the ground.. done judge and act all high and mighty till we know all the facts, if he was swinging round a lampost then you can comment about being a true professional.
Live and Let Die!
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
February 03 2011 15:57 GMT
#68
On February 04 2011 00:45 emythrel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2011 00:30 MichaelJLowell wrote:
On February 04 2011 00:27 ranjutan wrote:
On February 04 2011 00:20 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Sucks alot but headlines like this do not make him seem very professional though.


Yes a true professional would never go out drinking. I mean who ever heard of a businessman going out drinking???
I am appalled.

So "going out drinking and getting into fights" (how the fight started is completely unimportant) is now professional behavior?


So sportsmen and women never go out and get drunk then do something they regret in the morning? I know my fav Striker Jermaine Defoe has done that on multiple occasions..... he's been out with an ankle injury from falling over while drunk before now...

I could list off god knows how many professional sportmen, businessmen, politicians, musicians (including me) who have gotten into a fight while drunk and not been able to work for a few weeks with some kinds of injury.

Its not unprofessional to be human, they have lives that we don't have a part in.... they play this game for themselves, not for you. your judgements about their behaviour won't stop them from doing what they want, nor should it


there is a difference, a musician that cant sing for a month is no biggie because after the month he can just start again.
If a soccer player gets into a barfight and breaks his leg that is just retarded - he probably destroyed his whole life at that point for a night having fun. And it doesnt fucking matter why there was a fight - in 99.99% of the cases you could have avoided it.

Same is true for Demuslim case, esports and anything that involves skill and practice, it was just stupid it would be kinda funny if eg kicked him out of the team for it because bad PR.
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
February 03 2011 15:57 GMT
#69
That's unfortunate. This can always happen when you're going out drinking, hope he gets better soon.

Whoever talked about being professional: Right. Pro Gamers that go out drinking are horrible persons. lol. Who doesn't go out in this age? It's not like he is the president, he is an e-sportler.
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
February 03 2011 16:00 GMT
#70
Nice to see the good old British brual is being honord in Germany hehe, get well soon younger bro
FlashDave.999 aka Star
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
February 03 2011 16:00 GMT
#71
I bet Demuslim clicking everything is still like a 3000 point Master leaguer.
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
February 03 2011 16:01 GMT
#72
On February 04 2011 00:51 smileyyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2011 00:46 niteReloaded wrote:
I had some fights in my life, but only once I had it when I went out, and that's because I was being a total idiot, so my guess is he deserved it.



I had some fights in my life, but only once I had it when I went out, and that's becauce the other guy was being a total idiot, so my guess is he didnt deserve it.


my point is that many times you can be a bigger man and resolve things without fighting.

That's why I only had 1 fight, and that 1 fight could've been avoided if the other guy realized I was an idiot and simply beaten me with words or wit or something.

Fistfighting is really really unneccessary in most cases imo.
Airship
Profile Joined August 2010
United States465 Posts
February 03 2011 16:02 GMT
#73
Well it's a shame, but I feel strangely patriotic about this
purecarnagge
Profile Joined August 2010
719 Posts
February 03 2011 16:04 GMT
#74
disability insurance.
Rakkat
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom69 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-03 16:05:04
February 03 2011 16:04 GMT
#75
I can't imagine he'd have carried on with his night out if he'd been in an actual fistfight, I think some people are reading too far into this.

Hope it's not too bad and he makes a speedy recovery, love watching him play.
"I have just narrowly avoided having a buggering, and have come in here with the express intention of wishing one upon you."
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-03 16:06:09
February 03 2011 16:04 GMT
#76
On February 04 2011 00:30 MichaelJLowell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2011 00:27 ranjutan wrote:
On February 04 2011 00:20 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Sucks alot but headlines like this do not make him seem very professional though.


Yes a true professional would never go out drinking. I mean who ever heard of a businessman going out drinking???
I am appalled.

So "going out drinking and getting into fights" (how the fight started is completely unimportant) is now professional behavior?

I somehow have the impression that the only ones whining about professionalism in these kind of scenarios are the ones who never had to be professional in the first place, I'm sure Demuslim is halting the growth of e-sports as well, right?

As good as TL is in some ways there's a part of it I really, really cannot understand. What do you want gamers to be, nuns? Hm, I guess not, nuns can drink wine can't they? Ditto for businessmen and politicians. I guess they should be above all others, never drink, never fight, never cuss... Meh, I'm ranting.

Anyway, hope he gets better. One of the few Ts I really enjoy watching, but this could mean there'll be a lot of Demuslim commentary..? :O
MichaelJLowell
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States610 Posts
February 03 2011 16:05 GMT
#77
On February 04 2011 00:45 emythrel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2011 00:30 MichaelJLowell wrote:
On February 04 2011 00:27 ranjutan wrote:
On February 04 2011 00:20 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Sucks alot but headlines like this do not make him seem very professional though.


Yes a true professional would never go out drinking. I mean who ever heard of a businessman going out drinking???
I am appalled.

So "going out drinking and getting into fights" (how the fight started is completely unimportant) is now professional behavior?


So sportsmen and women never go out and get drunk then do something they regret in the morning? I know my fav Striker Jermaine Defoe has done that on multiple occasions..... he's been out with an ankle injury from falling over while drunk before now...

I could list off god knows how many professional sportmen, businessmen, politicians, musicians (including me) who have gotten into a fight while drunk and not been able to work for a few weeks with some kinds of injury.

Its not unprofessional to be human, they have lives that we don't have a part in.... they play this game for themselves, not for you. your judgements about their behaviour won't stop them from doing what they want, nor should it

If an athlete goes out and drinks and "does something they regret in the morning", then yes, they're absolute complete idiots. Especially when other people have invested a lot of time and money in you, enough time and money that most of those employers set up very convenient ways to void your services if "LOL I WAS DRUKN LAST NITE N FUUU I BROKE MY HAND". DeMusliM should be thankful that EG isn't telling him to go find another team to play for.

On February 04 2011 00:49 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2011 00:42 MichaelJLowell wrote:
On February 04 2011 00:36 meRz wrote:
On February 04 2011 00:30 MichaelJLowell wrote:
On February 04 2011 00:27 ranjutan wrote:
On February 04 2011 00:20 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Sucks alot but headlines like this do not make him seem very professional though.


Yes a true professional would never go out drinking. I mean who ever heard of a businessman going out drinking???
I am appalled.

So "going out drinking and getting into fights" (how the fight started is completely unimportant) is now professional behavior?


Getting into a fight can happen to anyone, I mean if you encounter a drunk moron who really wants to fight there's like very little you can do to prevent it other than getting the hell out of there asap. Don't be so judgemental, shit happends, people drink, DemusliM always acts superb and manner in front of the cameras.

I don't buy "shit happens, people drink" as an excuse. Now yes, I am being judgmental. But that's because regardless of whether he instigated the situation or not and did everything he could to avoid fighting or not, he now has a broken hand to show for it. He now has to wait for the thing to heal until he can continue supporting himself. If I was one of the team managers, I'd be rightly pissed.

I'm not going to go as far as to say that DeMusliM should lock himself in his room and never leave the thing again, but there's a risk associated with what he did. You can debate how much of a risk there is, but there was one.


So he should never cross the street either, since there is a risk he'll get run over. Probably shouldnt take a shower either since there is a risk he will slip and fall over and in the shower that might very well kill him with floors usually being quite hard and what not. Do you realise how silly you sound?

Yes, you can extrapolate that situation to its clearly ridiculous and absurd extremes if you'd like.

On February 04 2011 00:49 Tanith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2011 00:42 MichaelJLowell wrote:
On February 04 2011 00:36 meRz wrote:
On February 04 2011 00:30 MichaelJLowell wrote:
On February 04 2011 00:27 ranjutan wrote:
On February 04 2011 00:20 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Sucks alot but headlines like this do not make him seem very professional though.


Yes a true professional would never go out drinking. I mean who ever heard of a businessman going out drinking???
I am appalled.

So "going out drinking and getting into fights" (how the fight started is completely unimportant) is now professional behavior?



Getting into a fight can happen to anyone, I mean if you encounter a drunk moron who really wants to fight there's like very little you can do to prevent it other than getting the hell out of there asap. Don't be so judgemental, shit happends, people drink, DemusliM always acts superb and manner in front of the cameras.

I don't buy "shit happens, people drink" as an excuse. Now yes, I am being judgmental. But that's because regardless of whether he instigated the situation or not and did everything he could to avoid fighting or not, he now has a broken hand to show for it. He now has to wait for the thing to heal until he can continue supporting himself. If I was one of the team managers, I'd be rightly pissed.


what are you serious??? basically what your saying is its his own fault for having a life and being out in the real world, so lets say it wasn't a fight and he was out drinking and got mugged on the way home. by your fucking moronic logic would that be same or different to you ?

I'm sure some people live in a bubble void of what actually happens in the real world!

"LOL HE HAS A LIFE" and "LOL I GOT DRUKN" aren't excuses. EG pays him a fair sum of money to not have a life.
http://www.learntocounter.com - I'm a "known troll" so please disconnect your kid's computer when I am on the forums.
MuteZephyr
Profile Joined August 2010
Lithuania448 Posts
February 03 2011 16:06 GMT
#78
That's a shame, at least IEM won't be a problem. Get better demuslim!

I'm sure they came out on top in their "skirmish". :D
I don't Micro, I FEMTO. That's 9 orders of magnitude more extreme.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
February 03 2011 16:07 GMT
#79
On February 04 2011 00:42 MichaelJLowell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2011 00:36 meRz wrote:
On February 04 2011 00:30 MichaelJLowell wrote:
On February 04 2011 00:27 ranjutan wrote:
On February 04 2011 00:20 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Sucks alot but headlines like this do not make him seem very professional though.


Yes a true professional would never go out drinking. I mean who ever heard of a businessman going out drinking???
I am appalled.

So "going out drinking and getting into fights" (how the fight started is completely unimportant) is now professional behavior?



Getting into a fight can happen to anyone, I mean if you encounter a drunk moron who really wants to fight there's like very little you can do to prevent it other than getting the hell out of there asap. Don't be so judgemental, shit happends, people drink, DemusliM always acts superb and manner in front of the cameras.

I don't buy "shit happens, people drink" as an excuse. Now yes, I am being judgmental. But that's because regardless of whether he instigated the situation or not and did everything he could to avoid fighting or not, he now has a broken hand to show for it. He now has to wait for the thing to heal until he can continue supporting himself. If I was one of the team managers, I'd be rightly pissed.

I'm not going to go as far as to say that DeMusliM should lock himself in his room and never leave the thing again, but there's a risk associated with what he did. You can debate how much of a risk there is, but there was one.



It's a good thing it doesn't matter that you're judging him. He's a young guy, things like this are going to happen. I don't blame him for getting into a fight, if that were me I would have done the same thing.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
February 03 2011 16:07 GMT
#80
On February 04 2011 01:01 niteReloaded wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2011 00:51 smileyyy wrote:
On February 04 2011 00:46 niteReloaded wrote:
I had some fights in my life, but only once I had it when I went out, and that's because I was being a total idiot, so my guess is he deserved it.



I had some fights in my life, but only once I had it when I went out, and that's becauce the other guy was being a total idiot, so my guess is he didnt deserve it.


my point is that many times you can be a bigger man and resolve things without fighting.

That's why I only had 1 fight, and that 1 fight could've been avoided if the other guy realized I was an idiot and simply beaten me with words or wit or something.

Fistfighting is really really unneccessary in most cases imo.


My point is. If you run into some idiots in a bar. Who are actually looking for fight just because they can and its fun for them. You wont get out of there without a fight. Since neither of us was there we dont now what actually happened so saying things like "he deserved" is totally uncalled for.


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