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On January 21 2011 06:36 Odoakar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2011 06:34 iNcontroL wrote:On January 21 2011 06:27 Odoakar wrote:
I don't understand why people put EG on the same level as these other teams when EG has absolutely no players as good as some of the players in these other teams. Idra of course excluded. Yeah, they have good players, but when did any of them win something in SC2? They are at best an average team.
Edit:ok, I forgot that they just picked up Demuslim, who is quite a player, but these are the accomplishments of other EG players:
LZGamer: 2010 MSI Evil Geniuses Masters Cup #1
Machine: 2010 iCCup TV League US Grand Prix #1
And that's it. Idra, and now Demuslim, are actually keeping EG looking like an good team, rather than mediocre.
What? lol no.. not at all. In fact both the "accomplishments" you stated aren't even accurate. Then it seems TLPD sucks? Here's a challenge for everyone...find one EG player in this list, except Idra (and in mind that Demuslim earned his medals while outside of EG) + Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Ticon.png) SjoW ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/common/gold.png) 20 ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/common/silver.png) 6 ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Zicon.png) MorroW 11 9 Kas 9 5 Strelok 9 3 Tarson 8 5 ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Picon.png) NaNiwa 8 4 Socke 7 4 HuK 7 4 MaNa 6 7 GoOdy 6 5 DIMAGA 5 6 Naama 5 4 BRAT_OK 5 2 SeleCt 4 4 KiWiKaKi 4 3 NightEnd 4 0 IdrA 3 3 Satiini 3 1 Adel 3 1 ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Ricon.png) TLO 3 0 HasuObs 2 4 QXC 2 3 LucifroN 2 3 ClouD 2 3 Ret 2 1 Fenix 2 1 AhhBoxxah 2 1 DeathAngel 2 0 Drewbie 2 0 control 2 0 DdoRo 2 0 Jimpo 1 5 DarKFoRcE 1 4 meRz 1 4 Tefel 1 2 Naugrim 1 2 mkengyn 1 2 HayprO 1 2 MurDeR 1 2 DeMusliM 1 2 Nerchio 1 2 White-Ra 1 2 Slider 1 2 iNSoLeNCE 1 2 Bly 1 1 Spades 1 1 Lastshadow 1 1 Funkyy 1 1 Beastyqt 1 1 TT1 1 1 optikzero 1 1 Ryze 1 Rigid 1 KiLLeR 1 FruitDealer 1 ThorZaIN 1 Skillet 1 Silver 1 PredY 1 PainUser 1 Jinro 1 Fan 1 CNBgrtmn 1 Tyler 1 Sein 1 Levin 1 KroLu 1 Genius 1 bigbadbeaver 1
Wait.. That's like 90% europeans?
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On January 21 2011 06:53 Dionyseus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2011 06:09 dizzy101 wrote:
Very nice pickup, arguably EU's #1 or #2 Protoss Who's the other top 2 protoss in EU?
White-ra...
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On January 21 2011 06:52 ptbl wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2011 06:47 Backpack wrote:On January 21 2011 06:41 ptbl wrote:On January 21 2011 06:35 Whiplash wrote:On January 21 2011 06:29 ptbl wrote:On January 21 2011 06:25 syllogism wrote:
He recently mentioned Empire didn't feel like a team as the team is "kind of spread out". Now he'll have at least a bunch of good Swedes to play with (Merz, Sjow, Bischu) Hmm interesting. Team Liquid is spread out, they have Tyler and Nazgul in the U.S., TLO in Europe, and Huk, Jinro, Ret, and Haypro in Korea. Even though they are spread out, they still have team spirit, which was demonstrated at MLG Dallas. Liquid doesn't have a language barrier, all of them speak english. Gratz to Naniwa, I hope he he will have a better practice environment and can take a shot at the next GSL. I thought he was referring to the geography when he said they were "spread out." Haypro and Nazgul are also both in europe. With the exception of Tyler they have two chunks of players who are local. Although Nazgul doesn't really play much, i'm sure he practices with Haypro and TLO. Haypro is going back to Korea after his tournament appearances in the Homestory, Pokeridol, and XMG tournaments. I thought Nazgul is located at Team Liquid's headquarters, which in NYC?
Didn't know about Haypro, but I feel sorry for Tyler and TLO then. They're abandoned D:
AFAIK the headquarters only houses Hot_Bid and R1CH
we're getting off-topic though ^^
I'm happy to see more foreign teams pick up the pace with recruiting and solid lineups.
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On January 21 2011 06:53 Dionyseus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2011 06:09 dizzy101 wrote:
Very nice pickup, arguably EU's #1 or #2 Protoss Who's the other top 2 protoss in EU?
Well, there's WhiteRa, Socke or Mana.
Though yeah I think you put Nani and WhiteRa above the other 2.
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wouldnt put a ladderhero over ppl who have performed offline, but hey..I guess this is what we do here now .....
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Bischu is a very strong protoss too, trust me.
Nightend is pretty decent too, same with ZeeRax or maybe HasuObs? insolence is ok too tho.
so there are many good protosses out there.
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On January 21 2011 06:15 hellsan631 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2011 06:07 busbarn wrote:
Naniwa left Empire and is confirmed to be joining dignitas.
This makes team dignitas look scary good, probably one of the best foreign teams now. Minus Liquid (Every member?), or Root (Catz, Mini, Kiwi, QXC, Drew), or EG(Machine, Inka, Incontrol, LZ), or Mouz(Morrow, Strelock, Mana, Hasu, Naama), or Fnatic(Kiwi, TT1, Fenix, Gretorp. Sen, Lucifrion)
He said one of the best: not the best.
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On January 21 2011 06:59 arnold(soTa) wrote:
wouldnt put a ladderhero over ppl who have performed offline, but hey..I guess this is what we do here now .....
He's hardly just a "ladder hero" given all his online tournament success recently...
Guaranteed representative @ TSL 3 too.
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Lets hope he gets to stay with Dignitas, at this point any european progamer who doesn't play terran is more than welcome to do well in tournament.
Even though I'm not a big Naniwa fan I must say that he seems to have improved quite a bit from his badmouthing, 4gating days.
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On January 21 2011 06:59 arnold(soTa) wrote:
wouldnt put a ladderhero over ppl who have performed offline, but hey..I guess this is what we do here now .....
Please tell me you're trolling.
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Nice to see strong teams forming outside of korea.
IMO Naniwa is bested only by whitera, who is on a roll as of lately. #2 EU toss for sure, socke hasnt been very convincing recently.
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Very nice team for sure! It's great to see a few foreign teams become good enough to rival some korean ones. When will we see international team wars? would be damn fun! 
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SJow, Select, Naniwa?
Goddamn, this is like pr0n for me! Hot, hot stuff!
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After all his mistakes i have very big doubts he'll change. And i wouldn't be surprised if he went to another team next month, either.
Well have fun Naniwa, i hope i'm wrong but can't believe that.
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Holy Crap! Isn't he MeatyOwlLegs?
Or am I confused here. Either way Go Dignitas!
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On January 21 2011 07:12 WhoaDrugs wrote:
Holy Crap! Isn't he MeatyOwlLegs?
Or am I confused here. Either way Go Dignitas!
Yep. That's his ladder account.
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Yes it is Meaty.
I wouldn't even say he is 'questionably' number 2 toss, I would say he just is.
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On January 21 2011 07:08 HolydaKing wrote:
And i wouldn't be surprised if he went to another team next month, either.
Why would he leave a team as stable as Dignitas? They seem to have the funding to send all their players to the biggest lans in the world. He has most likely written a contract as well so he can't just leave it, unless he screws up majorly I don't see how he can leave Dignitas in at least 6 months.
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Well hes been jumping teams, but besides that empire is getting picked apart... the real question is going to be who is gonna pick up kas
If he decides to leave empire as well
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EPT
