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[Interviews] TLAF-Liquid Winner(s) from GSL Ro64 - Page 5

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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
November 26 2010 07:39 GMT
#81
On November 26 2010 16:02 Drazzzt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 12:30 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On November 26 2010 10:09 Warrior Madness wrote:
I was not impressed with Moon's play at all (More impressed with the fact that he does this sc2 thing part time). With Ret to practice with, and depending on the map pool Jinro draws I wouldn't be surprised at all if he 2-0's him. And wow, good luck Ret it's gonna be a tough series for him. But if any zerg can overcome map imba it's ret.

Scrap Station, Xel Naga and Blistering Sands.....

Ah ok. What do you think about these maps? Scrap is widley considered as Zerg map, isn't it? even though Artosis keeps claiming that its layout is basically terran.

They are about as bad for me as the round 1 maps were bad for my opponent ;/
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Fushin
Profile Joined June 2010
France193 Posts
November 26 2010 08:46 GMT
#82
I really think the map pool is one of the biggest problem for sc2 right now. The fact that only blizzard can release ladder maps, and that they're quite lazy, doesn't help game balance/
There are already very nice maps done by ICCUP team and inspired by bw maps, but as long as there's only blizzard maps in 1v1 ladder, we probablè won't see them in any tournament and ppl won't train on them.

As said IdrA in his interview, right now the main danger his to face a tough opponent on the wrong maps.
xlnt
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden106 Posts
November 26 2010 08:46 GMT
#83
Both Jinro and Ret drawing bad maps >
You'll be fine though, just keep hwaaiiitiing!
roxxor?
ket-
Profile Joined April 2010
97 Posts
November 26 2010 08:48 GMT
#84
Yeah, maps are really too much of a deciding factor right now in matches I think. It's almost too easy to know who's gonna win when you see the map pool. It's ok to have maps that are a little bit favored for a race, but right now on some maps zerg can't do anything (Jungle Basin / Steppes) if opponent plays well, which is a bit duh.

I don't find Scrap a particularly zerg favored map though, it's clearly not a T/P favored map either but I don't think it really favors anyone apart from the one playing better. Are there statistics from GSL to be found that could prove me wrong/right?
HiyA is bestest.
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
November 26 2010 10:20 GMT
#85
very nice interview, thank you!

and i had to laugh at Ret starring at the korean female commentator, she's indeed pretty
Drazzzt
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany999 Posts
November 26 2010 11:33 GMT
#86
On November 26 2010 16:39 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 16:02 Drazzzt wrote:
On November 26 2010 12:30 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On November 26 2010 10:09 Warrior Madness wrote:
I was not impressed with Moon's play at all (More impressed with the fact that he does this sc2 thing part time). With Ret to practice with, and depending on the map pool Jinro draws I wouldn't be surprised at all if he 2-0's him. And wow, good luck Ret it's gonna be a tough series for him. But if any zerg can overcome map imba it's ret.

Scrap Station, Xel Naga and Blistering Sands.....

Ah ok. What do you think about these maps? Scrap is widley considered as Zerg map, isn't it? even though Artosis keeps claiming that its layout is basically terran.

They are about as bad for me as the round 1 maps were bad for my opponent ;/

Uah, that's bad to hear . I really hope you gonna make it though. Moon didn't impress me that much until now and I hope you are not intimidated by his name alone. I'm quite sure you are the better and definitely the more complete player.
Be Nice, Be Fair, Be Mannered.
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
November 26 2010 11:39 GMT
#87
On November 26 2010 16:39 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 16:02 Drazzzt wrote:
On November 26 2010 12:30 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On November 26 2010 10:09 Warrior Madness wrote:
I was not impressed with Moon's play at all (More impressed with the fact that he does this sc2 thing part time). With Ret to practice with, and depending on the map pool Jinro draws I wouldn't be surprised at all if he 2-0's him. And wow, good luck Ret it's gonna be a tough series for him. But if any zerg can overcome map imba it's ret.

Scrap Station, Xel Naga and Blistering Sands.....

Ah ok. What do you think about these maps? Scrap is widley considered as Zerg map, isn't it? even though Artosis keeps claiming that its layout is basically terran.

They are about as bad for me as the round 1 maps were bad for my opponent ;/


We'll all be cheering for you back home man! Go bash some nerds

Remember; The Moon is made out of cheese - True story! Watch out
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
nehl
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany270 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-26 13:35:51
November 26 2010 13:35 GMT
#88
On November 26 2010 16:39 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 16:02 Drazzzt wrote:
On November 26 2010 12:30 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On November 26 2010 10:09 Warrior Madness wrote:
I was not impressed with Moon's play at all (More impressed with the fact that he does this sc2 thing part time). With Ret to practice with, and depending on the map pool Jinro draws I wouldn't be surprised at all if he 2-0's him. And wow, good luck Ret it's gonna be a tough series for him. But if any zerg can overcome map imba it's ret.

Scrap Station, Xel Naga and Blistering Sands.....

Ah ok. What do you think about these maps? Scrap is widley considered as Zerg map, isn't it? even though Artosis keeps claiming that its layout is basically terran.

They are about as bad for me as the round 1 maps were bad for my opponent ;/

relally?
i feel like scraf is the only problematic map for terran
blistering is a horror for me playing vs terran. these watchtowers are aweful to hold. and xel naga caverns feels pretty balanced. was at least my feeling. but you are the pro of cause, so maby i just have no clue;)
anyways good luck u2
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25988 Posts
November 26 2010 15:55 GMT
#89
I think it's really cool that Ret's parents watched. Best part of the interview for me
Moderator
gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
November 26 2010 17:05 GMT
#90
Scrap is horrible for TvZ, and so is Blistering. Xel Naga is somewhat ok, I guess.
www.teamproperty.net | "You should hate losing, but you should never fear defeat." - 이윤열
IcyPringle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada210 Posts
November 26 2010 17:08 GMT
#91
Really looking forward to seeing Ret's next game, should have no problem practicing ZvT at all.

GL guys! Thanks for the intreviews!
SC2: IcyPringle.137 - Terran
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
November 26 2010 18:18 GMT
#92
On November 26 2010 17:48 ket- wrote:
Yeah, maps are really too much of a deciding factor right now in matches I think. It's almost too easy to know who's gonna win when you see the map pool. It's ok to have maps that are a little bit favored for a race, but right now on some maps zerg can't do anything (Jungle Basin / Steppes) if opponent plays well, which is a bit duh.

I don't find Scrap a particularly zerg favored map though, it's clearly not a T/P favored map either but I don't think it really favors anyone apart from the one playing better. Are there statistics from GSL to be found that could prove me wrong/right?


TvZ: 12-14 (46.2%) [ Games ]
ZvP: 4-5 (44.4%) [ Games ]
PvT: 10-12 (45.5%) [ Games ]

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/maps/382_Scrap_Station

seems balanced to me
Clearout
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1060 Posts
November 26 2010 23:37 GMT
#93
GL Jinro and Ret GSL is so exciting to watch with you guys there. Tough luck with the maps though
really?
Dox
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1199 Posts
November 27 2010 09:28 GMT
#94
Go Jinro!!! <3 <3
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khellian
Profile Joined February 2010
Korea (South)922 Posts
November 27 2010 19:52 GMT
#95
Liquid fighting!
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
November 27 2010 22:53 GMT
#96
Sounds like Ret enjoys tl hq a lot more than estro
has he at all compared them in an interview or anything?
Entusman #51
Helvig
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark55 Posts
November 28 2010 01:34 GMT
#97
So awesome to see both Ret and Jinro making it through! Great players, and I must say that I'm really impressed by Ret's incredible macro, and I'm sure it'll only improve from now on!

LIQUID FIGHTING!
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/291409/1/Helvig/ - Veni, vidi, vici
xiaoqinhhk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States3 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 07:37:44
November 28 2010 07:35 GMT
#98
AyJay
Profile Joined April 2010
1515 Posts
November 28 2010 09:38 GMT
#99
On November 26 2010 16:02 Drazzzt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 12:30 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On November 26 2010 10:09 Warrior Madness wrote:
I was not impressed with Moon's play at all (More impressed with the fact that he does this sc2 thing part time). With Ret to practice with, and depending on the map pool Jinro draws I wouldn't be surprised at all if he 2-0's him. And wow, good luck Ret it's gonna be a tough series for him. But if any zerg can overcome map imba it's ret.

Scrap Station, Xel Naga and Blistering Sands.....

Ah ok. What do you think about these maps? Scrap is widley considered as Zerg map, isn't it? even though Artosis keeps claiming that its layout is basically terran.

basically it's bad map pool for terran

and ret has bad map pool for zerg

Idra has steppes in his map pool and has very strong player to play against :/
xiaoqinhhq
Profile Joined November 2010
United States3 Posts
November 28 2010 10:06 GMT
#100
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