On November 16 2010 18:29 tyr wrote:
Didn't Gretech or Blizzard (I don't remember which) say that they didn't want any of this team-oriented stuff ?
I'm confused ...

I don't remember the full details, maybe it was kind of vague. My best guess is that they don't want E-Sports, well Starcraft 2 in particular, to be dominated by teams.

Crt

247 Posts

November 16 2010 09:33 GMT

#42

TL should form a team and participate in SC2 Proleagues. It'd be awesome if they have better record than ACE in SC1.

Gonodactylus

54 Posts

November 16 2010 09:34 GMT

#43

It's not strange to see people so confused. Kespa//KPGA happened because it was in the teams interest. The interests of the teams collide with the interests of Blizzard. That's why the Kespa/Blizzard war happened. Remember, Blizzard wants 50/50/0 in the order Blizzard, OGN/MBC and then Kespa/teams. Kespa wants 33/33/33.

This association will be better off with a 33/33/33 as well. They say they want approval of Blizzard. Sure, Kespa would want that too. But the thing is, they formed without asking Blizzard for permission and Blizzard indeed opposes the whole team-thing because teams can unite in an association and stand up for their own interests.

s.a.y

Croatia3840 Posts

November 16 2010 09:37 GMT

#44

SC2 proleague from GeSpa?

Sounds good.

KillerPlague

United States1386 Posts

November 16 2010 09:38 GMT

#45

On November 16 2010 17:29 mrdx wrote:

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You know what GeSPA means right? xD

plugged in to google translate and got grass? am i missing something lol

ReketSomething

United States6012 Posts

November 16 2010 09:38 GMT

#46

Wow...this is chaotic war...

Wondering how fans of both sc1 and 2 feel about all this jazz....which to watch...which to watch...having 2 major esports makes things very very interesting........

FliedLice

Germany7494 Posts

November 16 2010 09:40 GMT

#47

"oGs Park Sang Ik coach"

is that Spunky?

edit: and no oGs-Liquid team?

Selith

United States238 Posts

November 16 2010 09:45 GMT

#48

On November 16 2010 18:38 KillerPlague wrote:

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plugged in to google translate and got grass? am i missing something lol

GeSPA in Korean is 개스파, which is a way Koreans say KeSPA in an insulting tone. It pretty much means "bitch-kespa"

SoJu.WeRRa

Korea (South)820 Posts

November 16 2010 09:53 GMT

#49

Will see what happen but...

xBillehx

United States1289 Posts

November 16 2010 09:54 GMT

#50

On November 16 2010 18:40 FliedLice wrote:
"oGs Park Sang Ik coach"

is that Spunky?

edit: and no oGs-Liquid team?

It's

oGsTheWinD, and I think oGs will probably represent Liquid too given they're partners and Nazgul isn't in Korea. Though I guess it wouldn't hurt to see if Nazgul wants to get in on it. Dunno if he even knows about this yet.

Artisan

United States336 Posts

November 16 2010 10:54 GMT

#51

Hopefully this will help the sc2 esports scene grow, hoping for a proleague soon

10or10

Sweden517 Posts

November 16 2010 10:58 GMT

#52

On November 16 2010 18:16 SmoKim wrote:

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Liquid`Nazgul for president!!!!

that would be sooooo awesome ^____^

Yes, and EG must get their korean plans together before they miss the train - imagine two foreign teams in the heart of starcraft2-land.

Tasteless for their representative.

Archvil3

Denmark989 Posts

November 16 2010 11:03 GMT

#53

The main difference from KeSPA as I'm reading it is that you are not required to a part of or contracted with Korea StarCraft 2 Association to be a part of a team or enter tournaments.

This means they are not really in control of anything and wont ever be KeSPA 2.

I don't see any of this to be bad. It's meant to help players and teams, and if they dont, well the players and teams can just leave.

It's all looking fine to me.

ShadeR

Australia7535 Posts

November 16 2010 11:03 GMT

#54

KeSPA 2.0 you got LAN? XDD

salle

Sweden5554 Posts

November 16 2010 11:14 GMT

#55

I wish the players would form their own association/union so they can actually make demands. KeSPAs biggest flaw it seems to me is that it takes the interest of the sponsors over the interest of the players. which is okay... if there is a counter part.

m0nkeyknight

New Zealand37 Posts

November 16 2010 11:19 GMT

#56

beginning of the end?, I sure hope not, i kind of like how it is at the moment with the focus being on the players, and not their teams sponsors

Waxangel

United States33369 Posts

November 16 2010 11:19 GMT

#57

Well, KeSPA is essentially a team owners' association, and on paper so far I can't really tell how this new organization will be different. That they plan to have a players' association as well is good news, but I'm always skeptical about how much real power a PA has in any pro-sport

Ryo

8787 Posts

November 16 2010 11:23 GMT

#58

"Gamer's basic behavior education" sounds like the spring seminar that Kespa holds.

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

November 16 2010 11:36 GMT

#59

On November 16 2010 20:19 Waxangel wrote:
Well, KeSPA is essentially a team owners' association, and on paper so far I can't really tell how this new organization will be different. That they plan to have a players' association as well is good news, but I'm always skeptical about how much real power a PA has in any pro-sport

Yea this will be rather interesting. I must say the interview with the coach from ST did give me some faith that this will be different but only time will tell.

mustache

Switzerland309 Posts

November 16 2010 11:40 GMT

#60

On November 16 2010 17:30 Gonodactylus wrote:
Ooh wow Blizzard is going to love that.

Remember, Blizzard hates Kespa for different reasons people here do. Blizzard would hate kespa just as much if they were total saints. Interests just collide.

Blizzard will try to stop this before they get too powerful. Can't have something not under their control and this is exactly that.

Did you even read the OP? They are aiming to be blizzard approved and GOM is an ally of blizzard already.