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North America gets Go4SC2 Series - Page 2

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koolaid1990
Profile Joined September 2010
831 Posts
October 21 2010 01:41 GMT
#21
this is why starcraft will never be a sensation as it is in Korea, frekin 80,000 prize pool to 50 dollars..

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SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-21 02:04:38
October 21 2010 02:04 GMT
#22
So many of you are absolute morons.

Would you rather have no tournament at all? Its not like the majority of you complaining would even have a chance of winning a single dollar, even if the prize was $1,000,000. Jesus.

I, for one, am ecstatic that we're getting these cups. I've been waiting for some regular, automated tournaments for the NA scene. Now if only we could get Take commentating for these too :D.
IndridCold
Profile Joined August 2010
United States385 Posts
October 21 2010 02:13 GMT
#23
awesome news, despite some of the people that are disappointed at the prize pool. Its very cool to see esl bring the go4sc2cup to NA server as well. Will be nice for people to practice and get there name out there.
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-21 03:23:18
October 21 2010 03:01 GMT
#24
On October 21 2010 10:41 koolaid1990 wrote:
this is why starcraft will never be a sensation as it is in Korea, frekin 80,000 prize pool to 50 dollars..

My little sister organized a soccer game with her friends at the park. koolaid1990 drove by and yelled "this is why soccer will never be a sensation as it is in Europe, frekin Wembley Stadium to cones for goals.."

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Vindubs
Profile Joined May 2010
United States110 Posts
October 21 2010 03:27 GMT
#25
this is good for people who want a chance in atournament but arnt good enough to get all the way to Korea and live there...even at MLG u need to travel there. i work full time i cant just get up and go to dallas or DC. these tiny cups will bring a lot to the sport and allow people who otherwise cant get into tourneys get some play time. overall im glad

plus its weekly. so thats another positive.
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drekk
Profile Joined July 2010
91 Posts
October 21 2010 04:00 GMT
#26
Good news more weekly open cups always good for the community
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
October 21 2010 07:19 GMT
#27
These grass-root tournaments are very important for the community, don't fucking dismiss them just beacuse they have a small prize-pool. Just embrace the competition and the possibility of becoming a better and more well known player.
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AmiPolizeiFunk
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany804 Posts
October 21 2010 07:22 GMT
#28
Let's look at ESL Europe. Since release they have hosted the same type of cup series. Every Sunday cup offers 200 Euros to the winner. The end-of-the-month Final offers 500 Euros. That's about 5 times the size of what ESL is proposing for the NA Cups. The Euro cups have 1024 players every Sunday, requiring players to go for 7-8 hours straight. It's almost as packed on Wednesdays, where they play just for points towards the end-of-the-month tournament. They're basically getting roped in. ESL broadcasts the events and charges for premium membership and hi-q streams. It has been a relatively successful series, but face it, many top players have stopped playing in these events because they're simply too long and don't offer much reward in return. IMO, the players are getting screwed.

And now they want to branch into the NA market, but kick it off with this joke of a prize pool? It's a bad move. I'm 100% for growing E-Sports on all fronts, so don't give me this "stop complaining, any organized event is good for E-Sports." I think they should have waited until they found a proper sponsor, and could have at least matched the European prize pools. 1/5th? Seriously? That's a slap in the face of NA players.
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-21 08:47:15
October 21 2010 08:45 GMT
#29
LOL after reading this I seriously have to ask: what the fuck is wrong with you?

don't you realize nobody cares about the prize money in Europe when it comes to Go4Sc2? Go4Sc2 is a way for top gamers to match themselves, to test their skill on tournament level; for pride and for practice; in every 1v1-sport you have FEW prestigeous events and MANY low-tier events....but of course the pros also go to the low-tier events to keep themselves in shape because training isn't everything that matters;
do you think nadal, federer etc. would be so good if they played just at the grand slams? of course not, they play a shitton of tournaments nobody cares about to keep themselves "in the game", to stay focused, to have tournament-experience; Go4Sc2 Europe is the perfect analogon to this - basicly you can't expect pro-gamers to perform amazingly when it comes to the big stuff when all they have is to play ladder games 24/7; Go4Sc2 provides the perfect platform to have the adrenaline-shot only tournaments (with casts/etc.) can give you....twice a week; why the hell do you think many of the european top-gamers play Go4Sc2 AND Zotac at the same time? because they are sooo dependent on the prize-money? seriously?

also Go4Sc2 is a perfect way for amateurs to show their skill and to play the occasional game vs top-notch gamers; I improved a lot from winning 1-2 rounds each tourney and then getting stomped by a FAR better player who showed me some weaknesses of my strats my ladder-opponents couldn't, because they were too bad themselves; Go4Sc2 has always been packed, 1024 players every Sunday speaks for itself

and now Go4Sc2 comes to NA and all you can do is complain about the prize-money; as if this was all that matters when it comes to regular tournament experience....Jesus....
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shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
October 21 2010 09:23 GMT
#30
I agree, this cups are mainly for practice!

And if you think ESL is just taking advantages of premium accounts that pay to watch the stream don't forget ESL also runs huge lan tournaments like IEM!

You might argue that the pro's will eventually leave this and it might be true but won't the regular player ou wannabe pro benefit from this competion much more then 10 ou 20 ladder games?

If you wan't to talk about the diference in money from korea to usa then also talk of the difference of money in USA to the world in basketball money!

Or the money football has in england and china for instance..

E-sports are only pro in korea where hundreds live of games.. they have TV channels and USA have streams.. is totally different..
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Baby_Seal
Profile Joined August 2010
United States360 Posts
October 21 2010 09:38 GMT
#31
This looks pretty cool, thanks =D.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
October 21 2010 09:58 GMT
#32
These cups are really good for amateurs and not so well known players. Kinda like courage in korea.
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Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-21 10:39:34
October 21 2010 10:35 GMT
#33
I do not understand the complaining. National ESL i providing a platform for all gamers to enjoy and compete in on a regular basis. Not everything dobe by ESL, WCG, MLG and other organisations should be geared towards the people that want to make a full time job out of playing StarCraft II.

I would even argue that the amateurs are much more important - the next IdrA will not magically appear out of nowhere. Today "the next IdrA" is one of the nameless amateurs that needs a weekly competition to keep wanting to play and compete until he's picked up by a coL or an EG. He needs to come up somehow.

It's quite simple. And if you happen to not like it, ignore it, but do acknowledge that amateur competitions are immensely important for the community.
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NrG.ShyToSs
Profile Joined August 2010
United States16 Posts
October 21 2010 11:35 GMT
#34
I love the idea and everything ... but at 8pm EST. Kinda sucks for people who have to get up at 6am and be at work (like me)
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
October 21 2010 11:59 GMT
#35
On October 21 2010 09:37 AmiPolizeiFunk wrote:
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On October 21 2010 09:10 fueNN wrote:
go4sc2 for europe has a similar prize-money (100 € for sunday-cups, nothing on wednesday), still every tournament is packed with top-notch players from all over the world. if you can run an event very smoothly and deliver great coverage, the importance of your prizemoney-pool is fading out. top-tier players want/have to represent their organisation to the max, second-class players are looking to shine under the observation of these great teams and it's great place for young talents to acquire some experience.

so stop bitching about the prize-pool already

(kinda cheap to be able to buy yourself into the monthly final though, disappoint)


lol if you think top players will continue to play for these ridiculously meager prize pools. Many have already ducked out of Go4SC2 Europe. Go4SC2 will become a nice "stepping stone" where amatuers can cut their teeth (and cheat off livestreams, etc), but that's about it. It shows no ambition for ESL to start this league in NA and only offer $50 for the Sunday prize. Couldn't they find a sponsor?!

What kind of position are you in to criticize this? If people want to compete in their tournament, they will. They'll see themselves if the prizepool is not big enough (not attracting decent players). Many people play tournaments for fun and experience.
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cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
October 21 2010 12:18 GMT
#36
Public tournaments are always great. Especially when they are well organized and steady like go4sc2. I can't believe all the criticism.
MinoMino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1103 Posts
October 21 2010 13:28 GMT
#37
Good for you guys. Europe has been doing well for quite a while in terms of weekly prized tourneys, so good to see ESL decided to expand. Even if the prize pool isn't much, I'm sure it's going to be packed every sunday. I really don't get why many of you are complaining, seriously. If you don't like it, don't play in it. It surely is better than not hosting this tourney at all.
Blah.
reg0ner
Profile Joined September 2010
United States56 Posts
October 21 2010 13:29 GMT
#38
On October 21 2010 08:07 Tha_Docta wrote:
Hope this grows in the future, or at least plants seeds for even bigger tournaments

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Who's doing the moderating around here. smh..

I also agree even if people are complaining about the small prize pools, its better than nothing and its FREE!
dANiELcanuck
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada217 Posts
October 21 2010 13:43 GMT
#39
ESL could remove the prize pool altogether and I bet they'll still have no trouble filling these tournaments even if they do last 8+ hours. A lot of people ARE playing this game for fun (contrary to the belief of many of the people posting in this thread). They know they aren't FruitDealer, BoxeR, Genius, etc. They know they can't go to the GSL. Heck 99% of them probably cant make it to the events in the states. They still may enjoy playing in a tournament setting and this is for them. If you can't appreciate what you're being given I don't know what you're doing here in the first place.

PS: The greatest piano player in the world was at a party and decided to leave. His friend asked him where he was going. The pianist responded, "Well I'm going home, I must practice". His friend said, "But you're the greatest pianist in the world, surely you needn't practice". To this the pianist said, "If I didn't practice I wouldn't be the best player in the world".

This is what these low tier tournaments is all about, giving the no-names a place to practice, have fun, enjoy their time spent playing this great game and even giving some of you "take everything for granted and appreciate nothing" people some games to watch.
Trentelshark
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada385 Posts
October 21 2010 14:08 GMT
#40
Good to see some tournaments finally making it to NA, I was wondering how long I'd have to wait for the option of joining in without purchasing a EU product key .
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