The scheduled exhibition matches of Starcraft 2 for ChinaJoy 2009 on July 23rd would have become the first starcraft 2 open event around the world, predating the ones to be held in South Korea on July 24th, featuring the much-anticipated face-off between Moon and Nada.
However, at the moment when all Chinese fans were cheering the upcoming opportunity to get a closer look at the masterpiece by Blizzard, there came a sad news, saying, Starcraft 2 was banned by authorities from being exhibited on this year’s ChinaJoy.
Again, Blizzard failed when facing Chinese goverment.
The detailed cause of ban remains unkown. Up till now, Two accounts were given unofficially by online media.
The former said that The State Bureau Of Culture called a halt to Starcraft 2 on ChinaJoy, for “Starcraft 2 is much too bloody, which will severely effect the mental as well as physical health of adolescents”.
The latter is in a more institutional tone, saying, according to the lastest regulation released on July 1st,2009, “Any activity related to foreign games, including their showing, demostrating, trading and marketing promotion, shall also abide by the censorship laws aming at imported online games”, meaning any foreign game, if it wanna put in an appearence in any public event inside China, “shall be subject to censorship and approval by the State Admimistartion Of News And Press.”, or it will no doubt be banned, and “all promoters, sponsors, and companies related shall held their respective legal responsibilities.”
PLU, the official partner of OGN in China had planned to broadcast the exhibition matches live via online TV, with its best narrators =XD=love, Sanpao, etc. commentating . But they cancelled the plan yesterday, issuing an terse official statement, saying they had to change their plan for some nontechnical reason.
BTW, both Blizzard and its Chinese partner NetEase have never officially announced anything about Starcraft2 on ChinaJoy, nonetheless, several news are leaked by some insiders, including the photos below, showing Blizzard and NetEase’s booths on this year's ChinaJoy, with large Starcraft 2 posters hanging.
On July 23 2009 19:16 skypacer wrote: The former said The Sate Bureau Of Culture called a halt to Starcraft 2 on ChinaJoy, for “Starcraft 2 is much too bloody, which will severely effect the mental as well as physical health of adolescents”.
Interesting that Blizzard's woes began (severely) once they changed their operating company in China. Makes you think the old company has connections they are using to make Blizzard's life rough.
Another log on the back's of the Chinese gamer. I'm glad I hadn't heard that it was going to be broad casted or else I might have just been let down. Censorship makes alot of sence for some things, like Live popular sporting events (Olympics for example) but this sort of thing really smacks you in the face. I would be so angry if my government decided I was unable to determine what me or my children could view.
The former said that The Sate Bureau Of Culture called a halt to Starcraft 2 on ChinaJoy, for “Starcraft 2 is much too bloody, which will severely effect the mental as well as physical health of adolescents”.
The former said that The Sate Bureau Of Culture called a halt to Starcraft 2 on ChinaJoy, for “Starcraft 2 is much too bloody, which will severely effect the mental as well as physical health of adolescents”.
Sounds plausible.
On July 23 2009 19:31 Shindrah wrote: Chinese government sounds smart.
These must be levels, right? This kind of censorship never helped anyone and acceptance simply demonstrates a high level of indoctrination.
Anyway, ridiculous, ensuring government control at the expense of the population -- unrelated to SC2. Makes me think China has it worse than the United States.
My theory is that China really wants its own games to prosper, and it sees Starcraft 2 as a threat to the prosperity of its own companies.
China has very very strict laws about outside media, even including television and music. At the same time China turns a blind eye to internal companies pirating Windows operating systems and producing their own, subpar versions and renaming them as if they were original.
On July 23 2009 20:17 Oxygen wrote: Makes me think China has it worse than the United States.
Oo... So before you read this you thought the US government was worse then China???? (don't get me wrong, US has it's share of problems but worse then China! WOW....)
The former said that The Sate Bureau Of Culture called a halt to Starcraft 2 on ChinaJoy, for “Starcraft 2 is much too bloody, which will severely effect the mental as well as physical health of adolescents”.
On July 23 2009 19:31 Shindrah wrote: Chinese government sounds smart.
These must be levels, right? This kind of censorship never helped anyone and acceptance simply demonstrates a high level of indoctrination.
Anyway, ridiculous, ensuring government control at the expense of the population -- unrelated to SC2. Makes me think China has it worse than the United States.
Unrelated to starcraft2 but not to this topic. I just hope you're kidding about that last statement. Really, there's plenty, plenty of countries (including industrialized ones) that have it worse than the US!
on the whole.. china isn't bad but the whole censorship thing is a bitch... my friends were in china for a service trip and they tried googling freedom. their internet was down for 15 minutes. lol.
I cant believe a nation that doesnt support any religion what so ever is still concerned with blood and references to the word ghost
There you have it, good sir. You see, it is the fact that they have no religions is what makes them so afraid of stuff like this. Ghosts, to most religions, are at best accepted parts of their religion (in things like shamanism and ancestor-religion), and at worst silly, but generally harmless superstitions--but certainly not worthy of censure of the term itself. Ghosts to the Chinese government, on the other hand, as beings of a supposed "spiritual realm," are nasty, anti-social "religious" superstitions--things which will turn the minds of their subjects towards religion, and away from unceasing state-worship. After all, if ghosts are real, might not God (or the gods--the Chinese government isn't too picky) be real as well? And even if it doesn't literally lead people to religion, it will certainly bring such things back to mind--and that is dangerous. Obviously, it's better to keep such things out of the public eye altogether.
Unfortunately for them, China (as in the Chinese gaming community) needs Blizzard a hell of a lot more than Blizzard needs China. If it were me, I'd leave China in the cold.
Because japanesse gamers are much more into portable gaming? And even then, I still think they'd choose consoles anytime over the PC. But bleh I'm not from Japan.
On July 23 2009 19:16 skypacer wrote: “Chinese government is much too bloody, which will severely effect the mental as well as physical health of adolescents”.
They are doing the same thing to WoW. Having to basically change the way entire races look to pass the censor. However I just don't see Blizzard going through it again for SC2. If they want a fair multiplayer experience they just can't radically change the way the game looks for chinese players.
Well to be honest I think making a "falling over" death animation wouldn't be too hard.
We wouldn't have to worry about it as long as there was the option to get the real anims back.
Yes, band-aid for a lost limb, but I guess in this case the short term solution is all we can hope for. My thoughts go out to chinese gamers
China has some of the best gamers on the planet, maybe if the government could take that as a point of national pride they would ease up a bit on game censorship...
I cant believe a nation that doesnt support any religion what so ever is still concerned with blood and references to the word ghost
There you have it, good sir. You see, it is the fact that they have no religions is what makes them so afraid of stuff like this. Ghosts, to most religions, are at best accepted parts of their religion (in things like shamanism and ancestor-religion), and at worst silly, but generally harmless superstitions--but certainly not worthy of censure of the term itself. Ghosts to the Chinese government, on the other hand, as beings of a supposed "spiritual realm," are nasty, anti-social "religious" superstitions--things which will turn the minds of their subjects towards religion, and away from unceasing state-worship. After all, if ghosts are real, might not God (or the gods--the Chinese government isn't too picky) be real as well? And even if it doesn't literally lead people to religion, it will certainly bring such things back to mind--and that is dangerous. Obviously, it's better to keep such things out of the public eye altogether.
good word.
sorry china
i'm sure blizz will cater to china's demands eventually. it just may be a while before they have time. they're not going to ignore 1.3 billion people.
Not to turn this into political debate, but that's what you get when you think the government is smart enough to choose what is good for you and what is not. If you didn't know already, now you know that living in China is really shitty.
I remember reading someone requesting Blizzard to add an option to turn off blood/gore, and they actually promptly responded pretty much saying "Just added it, thanks for the suggestion"
Why don't they just turn this on for the Chinese release?
On July 23 2009 19:16 skypacer wrote: The former said The Sate Bureau Of Culture called a halt to Starcraft 2 on ChinaJoy, for “Starcraft 2 is much too bloody, which will severely effect the mental as well as physical health of adolescents”.
On July 23 2009 20:38 madnessman wrote: Chinese gamers have it kind of rough. The Great Firewall of China makes online gaming so laggy... + censorship stuff like this
The Great Firewall of China... ahaha that's awesome.
What isn't awesome is the censorship... god damn that's a load of crap.
On July 24 2009 08:34 Aegraen wrote: Ah, I love the 2nd Amendment. Long live the 2nd Amendment.
You mean the 1st Amendment? Oh wait, I forgot you're an ultraconservative nut; nevermind.
That Thomas Jefferson was sure a nut! That James Madison was sure a nut! That Patrick Henry was sure a nut!
Only people who think guns kill people are nutty. If it wasn't for the 2nd amendment and an armed populace keeping the government from going from a soft tyranny to a hard tyranny we would be a lot worst off than we are today. Remember, the government should be afraid of us, we shouldn't be afraid of our government.
If China's populace had a 2nd Amendment and had an armed populace you bet they wouldn't be a Totalitarian state. The first thing every totalitarian state does is confiscate the populaces arms, without a means to defend yourself you're at the governments mercy. Only a nut knowing history would put himself in that position.
On July 24 2009 08:34 Aegraen wrote: Ah, I love the 2nd Amendment. Long live the 2nd Amendment.
You mean the 1st Amendment? Oh wait, I forgot you're an ultraconservative nut; nevermind.
That Thomas Jefferson was sure a nut! That James Madison was sure a nut! That Patrick Henry was sure a nut!
Only people who think guns kill people are nutty. If it wasn't for the 2nd amendment and an armed populace keeping the government from going from a soft tyranny to a hard tyranny we would be a lot worst off than we are today. Remember, the government should be afraid of us, we shouldn't be afraid of our government.
If China's populace had a 2nd Amendment and had an armed populace you bet they wouldn't be a Totalitarian state. The first thing every totalitarian state does is confiscate the populaces arms, without a means to defend yourself you're at the governments mercy. Only a nut knowing history would put himself in that position.
Tata!
There are plenty of countries that are democratic with hard restrictions on gun licenses.
European countries for example are much more free than USA where the goverment with the patrioct act has the liberty to torture and do pretty much anything they wish against any american citizen.
School shootings, suicides by guns, and gun related deaths in general are by far lower in europe too.
On July 24 2009 08:34 Aegraen wrote: Ah, I love the 2nd Amendment. Long live the 2nd Amendment.
You mean the 1st Amendment? Oh wait, I forgot you're an ultraconservative nut; nevermind.
That Thomas Jefferson was sure a nut! That James Madison was sure a nut! That Patrick Henry was sure a nut!
Only people who think guns kill people are nutty. If it wasn't for the 2nd amendment and an armed populace keeping the government from going from a soft tyranny to a hard tyranny we would be a lot worst off than we are today. Remember, the government should be afraid of us, we shouldn't be afraid of our government.
If China's populace had a 2nd Amendment and had an armed populace you bet they wouldn't be a Totalitarian state. The first thing every totalitarian state does is confiscate the populaces arms, without a means to defend yourself you're at the governments mercy. Only a nut knowing history would put himself in that position.
On July 24 2009 08:34 Aegraen wrote: Ah, I love the 2nd Amendment. Long live the 2nd Amendment.
You mean the 1st Amendment? Oh wait, I forgot you're an ultraconservative nut; nevermind.
That Thomas Jefferson was sure a nut! That James Madison was sure a nut! That Patrick Henry was sure a nut!
Only people who think guns kill people are nutty. If it wasn't for the 2nd amendment and an armed populace keeping the government from going from a soft tyranny to a hard tyranny we would be a lot worst off than we are today. Remember, the government should be afraid of us, we shouldn't be afraid of our government.
If China's populace had a 2nd Amendment and had an armed populace you bet they wouldn't be a Totalitarian state. The first thing every totalitarian state does is confiscate the populaces arms, without a means to defend yourself you're at the governments mercy. Only a nut knowing history would put himself in that position.
Tata!
There are plenty of countries that are democratic with hard restrictions on gun licenses.
European countries for example are much more free than USA where the goverment with the patrioct act has the liberty to torture and do pretty much anything they wish against any american citizen.
School shootings, suicides by guns, and gun related deaths in general are by far lower in europe too.
Edit: I guess you're a troll or simply ignorant.
Haha. Come on, are you serious? Have you been lib indoctrinated so much that you actually BELIEVE that the Patriot Act gives the US Government the authority to detain and torture American citizens without due process? No, seriously? This couldn't be further from the truth. While I am opposed to the Patriot Act on the basis of checks and balances and my willingness to forgo the utmost safety for liberty and due process of law (Ah, you see TL, more of my libertarian traits show through!), the only thing the Patriot Act does, is to forgo the process of obtaining a warrant to wiretip individuals who are communicating outside the U.S.
I recommend you actually read the law.
Lastly, European countries are not more free. Economically European citizens are strangled and encumbered by numerous restrictions, regulations, and very high taxes. Our greatest freedom lies in private property rights and the ability to keep the fruits of our labor. Without economic freedom, you have no freedom.
P.S. I would like for you to name one country (Other than the U.S.) in which the last 250 years they have had the same Government that hasn't overstepped its bounds and it led to greater restrictions on the populace because they didn't have arms. Going back even further throughout history and even recent history, shows you just how thoroughly wrong you are.
P.P.S. I never understood why people are so enamored by Democracy. Democracy leads to mob rule (IE, the majority denying the minority their rights through voting). The greatest known government to man that protects the liberty and freedoms of the majority and minority is a Republic, especially a Constitutional Representative Republic, such as America and even the early times of Rome when it was the most prosperous and even the first Israeli state created by Moses.
Well, our fxcking 'powerful' government just banned the SC2 BETA play from Chinajoy 2009. The reason is---- Blizzard forgot to bribe some special government department, that's why SC2's BETA got banned~~~~
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