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eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
May 22 2009 23:56 GMT
#41
normally2 rax couple tanks and vessel off 1 base was before sk terran or fast expand builds
AlwaysGG
Profile Joined March 2009
Taiwan952 Posts
May 23 2009 00:26 GMT
#42
yup how we can win game now have to thank those inventer. they reflect how matchup are play now even is 9 or 10years ago. after replenish the strategy is well rounded n good to go!
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
May 23 2009 00:44 GMT
#43
On May 23 2009 07:55 anotak wrote:
much like how sauron zerg is named for the foreigner player sauron.. although it certainly fits.

Wait, Seriously?
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
May 23 2009 01:48 GMT
#44
Actually I didn't know what SK really meant until I looked it up somewhere in TL.....I think it's one of the Terran vs Zerg guides around....

anyway, the title of this thread is kinda misleading.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Disintegrate
Profile Joined April 2009
United States182 Posts
May 23 2009 01:55 GMT
#45
On May 23 2009 01:59 Gliche wrote:
Soulkey was the pioneer. Nada brought it into the limelight. A lot like how DT/sair came from Daezang, reaver/sair came from Nal_ra but they are both normal PvZ builds now.


all made popular by Bisu, of course

^_^
Disintegrate
Profile Joined April 2009
United States182 Posts
May 23 2009 01:57 GMT
#46
besides, sk terran really only works if the zerg player doesn't effectively scout first with ovie, since the 2rax into academy is almost a sure sign. sk terran mainly relies on 1base, since the gas production wouldnt be that intensive unless you switch to more vessels late game, which requires expansions

it's a quite simple and easy-to-counter build nowadays, with lurks, guards, and that kind of shit. but it was one of the terran's best arsenals back then.
Disintegrate
Profile Joined April 2009
United States182 Posts
May 23 2009 02:00 GMT
#47
On May 23 2009 09:44 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2009 07:55 anotak wrote:
much like how sauron zerg is named for the foreigner player sauron.. although it certainly fits.

Wait, Seriously?


half and half, half because it was actually named after the foreigner, but another half because sauron-style almost immediately refers to one of the oldest maps, dark sauron (or some shit like that)

Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
May 23 2009 02:05 GMT
#48
How many times does this question need to be asked? Hopefully everyone who doesnt know the origin of SK terran will read this thread so we dont have to see another one in 2 months.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
May 23 2009 02:08 GMT
#49
On May 23 2009 03:28 Cambium wrote:
I thought this was common knowledge?

TranslatorBaa!
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
May 23 2009 02:17 GMT
#50
On May 23 2009 10:57 Disintegrate wrote:
besides, sk terran really only works if the zerg player doesn't effectively scout first with ovie, since the 2rax into academy is almost a sure sign. sk terran mainly relies on 1base, since the gas production wouldnt be that intensive unless you switch to more vessels late game, which requires expansions

it's a quite simple and easy-to-counter build nowadays, with lurks, guards, and that kind of shit. but it was one of the terran's best arsenals back then.


I'm not sure what bizarre time warped world you're living in, but SK terran has never been 'easy to counter' unless your name was Savior. The SK terran that Nada used was fueled by 2 gases. T's only opened 2 rax acad cc back then because Zergs were still opening 2 hatch lurker and strategies hadn't evolved enough yet. SK terran now is fueled off of 1 rax cc or 14cc. Not really that much of a difference. Flash has been using it pretty frequently over the past half year to great success.

On May 23 2009 08:01 Chef wrote:
Ehh... I don't really like the idea that someone 'invented' a combination of units. Popularized, maybe, but what the hell? The only time it's really clear someone invented a strat is if it's hugely map specific and uses some fancy timing or building placement... If it's just a combination of units... It's probably been done ten million times over while people were still generally picking their units at random to win games.

Don't get me wrong. I like calling it SK Terran too. I used to think it meant South Korean since it's kind of a hard micro intensive way to play and it made me feel like a baller to do it.


Nobody cares about how some average newbie 'invented' any build back in 1999.

The entire point of inventing a build is the mindset behind it, whether it be map specific or not. That's why all the bozos who think the fantasy build wasn't invented in 2008 by iloveoov but is just bringing back an older build are wrong, because the fantasy build is entirely geared at beating 3 hatch muta, a modern invention. If some random person used it in 2002 vs 2 hatch lurker or whatever it would be a completely different build than the 2008 one.
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jeddus
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States832 Posts
May 23 2009 02:59 GMT
#51
Interesting question:
Are builds based on mindsets or on the order and effect of resources spent?
Or both?
Discuss and debate!
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Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
May 23 2009 03:25 GMT
#52
On May 23 2009 09:44 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2009 07:55 anotak wrote:
much like how sauron zerg is named for the foreigner player sauron.. although it certainly fits.

Wait, Seriously?


And maynarding your workers comes from the foreigner Maynard (at least I think so), sadly the phrase is dying
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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
May 23 2009 03:56 GMT
#53
On May 23 2009 01:59 Gliche wrote:
Soulkey was the pioneer. Nada brought it into the limelight. A lot like how DT/sair came from Daezang, reaver/sair came from Nal_ra but they are both normal PvZ builds now.


Dt/sair predates Daezang and reaver/sair predates rA. The two are pioneers not because they were the first to use those combinations (and they weren't, not by a long shot) but because of the novel way they used them.
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