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sky_slasher
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States328 Posts
May 22 2009 16:49 GMT
#1
Original post, with some information gathered from user posts at Fomos

SK Terran. What does that invoke in your mind?

Maybe the legendary Terran line of SKT T1 - Boxer, Oov, Midas, Canata, and Fantasy.

And maybe the Bionic/Vessels style of play that restored Terran after July's dominance against the traditional Bionic.

That's what I thought when I saw a post at Fomos asking what's the origin of SK Terran. The responses, however, totally surprised me.

http://www.fomos.kr/gnuboard4/bbs/board.php?bo_table=know&wr_id=8736

Above thread translated:

Question - What's the definition and origin of SK Terran?

Answers
- Back in the day, a Terran user named SKOOO dominated Battle.net against Zerg, using numerous Vessels. Countless Bionic units and Vessels made Defilers almost useless. On the TV match, Oov for the first time famously used the strategy against July at a map named Into the Darkness and won. Thereafter, the strategy became known as SK Terran, named after the first two letters of SKOOO.
- Isn't it SK Terran because of SoulKey?
- His ID was something like Soulkey
- I think SoulKey was the origin. The traditional Bionic added with a lot of fast-moving Vessels that help kill the opponent

Translation ended.

SoulKey? Anybody else heard that player before? I immediately looked him up at TeamLiquid.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/401_SoulKey

Not the most profiled player. Yet, all the answers at Fomos, whose users are usually very knowledgeable about SC, point at him as the originator of Bionic/Vessels style of play that is still heavily used by Terran users.

I am always fascinated by this kind of historical information and wonder what are these hidden innovators of SC are doing nowadays.
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
May 22 2009 16:53 GMT
#2
hm, I wonder who SKOOO is, unless he's SoulKey?

I need to learn how to play this way, my tanks keep dying T_T
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-22 16:55:36
May 22 2009 16:55 GMT
#3
I thought everyone knew this lol

A player by the ID SoulKey used it, but being micro-intensive, it wasn't used well until Nada starting using it and raped zergs left right and center.

But then again, SKOOO? I suspect that's SoulKey
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Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
May 22 2009 16:56 GMT
#4
yeah I think the consensus here is SK stands for SoulKey, not SKT
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
May 22 2009 16:56 GMT
#5
Uhm, yeah, Boxer wasn't the one that made SK Terran.
It was SoulKey, he wrote a book about how cost effective marine medic and vessels are against zerg.

And I think this has been already covered in old topics around here..
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Gliche
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States811 Posts
May 22 2009 16:59 GMT
#6
Soulkey was the pioneer. Nada brought it into the limelight. A lot like how DT/sair came from Daezang, reaver/sair came from Nal_ra but they are both normal PvZ builds now.
KT fighting~!! | Designing things is fun!
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
May 22 2009 17:01 GMT
#7
On May 23 2009 01:59 Gliche wrote:
Soulkey was the pioneer. Nada brought it into the limelight. A lot like how DT/sair came from Daezang, reaver/sair came from Nal_ra but they are both normal PvZ builds now.

you forgot Forge FE and 12 nexus.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
May 22 2009 17:02 GMT
#8
Aah.. the days when every Protoss went 1 gate core/2 gate core... =(
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
May 22 2009 17:04 GMT
#9
On May 23 2009 02:02 konadora wrote:
Aah.. the days when every Protoss went 1 gate core/2 gate core... =(

in PvT?

I think there was a time where that "one size fits all" build was destroyed by Oov (?)
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Gliche
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States811 Posts
May 22 2009 17:04 GMT
#10
On May 23 2009 02:01 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2009 01:59 Gliche wrote:
Soulkey was the pioneer. Nada brought it into the limelight. A lot like how DT/sair came from Daezang, reaver/sair came from Nal_ra but they are both normal PvZ builds now.

you forgot Forge FE and 12 nexus.

I'm not sure who first did those
KT fighting~!! | Designing things is fun!
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
May 22 2009 17:05 GMT
#11
I meant 1 gate play against Z, lol what on earth was I thinking :3
POGGERS
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
May 22 2009 17:06 GMT
#12
On May 23 2009 02:04 Gliche wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2009 02:01 SilverSkyLark wrote:
On May 23 2009 01:59 Gliche wrote:
Soulkey was the pioneer. Nada brought it into the limelight. A lot like how DT/sair came from Daezang, reaver/sair came from Nal_ra but they are both normal PvZ builds now.

you forgot Forge FE and 12 nexus.

I'm not sure who first did those

I'm sure about nal_rA pioneering Forge FE, but he wasn't able to immortalize it against Zerg.........
and I'm 50% sure he started 12 nexus against Terran
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
May 22 2009 17:32 GMT
#13
I don't think anyone thinks of Boxer when they think of SK Terran.
uglymoose89
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States671 Posts
May 22 2009 17:44 GMT
#14
On May 23 2009 02:32 koreasilver wrote:
I don't think anyone thinks of Boxer when they think of SK Terran.


Atleast not on this forum. Hmm it's interesting that even very obscure players have had such a profound effect on the strategy of the game.
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
May 22 2009 17:51 GMT
#15
Yeah... SoulKey, thus "SK" Terran. I thought everyone knew that.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
May 22 2009 18:07 GMT
#16
I remember Kingdom going 14 Nex a lot, not sure if he was the first though.
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emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
May 22 2009 18:11 GMT
#17
yeah it was SoulKey, that why we call bionic as "SK"
ZaDeX
Profile Joined May 2009
Venezuela27 Posts
May 22 2009 18:26 GMT
#18
i didnt knew it ^^!
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
May 22 2009 18:28 GMT
#19
I thought this was common knowledge?
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Amarxist
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States371 Posts
May 22 2009 18:53 GMT
#20
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