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igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
May 28 2009 22:45 GMT
#2781

Example: Fisher, Vujacic, Bynum (last year and before Bnyum got hurt) were very very consistent. You knew exactly what you would get out of them on any given night and they produced X amount of stuff per game. This postseason that's been all out of whack.

Odom has always been inconsistent - but it's not in the same way as J R Smith. When Smith is off, he'll shoot 20% and contribute NOTHING. When Odom is off, he might still get 10 rebounds and be a presence. He might not be getting 20/15 with 3 blocks, but he'll at least contribute something.

So... Odom is like a +1 streaky player in that even when he's playing badly, he's at least contributing.. J R Smith contributes close to nothing when he's not "on". If the Lakers can't solve a lot of their issues, I really would doubt their ability to win a title. Example, I think Lakers vs Cavs would be a 50/50 tossup (Clevland has a big shot at winning it), although I think the Lakers have a better shot against Orlando. But in general, with the way the Lakers have been playing in the playoffs, even if they DO win, I would say 8 times out of 10 they wouldn't win with what they have been doing so far.

Vujacic: Incorrect. Oddly April is his best month, garbage time?

By Month G MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% STL BLK TO PF OFF DEF TOT AST PTS
October 2 15.0 2.0-5.5 36.364 1.0-2.0 .500 0.0-0.5 .000 1.00 0.00 0.0 1.0 0.0 1.5 1.5 1.5 5.0
November 13 15.5 1.9-5.2 37.313 0.8-2.5 .333 0.9-1.0 92.308 1.15 0.00 0.6 2.2 0.3 1.5 1.8 1.4 5.6
December 15 15.0 1.8-4.2 42.857 1.1-2.6 .436 0.9-1.1 82.353 0.87 0.20 0.5 1.9 0.1 1.2 1.3 1.5 5.7
January 14 20.4 2.4-6.4 36.667 1.4-4.3 .333 1.1-1.1 100.000 0.93 0.07 0.3 1.7 0.2 1.8 2.0 1.7 7.2
February 13 14.2 1.4-4.4 31.579 0.7-2.5 .273 0.6-0.6 100.000 0.77 0.08 0.5 2.0 0.2 1.4 1.6 1.6 4.1
March 15 15.1 1.8-4.8 37.500 0.7-2.2 .333 0.3-0.3 100.000 1.00 0.07 0.4 1.9 0.5 1.5 2.0 1.1 4.7
April 8 17.6 2.6-5.1 51.220 1.4-2.6 .524 2.0-2.1 94.118 1.13 0.13 0.4 2.0 0.0 1.1 1.1 1.0 8.6

Derek fisher: Stats drop in april

By Month G MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% STL BLK TO PF OFF DEF TOT AST PTS
October 2 23.5 3.5-9.5 36.842 1.5-3.0 .500 2.0-2.0 100.000 0.50 0.00 1.0 0.5 1.0 2.0 3.0 3.0 10.5
November 13 27.6 3.7-9.9 37.209 1.5-3.6 .426 1.0-1.1 92.857 0.85 0.15 0.9 2.4 0.5 1.9 2.5 2.8 9.9
December 15 31.7 4.1-8.2 49.593 1.6-3.6 .444 2.7-3.1 87.234 1.33 0.07 0.9 2.6 0.3 2.3 2.6 4.0 12.5
January 16 36.1 3.9-9.4 41.060 1.8-4.1 .431 0.9-1.1 82.353 1.63 0.06 1.6 2.3 0.4 2.3 2.7 4.7 10.4
February 13 30.2 3.5-7.8 45.098 1.7-4.5 .379 1.5-1.8 79.167 1.38 0.00 0.6 2.7 0.2 1.5 1.7 2.6 10.2
March 15 27.9 3.5-7.5 46.429 1.3-3.2 .417 0.9-1.1 87.500 0.40 0.07 0.5 1.8 0.1 1.9 2.1 2.4 9.2
April 8 21.5 2.0-6.5 30.769 0.4-3.0 .125 0.6-1.0 62.500 1.63 0.13 0.5 2.1 0.1 1.8 1.9 1.8 5.0

Bynum: Offense (fg%, shots) good in april. Rebounding down to 5.5 from season average of 8

October 2 26.0 4.0-8.5 47.059 0.0-0.0 .000 2.0-3.0 66.667 0.50 3.00 1.0 4.5 2.0 4.0 6.0 0.5 10.0
November 13 29.7 4.9-9.1 54.237 0.0-0.0 .000 2.9-4.0 73.077 0.77 2.08 1.4 3.0 3.8 5.8 9.5 2.2 12.8
December 15 27.9 5.1-9.3 54.286 0.0-0.0 .000 2.1-3.3 62.000 0.33 1.47 2.1 3.0 2.3 5.4 7.7 1.3 12.2
January 16 30.1 6.6-11.3 58.889 0.0-0.0 .000 4.0-5.4 73.563 0.13 1.94 1.6 2.9 2.4 5.3 7.8 1.1 17.3
April 4 26.8 6.8-11.8 57.447 0.0-0.0 .000 3.8-5.0 75.000 0.00 1.00 2.0 4.3 2.5 3.0 5.5 1.0 17.3


And there was something article on refereeing much earlier in which they believed more officials would create more confusion than it would help.

# Make-up calls: "This is the reason why we don't do that -- I can't tell you how many times I make a call that I think is correct -- and then go into locker room and it's wrong or vice versa. We don't really know. We do what is in our heart and what our mind tells us, but we don't know for sure until we see it in the locker room. So every play is a new play, and your focus has to be on the next play."

Maybe I'm thinking of the nfl, but if referees did make up calls it would crush their performance rating. What someone thought of as make-up calls is probably statistical averaging.
72AND10
Profile Joined January 2009
United States93 Posts
May 29 2009 00:32 GMT
#2782
On May 29 2009 06:12 poor newb wrote:
first they need more refs, 3 guys cant watch 10 players, they should have 10 refs each designated to watch each player on the court
then they need to use replays to make sure every call is right, i dont care if the game is twice as long because of it, having a fair game is worth it

simply just doing these two things would easily solve the problem but they will never do it of course


I can see the adding of new refs. That would be very beneficial.

But a basketball game can last anywhere from 2.5 - 3.0 hours. Now I'm sure you used "twice as long" to make a point. But to my point, I'm certain there are many people, myself included, who do not want to see that number doubled. 5-6 hours per game? So tonight when the Cavs / Orlando game starts @ 8:30 PM EST, those of us on the east coast can stay up until 1:30 AM to watch it. :D

Nah I'm only kidding. But I'm sure there is a reason the instant replay isn't used all that often on a consistent basis. It will eventually drag the game out. I still stand by and vote for the challenge system!
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
May 29 2009 00:49 GMT
#2783
Looks like Mo Williams showed up with a vengeance.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
May 29 2009 00:52 GMT
#2784
Magic must be shooting <20% right now
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-29 00:54:51
May 29 2009 00:53 GMT
#2785
Cavs
10-11 3-3 3-3
90.9% 100% 100%

Magic
3-11 1-4 1-3
27.3% 20.0% 25.0%

Let's see how the Cavs can blow this lead. If Williams plays to his proper level for the rest of the game this should be an easy victory though.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
May 29 2009 01:11 GMT
#2786
despite Magic playing terribly, for some reason I'm not worried. :p
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SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
May 29 2009 01:12 GMT
#2787
Probably because they always get off to a slow start and get outplayed in the first quarter/half then dominate for the rest of the game. =[
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-29 01:16:59
May 29 2009 01:16 GMT
#2788
why do i feel like this game is gonna end up like game 1...

edit: thank God there's no more doug collins
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
May 29 2009 01:29 GMT
#2789
West on a 3 point play, but that should be a travel if you count the continuation.
XoXiDe
Profile Joined September 2006
United States620 Posts
May 29 2009 01:30 GMT
#2790
aweome, i dont have cable but their streaming the game on yahoo/tnt, woot
TEXAN
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-29 01:49:10
May 29 2009 01:48 GMT
#2791
Lebron is always exciting to watch, but I love watching the Cavs suck. Mike Brown should have his CoY rescinded, he doesn't even run their offense.

I can't watch the game the same way after reading the Simmons article. The refs are basically controlling the game.
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poor newb
Profile Joined April 2004
United States1879 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-29 01:52:24
May 29 2009 01:49 GMT
#2792
wow cavs sucking so hard they just blew their lead

rofl 1 point game at the half, epic fail
How do you mine minerals?
XoXiDe
Profile Joined September 2006
United States620 Posts
May 29 2009 01:52 GMT
#2793
nice 3 at the end there, come on magic!
TEXAN
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
May 29 2009 01:52 GMT
#2794
who else was gonna make that shot
he's been making big shots all series
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
May 29 2009 01:53 GMT
#2795
man, Rashard Lewis is just so clutch
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igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-29 02:00:12
May 29 2009 01:59 GMT
#2796
The cavs play well with good ball movement. They play well when lebron gets to the rim. Then what the hell was the last 15 minutes?
Out of my small sample sizes of observation, lebron off the ball works well. If lebron holds the ball, the entire offense stops, and he pulls up for a 3, gets to the rim, or drives and finds the lane blocked and puts up a pathetic jumpshot.

Most of the time there's no motion in their offense. I'm going to start counting how many passes make in their half-court possessions.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
May 29 2009 02:02 GMT
#2797
haha oh man, what happened
Kingkosi
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1215 Posts
May 29 2009 02:04 GMT
#2798
Howard is a beast and is sooo determined to take his team to the finals. I think they will close it out after half.
Twitter: @KingKosi
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
May 29 2009 02:04 GMT
#2799
Honestly, with halves like that, I can't see the Cavs as a championship caliber team. That was pathetic. How can they keep blowing gargantuan leads like that?
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
May 29 2009 02:19 GMT
#2800
hahahahahahaha

fuck you ohio.

COME ON ORLANDO
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