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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
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epicdoom
United States489 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On March 25 2009 06:22 Lemonwalrus wrote: I know you are mad, but what do you really hope to accomplish with that post? I would honestly suggest that you do as Chill is doing, and leave the subject alone, the only thing this will lead to is bannings and more hurt feelings. Sounds sappy, but whatever. Edit: Nevermind, the lockdown icon means you went too far. hah.... | ||
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Klaz
Ireland334 Posts
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Railxp
Hong Kong1313 Posts
- I too had huge enjoyment initially reading this thread. ROFLed so hard at thread title - Didnt really love watching starcraft until i started to watch Klaz's commentaries. As many have said, -Analysis but +Excitement - Enjoyment of thread quickly turned into disgust at the mud-throwers on both ends. - Quite amused + disgusted to see authonomy middle aged adults deteriorate into whinny trolls like teens with +vocab. Something just isnt right when the Usr display picture is some middle age guy with mustache whine and go "thats not fair! thats it! im not playing anymore! i QUIT >=(" Congrats, the internet does not care. - VERY amused that authonomy editors/admins didnt give a ratsass about what the regulars thought, and just welcomed the publicity. - Disgusted by the amount of inter-masturbation required just to get onto editor's desk on authonomy side - Didn't expect the lack of support (not to say attacking, just no support) from TL's (yes, generalizing) for a fellow SC enthusiast who finish writing a book. - Most appalling to see how two entirly different but hugely intelligent communities crash and fracture to reveal worms and uglies in the underbelly - thought Shadow Rush was rather bm (even though i rofled), although it games the system just like klaz's book did, it was done as a joke and probably creates more sc/klaz hate on authonomy side. - Read some good stuff on authonomy, much thanks for introducing me to that website - (correct if wrong) cant help but feel theres a bit of condescension when ppl say that klaz's commentaries are not as in depth as others, agree with those saying klaz deserves more respect on TL, since hes like a major admissions recruiter and is at forefront of promoting esports and fighting the old "gamer" stigma. (Gamers write intelligent books and lead constructive lives AND get marred too! not just live in mum's basement.) - For better or worse, he has publicity atm, and is a resource to TL community, even if you think "omg his voice is annoying" and poke fun with "haigaisthisisklazartbringingyouanotheraudiocommentary" 1 line posts. They remind me of the "1a2a3a4a5a" rips on protoss. | ||
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achap54
United States49 Posts
For comparison, Klazart's YouTube video regarding his book on Authonomy has had 7,500 views, and only two of his 322 commentary videos presently posted on YouTube have had in excess of thirty-five thousand views. Only one of his last eighteen commentary videos has exceeded ten thousand views. TL rules. Edit: Spelling | ||
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Mockingbird
United Kingdom33 Posts
Me, the more the merrier, if folk want to read my stuff even better as far as I'm concerned, this has happened, now to make the best of it, not the worst. | ||
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inlagdsil
Canada957 Posts
On March 25 2009 08:01 achap54 wrote: This thread has now had 35,000 views. That's immense publicity for Klazart and Authonomy. For comparison, Klazart's YouTube video regarding his book on Authonomy has had 7,500 views, and only two of his 322 commentary videos presently posted on YouTube have had in excess of thirty-five thousand views. Only one of his last eighteen commentary videos has exceeded ten thousand views. TL rules. Edit: Spelling Note that the number of views is the number of times any page in this thread has been opened. Therefore each of us who is following this thread may have contributed 50 views or some even more. On youtube, the number of views corresponds much more closely to the number of people who have seen the video. That said, this is incredible publicity. | ||
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Mooga
United States575 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll83/nremind/klazthread666.jpg) the end is near | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On March 25 2009 07:17 Railxp wrote: - (correct if wrong) cant help but feel theres a bit of condescension when ppl say that klaz's commentaries are not as in depth as others, agree with those saying klaz deserves more respect on TL, since hes like a major admissions recruiter and is at forefront of promoting esports and fighting the old "gamer" stigma. (Gamers write intelligent books and lead constructive lives AND get marred too! not just live in mum's basement.) Of course there will be a condescending tone when saying that someone's commentary lacks depth, no shit? A site that focuses heavily on accuracy in the interpretation of the pro-scene bashes an amateur's outlook on the game and you are surprised? I don't see how he is fighting the old "gamer" stigma besides what he said on authonomy, which is just word-of-mouth and not a direct contradiction to the stereotype. | ||
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
These have dissappeared since they began to get good players to do them, but wasn't that quite a bit after they began taking apart the commentators? I'm not going to stand here and bash the old write-ups, but it seems kind of mean of TL to bully the english commentators so badly due to their lack of knowledge... I'd just rather everyone could get along and this pointless arguing would just end... | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On March 25 2009 10:55 Piy wrote: Weren't there quite alot of technical faults with the old TL write-ups? These have dissappeared since they began to get good players to do them, but wasn't that quite a bit after they began taking apart the commentators? I'm not going to stand here and bash the old write-ups, but it seems kind of mean of TL to bully the english commentators so badly due to their lack of knowledge... I'd just rather everyone could get along and this pointless arguing would just end... Old being the key word here. Since the current level of accuracy is greater, it is justifiable for people to be judgmental of Klaz. I am not saying that what he does is shit, I think everyone has the right to try to do things they like the way they want to, but there will always be critics and opposing parties and that is normal, it's inevitable. The way I see it, it's like fastest vs. melee maps on USEast or something. Fastest players being Klazart fans, melee players being TL members that support a higher level of commentating and are critical of his commentaries. If I need to elaborate, let me know. | ||
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
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only_human89
United States212 Posts
On March 25 2009 11:02 fanatacist wrote: Old being the key word here. Since the current level of accuracy is greater, it is justifiable for people to be judgmental of Klaz. I am not saying that what he does is shit, I think everyone has the right to try to do things they like the way they want to, but there will always be critics and opposing parties and that is normal, it's inevitable. The way I see it, it's like fastest vs. melee maps on USEast or something. Fastest players being Klazart fans, melee players being TL members that support a higher level of commentating and are critical of his commentaries. If I need to elaborate, let me know. dude tl commentators are no better. they the same obvious boring stuff you would hear from any of the youtube commentators. tasteless and artosis do not count as tl commentators. they work for esports and are just members of this site like you or me. | ||
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Railxp
Hong Kong1313 Posts
On March 25 2009 10:39 fanatacist wrote: Of course there will be a condescending tone when saying that someone's commentary lacks depth, no shit? A site that focuses heavily on accuracy in the interpretation of the pro-scene bashes an amateur's outlook on the game and you are surprised? I don't see how he is fighting the old "gamer" stigma besides what he said on authonomy, which is just word-of-mouth and not a direct contradiction to the stereotype. Didnt say i was surprised about this point, in fact, "surprise" doesnt even come up in that bullet. TL and Klaz serve two different purposes/groups. But i AM surprised by the hostility/rivalry whenever his name pops up on TL. You dont see a calculus prof attack a middle school math teacher's work. Merely expanding into other online communities while proudly carrying the "gamer" title does the work. If you go on authonomy site and read their forums, you will find threads regarding gamers that would never have been there. AND there are now authonomy members on TL, middle aged book writers suddenly exploring sc esports. Who knows, maybe one of the many threads on the site might just stir their curiosity enough to watch a FPVOD. How many new non-gamers have you brought into this board? | ||
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
On March 25 2009 11:06 Piy wrote: k..I just think you're trying to cultivate a fight between two parties that aren't interested in fighting anymore. I'm not starting a fight I'm stating my opinion in response to Rail. Will get back to this later. | ||
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
Everyone talks about things from a game analysis standpoint but to entertain the masses (D-, D) you just need an interesting commentator (Irish accent) who can get excited and talk well. If he's also spent this tremendous amount on time authoring a novel that is also highly commendable. | ||
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FieryBalrog
United States1381 Posts
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Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
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noob4ever
Denmark59 Posts
I enjoy and support all the established commentators, in random order: Cholera, Tasteless, Artosis, Moletrap, Diggity, Klazart, Rise, NukeTheStars, superDan. Don´t wanna mention those, that rarely put out a commentary. They give me free enjoyable entertainment. Huge thx. for the effort, I love you all. Off course there are commentators I'm not so fond off, I just don't watch those, problem solved. I remember back in the days with Replay with audio and mp3´s the focus was mainly on teaching, thats good and all, but Klaz was the first who successfully focused on the entertainment value of commentaries. I think that is an important distinction, is the commentary for entertainment or education? In my mind the biggest success will come from the entertainment segment. Its like watching a game of soccer on television, no one watches it to become better at actually playing themselves, and of course the league trainers could bash on the television-commentators for being noobs, but that would just be retarded. | ||
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