I just played a pvz on LT where i swear i played.. pretty much perfect(of course that cant be true but it felt like it).

It was vs Xd's~kiwi, about 25-30 minutes.

At the end, when i asked what i did wrong he said 'i had 12 hats'.

I then repeated 'what did i do wrong'.

he told me there wasn't anything I could do.

What's your guys' opinion on long range pvz on non island maps?

I find it extremely one sided.

btw all kiwi did was go mass crack/hydra with ups and powered like crazy.

I went dt/zeal/storm/arch/really light goon/obs.

OrangeTerran

United States963 Posts

December 04 2002 21:24 GMT

don't let him contain you with lurker and expand with alot of cannons at each expansion

OrangeTerran

United States963 Posts

December 04 2002 21:24 GMT

get some drop or dt to delay his expanding as well

Liquid.Venice

United States916 Posts

December 04 2002 21:34 GMT

I didn't want *help* i wanted to know your opinions on it.

Also, questions for you guys:

In zvz, what do the gosus do if the opponent goes something like 3hat 1base hydra(cause i always see them go with 11 pool builds).

and one other thing, im dying for good games here.
Im a regular sc player, no one knows me.
I would love to play every person here, so if anyone wants to pls message me on DaRk.Flaw- ill either be on useast or europe(prolly useast).

Liquid`Nazgul

22427 Posts

December 04 2002 21:42 GMT

he told me there wasn't anything I could do.

That pretty much sums it up yes.

Fox

United States408 Posts

December 04 2002 21:47 GMT

Long position z vs p. If you are talking best vs best on LT. 12/6, 3/9, 6/9. Basically you have you outplay him a bunch. But at the top levels it doesn't happen much so zerg win.

Honestly besides microing with perfect timing/macro perfect. You still can lose.

Gl

Shit Naz knows man, sometimes you play at your best and fucking hydra/lurker/ling are just way to much.

Fox

Liquid.Venice

United States916 Posts

December 04 2002 21:51 GMT

Im considering playing zvz instead of pvz.

Oh, and nazgul, could I pvp you sometime?

Just once ;P

rei

United States3594 Posts

December 04 2002 21:54 GMT

On December 05 2002 06:34 Kiddie wrote:
I didn't want *help* i wanted to know your opinions on it.

Also, questions for you guys:

In zvz, what do the gosus do if the opponent goes something like 3hat 1base hydra(cause i always see them go with 11 pool builds).

and one other thing, im dying for good games here.
Im a regular sc player, no one knows me.
I would love to play every person here, so if anyone wants to pls message me on DaRk.Flaw- ill either be on useast or europe(prolly useast).

hey man play with me, I belief we met during a game of wgtour. you defeated me, as protoss. I belief we can be partice partners.. my tvp is very good, but i just keep trying to perfect the bio terran freak taught me earlier on. it is mad power rush at the first 7 mins^^
oh yeah my account is art_of_ntt please look for me on europe and west and some times east

rei

United States3594 Posts

December 04 2002 21:55 GMT

oh yeah "my tvp is very good" i meant vs my tvz is very good O.o please don't take offense on it everybody, i just some newbi hehe

Liquid.Venice

United States916 Posts

December 04 2002 21:58 GMT

#10

Oh yeah
That was an amusing biotech rush.
Should have attacked sooner was its only problem.

AlmostSexy

United States150 Posts

December 04 2002 22:07 GMT

#11

Kiddie, i msged you today and you ignored=p Im on the name Stim)NinjA now

OrangeTerran

United States963 Posts

December 04 2002 22:09 GMT

#12

i don't see what you need an opinion on
there's always something you could do, especially if you got raped by kiwi's zerg

Liquid.Venice

United States916 Posts

December 04 2002 22:12 GMT

#13

ok, im going to try to be good mannered here.

First of all, if you think kiwi's zerg isnt good, try playing it pvz ok?

And second of all, this was a post for friendly conversation, you can't help me with the damn game if you don't even know what happened in it.

And ninja, i didnt ignore you, i dont think i was there ;P

TeCh)PsylO

United States3552 Posts

December 04 2002 22:13 GMT

#14

if pvz gets to crzy crack lings, your chances are limited

but i think the best bet is to not try to work mid, but rather distract/chz with temp drops, sairs, etc.. take islands and fend for life

my thoughts: dont let z get crzy crack lings.

RowdyBob

Australia206 Posts

December 04 2002 22:37 GMT

#15

Fully upg ultras are too powerful pvz imo.

Liquid`Ret

Netherlands4522 Posts

December 04 2002 22:45 GMT

#16

gotta expand fast....

then just upgrade/power with cannons to 10 gates.
zvz vs 3 hatch hydra...u just mutal gensei~
mass mutals with quicker expand as usual...and whenever he moves out of his base u hit his main hard..and put as many sunks up at ur exp as u need to stop his hydras...this could involve 8 sunks or so

but the thing is..whenever he moves u just comletely kill his main or drones..just do heavy damage...while he cant kill u cuz of the sunks...gg~ hydra sucks

Liquid.Venice

United States916 Posts

December 04 2002 22:50 GMT

#17

so u dont go lurker contain?

Cause the one game i tried 3hat hydra vs fast muta/ling i attacked as his expo was finishing, and i had 3 spores up at my main

Stim_Abuser

United States1277 Posts

December 04 2002 23:15 GMT

#18

you said you played "perfect" hm i doubt it because you could obviously of stormed better,expanded more, herrassed better i could go on all day :p maybe you just played to the best of your abilities which made it feel perfect but it wasnt enough as we all see

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