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SkepTicAL
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada872 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-06 16:34:28
March 06 2009 16:32 GMT
#321
To lzgamer's defence he's been playin a decent amount of kors this season and zvp is his weakest .
AeriALsLighT @AerialsLight
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
March 06 2009 16:33 GMT
#322
On March 07 2009 00:40 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2009 22:30 iG.ClouD wrote:
For example lzgamer always has good stats, but when you play him you always realize he's way weaker than what his records show and you realize the reason when you ask him game on iccup on any account with a winning record superior than 65% of games.


Hmm. I don't know about your level of play but in practice games and against top europeans I've seen lzgamer consistently win 60% of his games against b and b+ gamers.

He is mechanically weak but infact is an b+/a- level zerg. I'm sure alot of the non-korean terrans who post here (ret,aerials) can attest to his strength. I also don't know him to dodge koreans.

lz is terribad
unless he gets to ultralisks, then hes about as good as jaedong
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
SkepTicAL
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada872 Posts
March 06 2009 16:35 GMT
#323
lolol @ idra's post :D
AeriALsLighT @AerialsLight
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7581 Posts
March 06 2009 16:56 GMT
#324
On March 07 2009 01:33 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2009 00:40 AttackZerg wrote:
On March 06 2009 22:30 iG.ClouD wrote:
For example lzgamer always has good stats, but when you play him you always realize he's way weaker than what his records show and you realize the reason when you ask him game on iccup on any account with a winning record superior than 65% of games.


Hmm. I don't know about your level of play but in practice games and against top europeans I've seen lzgamer consistently win 60% of his games against b and b+ gamers.

He is mechanically weak but infact is an b+/a- level zerg. I'm sure alot of the non-korean terrans who post here (ret,aerials) can attest to his strength. I also don't know him to dodge koreans.

lz is terribad
unless he gets to ultralisks, then hes about as good as jaedong

hmm.

Who won your last game? I was disputing an example. As usual you are trolling nice people for no reason.
ErOs_LeO
Profile Joined August 2005
Australia270 Posts
March 06 2009 17:13 GMT
#325
this guy pretends being a progamer and i wouldn't be surprised if he were..
http://www.iccup.com/matchlist/573863/1x1.html
rANDY
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United Kingdom748 Posts
March 06 2009 17:14 GMT
#326
as bad as f91?
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
March 06 2009 17:49 GMT
#327
On March 07 2009 01:33 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2009 00:40 AttackZerg wrote:
On March 06 2009 22:30 iG.ClouD wrote:
For example lzgamer always has good stats, but when you play him you always realize he's way weaker than what his records show and you realize the reason when you ask him game on iccup on any account with a winning record superior than 65% of games.


Hmm. I don't know about your level of play but in practice games and against top europeans I've seen lzgamer consistently win 60% of his games against b and b+ gamers.

He is mechanically weak but infact is an b+/a- level zerg. I'm sure alot of the non-korean terrans who post here (ret,aerials) can attest to his strength. I also don't know him to dodge koreans.

lz is terribad
unless he gets to ultralisks, then hes about as good as jaedong

i recall our last game ended with you losing and me 200/200 mutas zvt on medusa.. if u forgot greg i can post the rep
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-06 18:24:13
March 06 2009 18:07 GMT
#328
On March 06 2009 22:30 iG.ClouD wrote:
Well you might have changed but I still remember you bragging about your stats in f list proudly saying you carefully dodge people with good records. Nothing that matters yes, but foreign players with good stats at the end of iccup seasons are always a big question mark. For example lzgamer always has good stats, but when you play him you always realize he's way weaker than what his records show and you realize the reason when you ask him game on iccup on any account with a winning record superior than 65% of games. Sometimes dodging is a wise choice, especially when you are having a losing record for the day and you want to keep playing anyway. But seriously what's the point in playing more than 60-70 games against bad foreign players without getting any decent practice. That's just wasted time. b+ koreans can all kill china best lineup while most a- foreign players looks like c- compared to them, but yeah if you are having fun deceiving people with your fake rank and fake stats go ahead. Don't expect the guys who understand the situation to greet you or anything tho.

allways has good stats??? Dont know what your "allways" looking at.. but i played 500 TSL games vs. EVERYONE.... i didnt dodge... and dont dodge.. i dont know what your problem is with me.. but if you feel the need to post how "im better then him and i dont dodge" congrats~
You and idra should get together so you both can cry after getting raped. AFK~
Baalzamon
Profile Joined April 2007
Germany106 Posts
March 06 2009 18:21 GMT
#329
ahh, what is the good old who is who thread without some bitching and flaming?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
March 06 2009 18:32 GMT
#330
On March 07 2009 00:43 Pioneer wrote:
SuMaDream

Seems like he's play ICCup this season (was B+ last season, playing Terran on the account so I don't think it's a friend or anything).

nOtable..

Since he's part of the team I guess this is nOtable[fOu] though I thought he played P or T (though I'm probably remembering wrong).


Nevermind, notable[fou] is a Protoss. I have no idea who this guy is.


2-3 seasons ago notable was thezerg[hyo]
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
March 06 2009 18:47 GMT
#331
On March 06 2009 12:01 fearus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2009 08:47 Xeris wrote:
On March 06 2009 06:35 p4NDemik wrote:
Why on earth would you want to dodge the pros?


I would want to dodge pros. Why would I want to play a game where I absolutely know I have 0 chance of winning and I'm going to get ass-raped? I don't know about anyone else but that's not fun for me. I have much more fun playing games I have a chance of winning =P


So.. you can shoot some hoops with your dad or with MJ.. but you'll choose your old man cause you might have a chance of winning....

Goodjob...


Difference, I play basketball competitively and care much more about playing basketball to keep improving my skills.

Think about it this way. I'm the general of the Ethiopian army. Am I gonna be like "HEY LETS ATTACK USA BECAUSE IT WILL GIVE US GOOD COMBAT TRAINING" - no, because my army would get raped so badly I wouldn't even learn anything from it. I stopped caring about playing good BW players in 2004-2005, whether I play JoeShmo C- newb or some C- Korean who will get A+ by the end of the season doesn't make a difference to me... other than Korean guy will totally own me to the point where I'm not having fun in the game cuz I'm losing so badly.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
dream-_-
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1857 Posts
March 06 2009 18:59 GMT
#332
On March 07 2009 03:47 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2009 12:01 fearus wrote:
On March 06 2009 08:47 Xeris wrote:
On March 06 2009 06:35 p4NDemik wrote:
Why on earth would you want to dodge the pros?


I would want to dodge pros. Why would I want to play a game where I absolutely know I have 0 chance of winning and I'm going to get ass-raped? I don't know about anyone else but that's not fun for me. I have much more fun playing games I have a chance of winning =P


So.. you can shoot some hoops with your dad or with MJ.. but you'll choose your old man cause you might have a chance of winning....

Goodjob...


Difference, I play basketball competitively and care much more about playing basketball to keep improving my skills.

Think about it this way. I'm the general of the Ethiopian army. Am I gonna be like "HEY LETS ATTACK USA BECAUSE IT WILL GIVE US GOOD COMBAT TRAINING" - no, because my army would get raped so badly I wouldn't even learn anything from it. I stopped caring about playing good BW players in 2004-2005, whether I play JoeShmo C- newb or some C- Korean who will get A+ by the end of the season doesn't make a difference to me... other than Korean guy will totally own me to the point where I'm not having fun in the game cuz I'm losing so badly.


Thats one of the worst analogies I have ever heard.
kroko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland2136 Posts
March 06 2009 19:28 GMT
#333
Made perfect sense to me. Except I dont play like that, I try to play vs pros(eventho i lose) so I can 'brag' to my friends
I have Sick Timing and UnReal Macro
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
March 06 2009 19:33 GMT
#334
agreed, i'd rather get raped by a pro than get raped by some shitty guy, at least then i have an excuse
Entusman #12
SkepTicAL
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada872 Posts
March 06 2009 19:47 GMT
#335
It depends what you are trying to accomplish in bw though. 95% of people here wish to get better and would look to play people of higher skill to get a taste of what it's like to play competitively against the big boys, in xeris' case, he plays for the fun and competitiveness of being in a tight game vs someone, and not getting pulverized to learn new things because he isn't concerned with increasing his skill as a player .
AeriALsLighT @AerialsLight
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7581 Posts
March 06 2009 19:56 GMT
#336
Thats why aerials plays with me. To learn.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
March 06 2009 21:08 GMT
#337
On March 07 2009 01:56 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2009 01:33 IdrA wrote:
lz is terribad
unless he gets to ultralisks, then hes about as good as jaedong

hmm.
Who won your last game? I was disputing an example. As usual you are trolling nice people for no reason.


GOLD

well...cows > anything late game
cw)minsean(ru
Murk
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada304 Posts
March 06 2009 21:35 GMT
#338
cows? is that what were calling them now? lmao
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
March 06 2009 21:51 GMT
#339
its not sucha big deal getting raped, as long as you bring alot of lube...

they've always been called cows man, remember the cowboy?
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
midou
Profile Joined April 2008
Bulgaria1168 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-06 22:44:44
March 06 2009 22:44 GMT
#340
White-Ra is such a baller.. I'm sure you'll find at least 4-5 pros in his reppack at the end of the season (hope he releases one).
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