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Murk
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada304 Posts
February 23 2009 23:09 GMT
#581
If idra was manner, people wouldnt make forum posts about him, the man is bm as fuck, he would give hovz a run for his money
NahLGaE
Profile Joined February 2008
Korea (South)523 Posts
February 23 2009 23:10 GMT
#582
On February 24 2009 07:47 Rekrul wrote:

You're right two wrongs don't make a right. Three wrongs, the amount of times you got caught hacking, don't make a right either. Maybe thats why every time you post anywhere you're always trying to take the moral high ground and act like a manner guy. Living up to the publics expectations of you and not giving them a chance to remember when you were the most notoriously bad mannered starcraft player out only to feed your own ego by beating people with hacks. Maybe you should teach Idra your ways of public relations...you've come a long way and made almost everyone forget! Nice!


while i find all of this amusing, i would agree with testie that even if a guy was being an arrogant stuck up douchebag, it really doesnt give everyone else a free license to be the same and flame him for it. but on the other hand it _is_ the internet and who can really speak of 'rights'... right..?

but that part i quoted was not fair and simply character assasination, a dirty tactic often used in politics (the whole smear campaign). calling someone out on a past moral failing in lieu of a direct logical response to discredit whatever they say from that basis is just not fair. i dont really care either way but thats one thing that annoys me and i wanted to point it out. flame away...
마재윤.
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
February 23 2009 23:11 GMT
#583
On February 24 2009 08:06 FlamyDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2009 07:59 minus_human wrote:
[
Testie strikes me as the older guy on the scene, who despite his past has matured. That's why he's acting with a strong morality and that's why he's more lenient to Idra. I think it's really childish to say that after all these years he's trying to prove anything.

Have you matured, Rekrul? I for one think, that while this thread could have been avoided, it was necessary. The way you did it though was uncalled for, especially since you knew what type of response you would get from the community.

You yourself said you love to stir shit up. The big question is why, and the answer isn't so hidden as you think.



How was this thread uncalled for? A lot of people here felt this way about idrea and rekrul voiced it.
I am however starting to wonder if Idra isn't some /b/tard that's trolling all of us..



read again please.

I said this thread was NECESSARY, but the rude way Rekrul started it was over the top and he knew it would eventually lead to a raging flamewar. All I said is that he could have been more of a diplomat, but I guess that's not like him, not on TL
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
February 23 2009 23:12 GMT
#584
Stop the mud-slinging already. Think of Idra what you will, but this isn't a proper way to solve anything.
I find it quite disappointing that this thread still hasn't been closed.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
February 23 2009 23:15 GMT
#585
On February 24 2009 08:10 NahLGaE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2009 07:47 Rekrul wrote:

You're right two wrongs don't make a right. Three wrongs, the amount of times you got caught hacking, don't make a right either. Maybe thats why every time you post anywhere you're always trying to take the moral high ground and act like a manner guy. Living up to the publics expectations of you and not giving them a chance to remember when you were the most notoriously bad mannered starcraft player out only to feed your own ego by beating people with hacks. Maybe you should teach Idra your ways of public relations...you've come a long way and made almost everyone forget! Nice!


while i find all of this amusing, i would agree with testie that even if a guy was being an arrogant stuck up douchebag, it really doesnt give everyone else a free license to be the same and flame him for it. but on the other hand it _is_ the internet and who can really speak of 'rights'... right..?

but that part i quoted was not fair and simply character assasination, a dirty tactic often used in politics (the whole smear campaign). calling someone out on a past moral failing in lieu of a direct logical response to discredit whatever they say from that basis is just not fair. i dont really care either way but thats one thing that annoys me and i wanted to point it out. flame away...

I think Rekrul's point was that Testie improved from being hated on for so long by the community about his hacking, so as hated as Idra might feel right now, it can turn around if he just manners up like Testie did.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Darkmole
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States900 Posts
February 23 2009 23:17 GMT
#586
On February 24 2009 08:12 Scorch wrote:
Stop the mud-slinging already. Think of Idra what you will, but this isn't a proper way to solve anything.
I find it quite disappointing that this thread still hasn't been closed.

Why would this thread be close???
Im pretty sure about 70% of TL agrees what Rekrul just said and the way how he said it was perfect....
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
February 23 2009 23:20 GMT
#587
On February 24 2009 07:59 minus_human wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2009 07:47 Rekrul wrote:


You're right two wrongs don't make a right. Three wrongs, the amount of times you got caught hacking, don't make a right either. Maybe thats why every time you post anywhere you're always trying to take the moral high ground and act like a manner guy. Living up to the public's expectations of you and not giving them a chance to remember when you were the most notoriously bad mannered starcraft player out only to feed your own ego by beating people with hacks. Maybe you should teach Idra your ways of public relations...you've come a long way and made almost everyone forget! Nice!



Testie strikes me as the older guy on the scene, who despite his past has matured. That's why he's acting with a strong morality and that's why he's more lenient to Idra. I think it's really childish to say that after all these years he's trying to prove anything.

Have you matured, Rekrul? I for one think, that while this thread could have been avoided, it was necessary. The way you did it though was uncalled for, especially since you knew what type of response you would get from the community.

You yourself said you love to stir shit up. The big question is why, and the answer isn't so hidden as you think.


Have I matured? Fuck no. This is a cafeteria. Idras the kid on the varsity baseball team who sits the bench all season and still feels the need to pick on the kid that just got cut from the team. I'm the big fat retard with downsyndrome that doesn't like people picking on anyone so I take my macaroni and cheese, throw it in IdrA's face, and incite a food fight in the entire room.
why so 진지해?
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
February 23 2009 23:20 GMT
#588
On February 24 2009 08:17 Darkmole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2009 08:12 Scorch wrote:
Stop the mud-slinging already. Think of Idra what you will, but this isn't a proper way to solve anything.
I find it quite disappointing that this thread still hasn't been closed.

Why would this thread be close???
Im pretty sure about 70% of TL agrees what Rekrul just said and the way how he said it was perfect....


yeah and regardless, it was still necessary for people to voice their opinions, and that has been accomplished despite all the flames and retards
Insane Lane
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States397 Posts
February 23 2009 23:23 GMT
#589
For some reason this reminds me of "Incontrol's Playground"... huh...
EGMachine
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1643 Posts
February 23 2009 23:33 GMT
#590
On February 24 2009 08:20 Rekrul wrote:


Have I matured? Fuck no. This is a cafeteria. Idras the kid on the varsity baseball team who sits the bench all season and still feels the need to pick on the kid that just got cut from the team. I'm the big fat retard with downsyndrome that doesn't like people picking on anyone so I take my macaroni and cheese, throw it in IdrA's face, and incite a food fight in the entire room.

Best post in this thread LOL
I'm like, the coolest
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
February 23 2009 23:33 GMT
#591
On February 24 2009 08:17 Darkmole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2009 08:12 Scorch wrote:
Stop the mud-slinging already. Think of Idra what you will, but this isn't a proper way to solve anything.
I find it quite disappointing that this thread still hasn't been closed.

Why would this thread be close???
Im pretty sure about 70% of TL agrees what Rekrul just said and the way how he said it was perfect....

And 70% of your 70% flame mindlessly. Normally people get banned for insulting a seasoned TL member. Much better threads have been closed down because the flames got out of hand. Nothing good will come out of this thread and it should now be sufficiently clear that everyone and their grandmother thinks Idra is an asshole. I'm in no way defending Idra, I'm just saying it's enough now. Let's be civilized again.
polarwolf
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
924 Posts
February 23 2009 23:35 GMT
#592
rekrul is by far my most favorite poster, he is entertaining as hell and his threads make sure that the entertainment does not end that quickly.

now continue to slash each other throats, me like!

But on topic: Usually those are the biggest noobs who trashtalk their opponent about using bad newbie strategies on them that secure them the win. So in my eyes Idra is just a huge newbie who has a major deficit in maturity.

Someone asked how Idra communicates with his korean teammates: for typing "GG" all day long you don't need much Korean language I guess
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
February 23 2009 23:37 GMT
#593
The only reason Rekrul made this thread is to have some e-drama which he loves and you guys are giving it all the attention it gets.

To me Idra has always been an arrogant classless idiot since he got semi-decent at Starcraft. Not only the ridiculous excuse-making, but also the Europe bashing etc. He writes it off about being joking, but it's not funny at all. I don't mind a little (self-)bashing but people like Idra take it way over the top and don't know when to stop. If you do know when to stop people wouldn't think of you as a classless loser.

I understand though, it's because he never amounted to anything in America in social standards that he has to act high and mighty once he reaches something. I just see it as underdeveloped social interactivity skills or whatever. He got picked on in elementary and high school for being pretty nerdy, got away from the world with Starcraft, got good at it and is now on a high horse for the first time in his life. Kind of the same thing as a fat female office manager being a bitch to her employees (Wanted anyone?) after she has been picked on in her entire high school life. It probably has to do with a good deal of maturity issues as well.

When it comes down to it though; he's overly defensive and can't take a loss resulting in him being a classless immature kid and creating a shitstorm like this with the the help of a rekrul-catalyst. The only reason people still respect him is because he's good at a computer game that no-one will care about in 5 years tops. Yay for Idra.

All in all he could definitely learn from shit like this if he takes away the arrogance and pride within him but I doubt he's able to. If he doesn't want to change his ways towards the public he shouldn't talk to the public at all (like those pre-game chats or the post-game comments).
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mIsUZu
Profile Joined August 2008
New Zealand528 Posts
February 23 2009 23:38 GMT
#594
On February 24 2009 07:47 Rekrul wrote:
You're right two wrongs don't make a right. Three wrongs, the amount of times you got caught hacking, don't make a right either. Maybe thats why every time you post anywhere you're always trying to take the moral high ground and act like a manner guy. Living up to the publics expectations of you and not giving them a chance to remember when you were the most notoriously bad mannered starcraft player out only to feed your own ego by beating people with hacks. Maybe you should teach Idra your ways of public relations...you've come a long way and made almost everyone forget! Nice!


Grudgematch between rekrul and Testie would be fantastic.
Why So Serious?!
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
February 23 2009 23:40 GMT
#595
sigh
just because you CAN get the attention doesn't make you less of a whore

Your points were mostly valid

your attitude is crap for my personal taste, but whatever
EGMachine
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1643 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-23 23:41:54
February 23 2009 23:41 GMT
#596
Grudgematch between rekrul and Testie would be fantastic.


no it would be a rape
I'm like, the coolest
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7230 Posts
February 23 2009 23:42 GMT
#597
Thread gets better and better. Now Testie, of all people, is lecturing on manner starcraft play!
日本語が分かりますか
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
February 23 2009 23:43 GMT
#598
On February 24 2009 08:37 Twisted wrote:
The only reason Rekrul made this thread is to have some e-drama which he loves and you guys are giving it all the attention it gets.

To me Idra has always been an arrogant classless idiot since he got semi-decent at Starcraft. Not only the ridiculous excuse-making, but also the Europe bashing etc. He writes it off about being joking, but it's not funny at all. I don't mind a little (self-)bashing but people like Idra take it way over the top and don't know when to stop. If you do know when to stop people wouldn't think of you as a classless loser.

I understand though, it's because he never amounted to anything in America in social standards that he has to act high and mighty once he reaches something. I just see it as underdeveloped social interactivity skills or whatever. He got picked on in elementary and high school for being pretty nerdy, got away from the world with Starcraft, got good at it and is now on a high horse for the first time in his life. Kind of the same thing as a fat female office manager being a bitch to her employees (Wanted anyone?) after she has been picked on in her entire high school life. It probably has to do with a good deal of maturity issues as well.

When it comes down to it though; he's overly defensive and can't take a loss resulting in him being a classless immature kid and creating a shitstorm like this with the the help of a rekrul-catalyst. The only reason people still respect him is because he's good at a computer game that no-one will care about in 5 years tops. Yay for Idra.

All in all he could definitely learn from shit like this if he takes away the arrogance and pride within him but I doubt he's able to. If he doesn't want to change his ways towards the public he shouldn't talk to the public at all (like those pre-game chats or the post-game comments).


great post.

i'm going for the twisted band wagon :D
I am not good with quotes
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
February 23 2009 23:43 GMT
#599
On February 24 2009 08:40 minus_human wrote:
sigh
just because you CAN get the attention doesn't make you less of a whore

Your points were mostly valid

your attitude is crap for my personal taste, but whatever


dude, i am an attention whore, if you don't like it get the fuck out of my thread you're only feeding my fire
why so 진지해?
Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
February 23 2009 23:46 GMT
#600
Rekrul: The Realest Man on Teamliquid.
You should make some youtube videos.
And I'm definitely gonna buy your book when it comes out.

P.S. Although abit graphic, the jacking off in the bathroom thing was hilarious.
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