EPTI started reading this threas. And I can not stop laughing.
New foreigner in Korea! (never heard of him) - Page 13
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I3oxerfan
215 Posts
I started reading this threas. And I can not stop laughing. | ||
Chill
Calgary26003 Posts
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
On February 22 2009 14:15 floor exercise wrote: Frag Dominant did not send anyone to Korea nor were they planning to. The extent of their involvement was creating a "starcraft" section on their roster and adding the french kids name. They don't know anything about the starcraft scene and don't care. They don't want a successful and legitimate foray into the starcraft scene because the foreign starcraft scene is not profitable, period. Some crazy french kid comes to them and says "hey look im in korea and I got 15-0 record iccup (pros play there!) let me start your sc division" and since it came at no cost and they have an interest in making a sc2 division since it actually makes financial sense, they said sure yeah whatever. The kid is essentially a fraud and their multigaming team is poorly run like most. It's all pretty lol worthy that they showed that much ignorance towards how pro starcraft works. But what's funnier is people taking so much offense to it. Should they have come to you personally and asked your permission to do this or something? Flaming them and taking personal offense over this while pretending you are somehow preserving the sanctity of professional starcraft is absurd. Go outside. Who knows what kind of saddles-like humor could have stemmed from this, but you guys got all self righteous over starcraft at the perceived slight of a multigaming team not seeking your blessing before adding a starcraft roster. Given that they didn't send him to korea, they have done little more than start a shitty SC clan basically. It's funny that this guy flew to korea and thinks he's going to accomplish anything. It is not an attack on your video game integrity or whatever you are going on about. Also the people flaming them on their forums makes the SC community look like a bunch of idiots They said "with the support of our sponsors" - that means laying out money in one way or another. Please point out where I said that "they sent him over there". I said that this could've been a successful foray. Yes, they didn't send him over there, but they intended on helping him out financially which is an abomination. On February 23 2009 04:48 Chill wrote: FD also asked how much it would cost to rebrand and rename Teamliquid.net to something FD related. We opened the discussion at $1M, but that wasn't recieved well :X Lol. | ||
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excelZerg
Canada69 Posts
If you have good enough knowledge of the game to make recruiting choices for a pro team, i think its pretty reasonable that you should be able to get past D+ without abusing. However, this is just my opinion. As a low level player myself i dont think i would be able to do the job Toad thinks he can. And why not pick up someone from korea who is already established in the amateur scene there, since they are looking for korean talent anyways? | ||
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Koiru
United States116 Posts
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benjammin
United States2728 Posts
On February 23 2009 04:48 Chill wrote: FD also asked how much it would cost to rebrand and rename Teamliquid.net to something FD related. We opened the discussion at $1M, but that wasn't recieved well :X Only 1M? You cheap sluts! | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27177 Posts
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pindleskin
New Zealand199 Posts
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
That should be expected and they should taken that into consideration. If FD really gave up on SC because random internet people flamed them (which I doubt is the true reason), then it's only their fault for being stupid. Not our community's fault. But they most likely gave up once they got a better look of the big picture and realized they would need a much bigger investment then simply putting some random french fraud name in their website. Like many people already pointed out. Many big multi-game teams already expanded into SC successfully (fnatic, mym, mtw..) simply because they did it right. FD failed because they suck, that is only their own fault and no one else's. The flaming from random internet users is part of the whole deal and by now they should have very well learned how to deal with it. | ||
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FreeDoM[YA]
Canada855 Posts
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
They've since deleted their newspost about ToaD, but it's quoted above and clearly reveals they had absolutely no idea what they were doing when they originally hired him (not as a staff member, but as a "professional StarCraft player" to "attend live events" "in the 2009 circuit". I'm baffled by how idiotic that original newspost was, or even the notion that ToaD could somehow let Frag Dominant "scout" the Korean SC scene. FD probably never expected the SC community to be this sensitive to news about "foreigners going to Korea" - perhaps they thought it wouldn't be a big deal to trump up this newspost. Obviously they made a mistake - previous posters (Sonuvbob) have pointed out how their ignorance is degrading to the SC community, and I agree. However, it should also be said that whoever opened this (http://fragdominant.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=4464) topic at Frag Dominant is a disgrace to himself, TeamLiquid, and the StarCraft community in general. Get a clue, using aggressive and obscene language isn't the best way to point out someone else's mistakes - you end up making yourself look like more of an idiot than FD (and that is really tough). | ||
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StRyKeR
United States1739 Posts
On February 23 2009 09:21 VIB wrote: You guys are giving too much importance to the flames. This is the fucking internet, it's not SC fans who flame or TL members who flames. Everyone flames mindlessly, equally. They did some big shit, they get flamed. That will never change no matter what sport or what community you're treating. That should be expected and they should taken that into consideration. If FD really gave up on SC because random internet people flamed them (which I doubt is the true reason), then it's only their fault for being stupid. Not our community's fault. But they most likely gave up once they got a better look of the big picture and realized they would need a much bigger investment then simply putting some random french fraud name in their website. Like many people already pointed out. Many big multi-game teams already expanded into SC successfully (fnatic, mym, mtw..) simply because they did it right. FD failed because they suck, that is only their own fault and no one else's. The flaming from random internet users is part of the whole deal and by now they should have very well learned how to deal with it. You can flame if you want, just don't associate your flame with TL, as Mani pointed out | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On February 23 2009 09:52 StRyKeR wrote: IMHO that isn't important as well. Don't get me wrong, I don't endorse flaming in any way, but I just think that random flaming from randoms in the internetz is just meaningless. If get to you and tell you:You can flame if you want, just don't associate your flame with TL, as Mani pointed out "Hey mister StRyKeR, in the name of Blizzard and the Russian Federation, I think you're a pile of crap" Do you hate Blizzard and the Russian Federation now? No, you just think I'm some random idiot posting crap in someone else's name. The only downside of those guys flaming them on their forums using TL name did, was that they stalled the whole process of getting the message across. If they were polite then FD would have understand the problem sooner and would have gave up sooner. That is all. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On February 22 2009 05:08 kemoryan wrote: Ok first of all when did I talk shit about Idra? Read again and don't invent stuff please. Actually you are the one who called that french guy TRASH, do you know everything about him, are you his friend? I was pointing out that telling who deserves what and who doesn't makes no sense, there are a lot of people that have worked hard to be good at starcraft, so does that mean we should make a ranking to tell who deserves it the most? It's just pointless, and even more pointless to get so mad about it. That french guy was lucky enough to get a contract with FD, that is all. personal pet peeve of mine, is when someone copies the formatting of my argument because you're too retarded to come up with your own, seriously. yes , he fucking is trash, 1. he abused iCCup 2. lol? -> who is going to pwn the world with Protoss? who is going to pwn the korean starcraft pro-gamer scene after february? who is going to pwn YOU and YOUR ASS pussies? it's him the only one the master of disaster PIERRE-JEAN ORGUES ToaD can't believe you're actually defending him, it's not, "the right place right time" when you cheated to get there, douche. And you keep trying to blow it off as "oh look it's not a big deal". IT IS. And hell, would you look at that, toad was dismissed(because it wasn't such a big deal, right?) k thx. + Show Spoiler + hey it's been awhile since i've trolled but he was just asking for it ;] | ||
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feathers
United States236 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + who is going to pwn the world with Protoss? who is going to pwn the korean starcraft pro-gamer scene after february? who is going to pwn YOU and YOUR ASS pussies? it's him the only one the master of disaster PIERRE-JEAN ORGUES ToaD | ||
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liger13
United States1060 Posts
On February 23 2009 13:09 feathers wrote: can some one link where he said + Show Spoiler + who is going to pwn the world with Protoss? who is going to pwn the korean starcraft pro-gamer scene after february? who is going to pwn YOU and YOUR ASS pussies? it's him the only one the master of disaster PIERRE-JEAN ORGUES ToaD lololol... hes Toss... and he still had to abuse to get D+? lol  | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21552 Posts
On February 23 2009 09:51 JWD wrote: Obviously they made a mistake - previous posters (Sonuvbob) have pointed out how their ignorance is degrading to the SC community, and I agree. I haven't even posted in this thread. :p | ||
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PrinceOfControl
Norway159 Posts
GOGO | ||
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SpaNiarD
Spain352 Posts
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ilbh
Brazil1606 Posts
lmao you better dont start if you are going to start that bad. oh btw, why are you calling toad a D+ player when he got his D+ ranking cheating?! he is not even D! he is D- | ||
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