Koreans that hate Japanese
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comabreaded
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KiD[ReD]
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young people dont hate as much because they werent alive yet.. but they still have a little bit of hate towards them everyone hates japan when it comes so soccer hehehe.. MAN i was watching that game.. japan scores the winning goal like 1 second before end of game.. so stupid ![]() | ||
Meat
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Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
I remember being hardcore-offended in pns by an american when I said something against team usa on wgt dunno his nick anymore, but it was no unknown one... | ||
Sky101
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I personally have never seen one, and I've seen probably 100+ koreans. Alot I'm still seeing now. | ||
Grotfang
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hmmm
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NoName
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GundamVX
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Bizkit
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GundamVX
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On October 12 2003 00:02 Bizkit wrote: but Korea once belong to Japan in the 1700-1800s ? Where did you get information like that??? -_-;; | ||
Gyo
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KiD[ReD]
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On October 11 2003 23:48 hmmm wrote: Alot of Asians hate Japan because of their imperialistic approaches in the early 1900s. Mostly coz they raped and killed a hell of alota people where ever they went. Strangely, most young Japanese are not aware of what the Japanese did in back then =/. Because Japan rewrote history. They didn't put it in their history books. | ||
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Gyo
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On October 12 2003 00:07 KiD[ReD] wrote: Because Japan rewrote history. They didn't put it in their history books. What the heck? if they rewrote history, in what kind of document would they rewrite it in? A history book. | ||
Gyo
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Bizkit
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Gyo
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Bizkit
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Gyo
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Remember During the winter olympics a while back? With Ohno and the Korean speed skater? Koreans haven't gotten over that. They hate him because he is half-japanese and the judges during that olympics always seemed to favor the americans. | ||
Gyo
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Bizkit
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KiD[ReD]
Canada2103 Posts
On October 12 2003 00:09 Gyo wrote: What the heck? if they rewrote history, in what kind of document would they rewrite it in? A history book. Wow you're smart. | ||
comabreaded
United States2166 Posts
On October 11 2003 23:14 Liquid`Meat wrote: i dont know why this is in the brood war forum. sorry. i thought i was in general. thanks for the info so far, everyone. | ||
Micron
United States208 Posts
The Emperor Has Conceded Due To The Great Inhumanity Of The Atom Bomb. | ||
comabreaded
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BlackJack
United States10465 Posts
On October 11 2003 23:56 NoName wrote: I hate Frenchies (other than elky) because Donald Rumsfeld and American conservatives tell me to. jca > elky hehe | ||
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Abang_Zealot
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did korea 'steal' sushi from japan? | ||
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Fedaykin
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Emlary
China3334 Posts
all chinese HATE japanese | ||
badteeth
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Servolisk
United States5241 Posts
On October 11 2003 23:15 Mandalor wrote: that's what germans, no matter what age, get to hear when travelling or even just surfing around in forums I remember being hardcore-offended in pns by an american when I said something against team usa on wgt dunno his nick anymore, but it was no unknown one... I used to have this Bulgarian roommate of the opinion that Germans still have a few of their characteristics/opinions from the war when: 1. They have a few beers in them. (heh, is that all the time in Germany?) 2. They talk about Bulgaria. He says Germans are racist toward gypsies and view Bulgaria as a gypsy country. So, some people have good reason to think that about Germans even if it's not right.. | ||
x[ReaPeR]x
United States3447 Posts
Untill the late 1990's there was a law in Korea that banned all Japanese Music, Videogames, etc. (part of the reason Koreans played PC games, because getting consoles in was too hard). Wbat's the deal with that? | ||
Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
On October 12 2003 15:48 Servolisk wrote: I used to have this Bulgarian roommate of the opinion that Germans still have a few of their characteristics/opinions from the war when: 1. They have a few beers in them. (heh, is that all the time in Germany?) 2. They talk about Bulgaria. He says Germans are racist toward gypsies and view Bulgaria as a gypsy country. So, some people have good reason to think that about Germans even if it's not right.. If these reasons are not right why is it ok then? lol 1. Every country has it's alcoholics lol. In fact Germany is ranked #3 in beer consumation after Czech Republic(#1) and USA(#2) 2. I've NEVER (and when I say NEVER I really mean it) heard a german saying bulgaria is a gipsy country or sort of. Bulgaria is becoming more and more one of the most popular country for vacation in germany I've personally never known any bulgarian, but I can't imagine a reason for a bulgarian to hate germans Germany for sure still has racists as well as other countries, but i think it's even less than in other countries in europe | ||
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Casper...
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Casper...
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gee, that would kinda do it, yes? | ||
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Brown
Afghanistan367 Posts
On October 12 2003 20:57 comabreaded wrote: I think it's sad that the Japanese are catching so much hate from other Asian countries. You can be mad at the government and the military, but what about the regular citizens? How do they deserve unfair treatment? It's not like I or any one else my age had anything to do with the wars or what happened. Fuck you. Read about the rape of Nanking, then go ask an average Japanese about it. At least 80% of Japanese deny it ever happened, they're taught the Asian countries that were occupied in WWII are over-dramatizing events and Japan didn't do a quarter of the bad things people claim (with facts, mass graves, pictures, eye-witness accounts). Japan WAS a brutal, imperialistic country that viewed itself somewhat like the nazies did, as a master race. Unlike Germans however, who fully understood what happened in WWII and the holocaust, the Japanese are blind and refuse to take full responsibilties for their actions. An average Japanese would be highly offended and shocked if he went into any of the WWII museums in China, Korea or Vietnam. | ||
hmmm
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hmmm
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Germany was wrong in WW2 but they admitted it, taught their kids about how its wrong to gas people and to beat little children. However most(not all) Japanese kids never really even learn in school that what they did in WW2, many still maintain that the U.S. was wrong to drop the nukes on them(maybe the U.S. was). | ||
Maenander
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Socke
Germany451 Posts
yes, that nuke was "wrong". | ||
ky[Z]
China1730 Posts
On October 12 2003 23:35 hmmm wrote: O yeah also, the Japanese kids aren't even taught about what their army did to the other Asian nations. So you can basically liken the hatred of Asian countries to the hate Jews have for Nazis. Germany was wrong in WW2 but they admitted it, taught their kids about how its wrong to gas people and to beat little children. However most(not all) Japanese kids never really even learn in school that what they did in WW2, many still maintain that the U.S. was wrong to drop the nukes on them(maybe the U.S. was). The japanese goverment basically changed most history books for the students. | ||
Bizkit
Sweden1137 Posts
On October 12 2003 23:35 hmmm wrote: O yeah also, the Japanese kids aren't even taught about what their army did to the other Asian nations. So you can basically liken the hatred of Asian countries to the hate Jews have for Nazis. Germany was wrong in WW2 but they admitted it, taught their kids about how its wrong to gas people and to beat little children. However most(not all) Japanese kids never really even learn in school that what they did in WW2, many still maintain that the U.S. was wrong to drop the nukes on them(maybe the U.S. was). most germans and EVEN militarys didn't know about the GAS camps and massmurdering of Jews untill after the war! U americans are so fking stupid to belive that Germans teach their children "TO NOT GAS PEOPLE CUZ IT BAD DUDE!!1" lol how fucked up doesnt that sound? And beat little children :/ cmon u can do more americans. U where taught than in school =((((? | ||
Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
But who really sucks is Berlusconi who called a politician from a german democratic party "Nazi" and another time defends Mussolini ... Pretty sad that such a man can be political leader of a modern european nation . | ||
x[ReaPeR]x
United States3447 Posts
On October 12 2003 23:51 Socke wrote: ummhm.. yes, that nuke was "wrong". I'm going to assume that was sarcasm. | ||
Sky101
United States1758 Posts
On October 12 2003 02:30 Micron wrote: Americans love the japanese, without them we wouldnt have shitty cars and VCRs and TVs that break after a year. Maybe if you hadn't been too poor you would have realized that THAT is how the economy prospers. An average American can afford to replace their stuff THAT is why we don't need reliable stuff, unlike the poorer countries who can't really afford anything that's why they have to make stuff that lasts. I mean, think about it... we create jobs that way, if everyone just drives a camry for a frigging 10 years who is going to buy the newer version? Business will be forced to cut jobs since demands would lower to the bottom and more people will be unemployed.... so on and so forth. | ||
Servolisk
United States5241 Posts
On October 12 2003 23:49 Maenander wrote: Servolisk Bulgaria is a bad example because Bulgaria was on germanys side in both worldwars, unlike Poland for example. I don't have any solid facts, that is just what I heard.. | ||
Brown
Afghanistan367 Posts
On October 13 2003 00:00 Bizkit wrote: most germans and EVEN militarys didn't know about the GAS camps and massmurdering of Jews untill after the war! U americans are so fking stupid to belive that Germans teach their children "TO NOT GAS PEOPLE CUZ IT BAD DUDE!!1" lol how fucked up doesnt that sound? And beat little children :/ cmon u can do more americans. U where taught than in school =((((? What the fuck is this shit? Read the thread asshole. Read it again. No, again. One more time. Do you understand the issues being discussed now, you stupid fuck? The issue is Japanese not teaching their children about their actions in World War II, while Germans understand fully what their country did. No one said that the German people knew about the holocaust while it was happening. Now go casterate yourself. | ||
hmmm
China299 Posts
On October 13 2003 00:00 Bizkit wrote: most germans and EVEN militarys didn't know about the GAS camps and massmurdering of Jews untill after the war! U americans are so fking stupid to belive that Germans teach their children "TO NOT GAS PEOPLE CUZ IT BAD DUDE!!1" lol how fucked up doesnt that sound? And beat little children :/ cmon u can do more americans. U where taught than in school =((((? Are you fucking retarded? Learn to read before you reply. I said that nowadays "most" Germans know about how the gassing of jews was wrong, and you know how the germans disposed of kids in concentration camps? They beat their heads against walls(yeah, its kind of first grade common sense not to do that). However I said that most Japanese don't even know about the rape of Nanking etc, therefore they deny even doing it, I don't blame them for it, I'm just saying thats why alot of asians hate the Japanese. I never said the nuke wasn't wrong, they people of Japan are still suffering from the effects. Oh yea and its "were." | ||
[vital]Myth
United States588 Posts
On October 13 2003 01:11 Sky101 wrote: Maybe if you hadn't been too poor you would have realized that THAT is how the economy prospers. An average American can afford to replace their stuff THAT is why we don't need reliable stuff, unlike the poorer countries who can't really afford anything that's why they have to make stuff that lasts. I mean, think about it... we create jobs that way, if everyone just drives a camry for a frigging 10 years who is going to buy the newer version? Business will be forced to cut jobs since demands would lower to the bottom and more people will be unemployed.... so on and so forth. [not to argue against anything you said, just thought that i should quote my motivation for making this post] i drive a hyundai (korean), and i've really gotten extremely good quality and service from them. aside from the awesome warranties, they compensated every owner of a 2002 santa fe with an extension of any of their three warranties because they had advertised the car at 183 hp and later realized it was only 171 (or something similar to that). i guess i have no fact-based opinion about how this relates to korean-japanese relations or contrasts, but thx korea for the car ![]() also, sky101 is right...that is what drives our economy, and furthermore, american cars are just as problematic and poorly crafted (if not worse) than any others commonly seen in america. | ||
dongneh_hero
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Casper...
Liberia4948 Posts
duke nukem. | ||
Gryffindor_us
United States5606 Posts
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comabreaded
United States2166 Posts
On October 12 2003 21:59 Casper... wrote: and starved korean children. gee, that would kinda do it, yes? I guess time is a big part of it. I don't hate Americans for bombing Japan (a slighter example), nor anyone of any other nationality. I can't blame you for somebody else's actions that you had nothing to do with. On October 12 2003 22:28 Brown wrote: Fuck you. I'm not denying that anything happened. So why are you offended? You're probably under the assumption that the average Japanese person DOES know what happened and they are just denying it out of pride and disbelief (which may or may not be true; I don't know). A lot of Chinese people are unaware of the Tianemen Square incident. They can't acknowledge it if they never heard about it. And what do today's generation of Japanese have to do with their ancestor's, many of whom probably were not fighting during the war, actions? How can you place blame on them? If your great-grandfather killed my great-grandfather, should I hate you? I'm not asking to spark beef. I just want some honest answers, so I appreciate the feedback so far. | ||
SpringWind
China230 Posts
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ProudToBeANoob
Thailand54 Posts
Some explain ironically that it's because they worship the sun whereas other asian countries worship the moon. | ||
TaiYa
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chinese hate japanese,nothing can change it untill they all know the true history. Fuck Japanese! | ||
TaiYa
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Bizkit
Sweden1137 Posts
On October 13 2003 02:25 hmmm wrote: Are you fucking retarded? Learn to read before you reply. I said that nowadays "most" Germans know about how the gassing of jews was wrong, and you know how the germans disposed of kids in concentration camps? They beat their heads against walls(yeah, its kind of first grade common sense not to do that). However I said that most Japanese don't even know about the rape of Nanking etc, therefore they deny even doing it, I don't blame them for it, I'm just saying thats why alot of asians hate the Japanese. I never said the nuke wasn't wrong, they people of Japan are still suffering from the effects. Oh yea and its "were." I guess u have been on one of those camps? I have and I can say it's all overhyped in your history books =( | ||
Tricky
China752 Posts
and since pornstar > hot chix so Korean ppl jelous nis Therefore the statment regarding why Korean hates japs can be explained logiclly ;p | ||
eCLipSe
United States7 Posts
As far as i noe all Koreans have at least some hatred against the Japanese because of the occupation during the 1900's. To answer to da person who said: y r we biased against Japanese citizens is because it iz so easy to find Japanese that say it was their right to invade other countries and that the US provoked and planned how Pearl Harbor would go down. That ultranationalistic attitude iz extremely annoying and Koreans have learned to hate Japanese for that. | ||
wtf
France71 Posts
When a country is stronger than the others, he has to be hated. Look at USA ... | ||
Deleted User 3420
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On October 13 2003 10:59 Bizkit wrote: I guess u have been on one of those camps? I have and I can say it's all overhyped in your history books =( what-the-fuck ? | ||
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BlackJack
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Whether they are over hyped or under hyped is almost a guess | ||
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DV8
United States1623 Posts
On October 13 2003 21:32 Bizkit wrote: yes but "hmmmm" the fuckin moron thinks germans teach their children not to gas jews =/ He didn't mean it literally, genius. HINT* HINT* this is sarcasm and im laying it on really thick due to how badly you interpret Hmmmm's post. | ||
Nevera
Finland677 Posts
On October 13 2003 21:32 Bizkit wrote: yes but "hmmmm" the fuckin moron thinks germans teach their children not to gas jews =/ Go find to a tall building to jump off from it. But oh no, it's the "taking shit literally man" or tslm. With your logic you don't get the big picture. Let me explain, find a tall building, at least 20 meters high. Climb to the ROOF, from there you jump, not from the ground floor okok??? You are free to use elevator or stairs to get to the ROOF. So now where are you going? Yes to the ROOF of the TALL building. Now the jumping off part, jump off the building (not on it, this could qualify as a jump off in some wierd sense) as in take a leap towards to ground and so that you fall all those 20+ meters downwards and die mr.tslm. In event of surviving repeat. Gl hf and knock yourself out. ![]() | ||
Bizkit
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On October 13 2003 22:05 Nevera wrote: Go find to a tall building to jump off from it. But oh no, it's the "taking shit literally man" or tslm. With your logic you don't get the big picture. Let me explain, find a tall building, at least 20 meters high. Climb to the ROOF, from there you jump, not from the ground floor okok??? You are free to use elevator or stairs to get to the ROOF. So now where are you going? Yes to the ROOF of the TALL building. Now the jumping off part, jump off the building (not on it, this could qualify as a jump off in some wierd sense) as in take a leap towards to ground and so that you fall all those 20+ meters downwards and die mr.tslm. In event of surviving repeat. Gl hf and knock yourself out. ![]() who are u to judge me? I enterped "hmmm" post in my way and not yours. Stfu u fuckin moron. *I hope u had real fun writing that post idiot, cuz I didn't even care to read it thru =( | ||
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bizkit, please don't even post at all. | ||
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Nevera
Finland677 Posts
On October 13 2003 22:33 travis wrote: nevera, think about you post before you post it :-( bizkit, please don't even post at all. Now what did I do? Did I kill him? Is he going to do it? NOOOOOOOOOO | ||
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Nevera
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DV8
United States1623 Posts
On October 13 2003 22:36 Bizkit wrote: I fucked up, where? U idiots claming something otherwise and me something diffrent and we cant agree thus starting flaming eachother.. You didn't fuck up, its not your fault your parents failed to produce a child with a fully functional brain. | ||
Sky101
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hmmm
China299 Posts
On October 13 2003 22:28 Bizkit wrote: who are u to judge me? I enterped "hmmm" post in my way and not yours. Stfu u fuckin moron. *I hope u had real fun writing that post idiot, cuz I didn't even care to read it thru =( You interpreted my post incorrectly. No my fault. Its ok I don't need a 5 page apology.(That was layered with some sarcasm too.) | ||
hmmm
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
On October 13 2003 02:02 Brown wrote: What the fuck is this shit? Read the thread asshole. Read it again. No, again. One more time. Do you understand the issues being discussed now, you stupid fuck? The issue is Japanese not teaching their children about their actions in World War II, while Germans understand fully what their country did. No one said that the German people knew about the holocaust while it was happening. Now go casterate yourself. No, really. He's right. | ||
chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
On October 13 2003 10:59 Bizkit wrote: I guess u have been on one of those camps? I have and I can say it's all overhyped in your history books =( So they didn't murder 6 million jews? By gassing them. Firing squads. Starvation. Disease. Whatever, I don't understand how it's over hyped. Explain? | ||
chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
On October 13 2003 21:32 Bizkit wrote: yes but "hmmmm" the fuckin moron thinks germans teach their children not to gas jews =/ He said they are taught it's WRONG. | ||
SoleSteeler
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SeBASTa
China1147 Posts
but i think it's unneccesary | ||
iGgs
Russian Federation772 Posts
On October 13 2003 22:41 DV8 wrote: You didn't fuck up, its not your fault your parents failed to produce a child with a fully functional brain. i love how nerds such as all those who 'flamed' nerva in this thread choose to decree direct insults at him rather than calmly discussing it like *civilized, mature* people , like dv8 who makes posts like the one above and thinks its funny or serves some kind of purpose | ||
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Klogon
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On October 13 2003 06:23 comabreaded wrote: If your great-grandfather killed my great-grandfather, should I hate you? yes, you should hate me because you wouldn't be here right now if my great-grandfather had killed your great-grandfather. | ||
DV8
United States1623 Posts
On October 14 2003 06:36 iGgs wrote: i love how nerds such as all those who 'flamed' nerva in this thread choose to decree direct insults at him rather than calmly discussing it like *civilized, mature* people , like dv8 who makes posts like the one above and thinks its funny or serves some kind of purpose nerva? or nevera?, Its funny that you say I flamed him when you obviously failed to see whom I am commenting too. | ||
subi
Korea (South)9 Posts
the reason why korean hate japaness. | ||
Petachu
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BlackJack
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comabreaded
United States2166 Posts
On October 14 2003 06:48 Klogon wrote: yes, you should hate me because you wouldn't be here right now if my great-grandfather had killed your great-grandfather. what? you cant jump to that conclusion at all. i think ur assuming that your great-grandfather would be killing mine before he had offspring. | ||
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hmmm
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Hot77.iEy
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xinzer
China11 Posts
I am a Chinese. | ||
Anal_Ripper
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dongneh_hero
Canada4 Posts
Get this, a week ago mayor of Tokyo, Shintaro Ishihara said the Japanese Empire liberated Asia from foreign imperialists(as if Japan was not foreign imperialist), and Koreans wanted the Japanese rule and the annexation of Korea was completely legal. This is just a monthly dose Koreans get from Japanese politicians. | ||
Comet
Japan10 Posts
Some Japanese say we did massacre, but we did NOT massacre THAT many people. And Koreans are making up those dead-bodies from nowhere. Before I start, I want to make sure when I speak, I dont speak for all the japanese. So if you you don't like me, hate me not anyother japanese or entire japanese country. Actually I did not know koreans(or asians) do hate Japan until few years ago.(I'm around 20) I was living in U.S.A for few years and I had few korean/chinese friends there, they were all so friendly and were interested in Japanese music/culture. I also have many korean friends on bnet. (I know online is a bit different but still) So, I recently got to know that many asians hate my "country" for what they've done in the past. Korean ask Japanese to admit Japan's crime and apologize. But I doubt if it's what really in their mind. I was talking to one korean one day. (It's been awhile and I don't remember small details but I try to reconstruct without manipulation) him: Japan has to apologize and compensate to korea. me: Japan has built many useful buildings and railways that are used for long time.(and some still are?) Japan gave alot of money to korea when their economy gone down. him: Japan still hasn't apologized yet. me: If Japan apologize to Korea and I apologize to everysingle korean I see, will you be happy and forgive us? He said "I dunno but you guys should do something..." After that argument, it really made me think koreans are bunch of crying ****suckers who just want excuses to complain in every opportunity they get.(not now...) Korea accuse Japan when Japan do something Korea don't like. But Korea never appreciate When Japan do something good to them. (I mean if we say "oh usa those yankees won war and walked away with only leaving dust behind" will americans be happy?) By the way I personally want americans to just stay the fuck out of this argument. "YOUR" country keep sending army to other countries like Afgan/Iraq. Killing bunch of innocent people, controling media and keep screaming "JUSTICE JUSTICE" like clown in B-rated movies. (you say terrorist, but terrorism didn't shut down entire capital from functioning) And now they want money from Japan and even asking to send Japan troops to Iraq.(I mean fuck off sweep off your own shit on your ass) But that's nothing to do with majority of U.S citizen you say? You can't be responsible for all the action your country makes are you? It's kind of my point. (well, you guys chose bush for a president though) By the way I don't hate americans I like them. About if Japan have to apologize to Korea or not, Japan probably should. But at same time Koreans shouldn't lock them selves in a dark closet and blindly cursing on Japan like if it's their daily duty. For my personal opinion, I don't give a **** how many Koreans are killed. It only makes me feel proud of it everytime Koreans complain about it. Well I just wanted to throw a stone into water since the whole thread was one-sided. And I have nothing towards Koreans or other Asians. | ||
Comet
Japan10 Posts
On October 14 2003 06:48 Klogon wrote: yes, you should hate me because you wouldn't be here right now if my great-grandfather had killed your great-grandfather. If you are saying you will hate me for killing your ancestor and I should hate you if your ancestor killed mine, only difference is who killed another. You're basiclly saying you hate us simply because you lost. travis . October 13 2003 20:40. Posts 1141 Oh, and from everything I've read, I believe dropping the a-bombs on japan was a good judgement call :-( Only people that a-bomb killed were bunch of innocent people who also suffered heavily from the war/Japanese-government. Only reason United State is justified and we're not is only because U.S.A won the war and we lost. Ofcourse war has to end with win. If Japan is crime for anything from the WWII, we didn't win the war. p.s. btw i just dont know how to make double-quote, this is first time im posting on this forums and is not even bw related... silly | ||
Kacas
Brazil3143 Posts
people dont think you are a monkey and u live in the middle of a florest =D | ||
eCLipSe
United States7 Posts
Dis post is prollie gonna get deleted buh if u were next to me i'd cut u up so much that the rape of nanjing would seem lyk nothing. Stupid arrogant Jap. | ||
EvilAngel
China74 Posts
If you guys know what Japan had done back in WWII and still refuse to admit the crime,even glorify it and modify their history book, you surely will hate them. And they are sill doing dirty things in the land of our country. Just check out latest news, you'll know. I think Japanese are the only animate being(sorry, I cant call them Human Being) in this planet can think of all kinds of ways to kill armless civilians. You think they have changed and wont do it again in the future? Wrong, they just dont have the power to do it now. Once they get the chance, they will not only try to conquer asia, but the whole world. Beware, guys!! If there'll be a movie Alien 5, computer graphic is totally unnecessary, a Japanese being will be perfect to fit this role. | ||
Comet
Japan10 Posts
Remember the world cup2002? Korea have obviously cheated in the final tournament vs Italy and Spain, but none of the news in Japan questioned about it, instead compliment Korea with a little few words they could come up with. I was in one Japanese online debate and everyone was saying "WTF NO NEWS POINTING IT OUT?" "may be Japanese government doesn't want any possible conflict with Korea" Btw didn't even FIFA admit there were so many "miss judges" afterwards? For the what has happened in the past, majority of Japanese do not care (it's more like do not know though) and minority of Japanese don't like Koreans for what they're doing "right now". Koreans ABUSING the fact that they've LOST and keep annoying Japanese. I mean we're not christian. We don't show our left cheek when you hit our right cheek. (allthough christian is one of the most blood-thirsty religion) Evil Angel: I am sorry but I don't know what has happened in china exactly. Only thing I know is that Japanese empire gloriously marched deep into China, and punished thousands of barbarians. (should I call them "chinese" ?) By the way do you know that there are so many Chinese thiefs in Japan growing everyyear commiting crime "right now" and getting threatable? If you think robbery is what we deserve, then how on the earth could you expect us to feel sorry for Chinese? If I meet Korean or Chinese in real life and they accuse me of what we've done in the war, I will apologize to them because it's just etiquette.(yea eclipse if you cut me up and then you're murderer) But just like you hate us for something I'm not responsible for, I also don't have good impression of asians. They come to my country, commit various brutal crimes, and walk away. (And it IS happening right now) You say you're not responsible for some shithead coming to Japan and creating bad reputation of your country? Well I'm not responsible for some of our ancestors killed some of your ancestors, "I" am not. (btw bunch of Koreans started killing Japanese that were in Korea when Japan lost the war. Korea had rights to do you say? then you had your revenge get the fuck over with it) | ||
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
You are being totally ignorant... not call them human? And Japan will kill us all if they had the chance? It seems like the other way around buddy... It seems like YOU want to kill Japan when you get the chance. And about the World Cup: In all sports, you agree to have a ref call everything to best of his ability. Any team can call "he was payed off!" any time a ref makes a bad call. But usually in those games there was many other opertunities to score and win the game. This happens in baseball a lot too as it's all up to the umpire. And just food for thought: even with all the "bad" calls in the Korea games, if Korea lost, do you think people would have even noticed? That's the thing, people don't complain about bad calls till they lose. So unless we get PERFECT refs (or like 100 of them surrounding the field) a game will never be called perfectly and there will always be some bad calls made to benifit one team or another. It's called Soccer. | ||
heyukek
United States10 Posts
On November 02 2003 21:31 Comet wrote: First of all, I did not learn full-history of what has happened during the war, but how many of you have anyway? Some of you even say Japanese school books are not telling the "truth" they excluded some bad things Japan have done.(I'm not denying this) But at same time, can you truely be sure that "YOUR" books are telling the truth? Some Japanese say we did massacre, but we did NOT massacre THAT many people. And Koreans are making up those dead-bodies from nowhere. Before I start, I want to make sure when I speak, I dont speak for all the japanese. So if you you don't like me, hate me not anyother japanese or entire japanese country. Actually I did not know koreans(or asians) do hate Japan until few years ago.(I'm around 20) I was living in U.S.A for few years and I had few korean/chinese friends there, they were all so friendly and were interested in Japanese music/culture. I also have many korean friends on bnet. (I know online is a bit different but still) So, I recently got to know that many asians hate my "country" for what they've done in the past. Korean ask Japanese to admit Japan's crime and apologize. But I doubt if it's what really in their mind. I was talking to one korean one day. (It's been awhile and I don't remember small details but I try to reconstruct without manipulation) him: Japan has to apologize and compensate to korea. me: Japan has built many useful buildings and railways that are used for long time.(and some still are?) Japan gave alot of money to korea when their economy gone down. him: Japan still hasn't apologized yet. me: If Japan apologize to Korea and I apologize to everysingle korean I see, will you be happy and forgive us? He said "I dunno but you guys should do something..." After that argument, it really made me think koreans are bunch of crying ****suckers who just want excuses to complain in every opportunity they get.(not now...) Korea accuse Japan when Japan do something Korea don't like. But Korea never appreciate When Japan do something good to them. (I mean if we say "oh usa those yankees won war and walked away with only leaving dust behind" will americans be happy?) By the way I personally want americans to just stay the fuck out of this argument. "YOUR" country keep sending army to other countries like Afgan/Iraq. Killing bunch of innocent people, controling media and keep screaming "JUSTICE JUSTICE" like clown in B-rated movies. (you say terrorist, but terrorism didn't shut down entire capital from functioning) And now they want money from Japan and even asking to send Japan troops to Iraq.(I mean fuck off sweep off your own shit on your ass) But that's nothing to do with majority of U.S citizen you say? You can't be responsible for all the action your country makes are you? It's kind of my point. (well, you guys chose bush for a president though) By the way I don't hate americans I like them. About if Japan have to apologize to Korea or not, Japan probably should. But at same time Koreans shouldn't lock them selves in a dark closet and blindly cursing on Japan like if it's their daily duty. For my personal opinion, I don't give a **** how many Koreans are killed. It only makes me feel proud of it everytime Koreans complain about it. Well I just wanted to throw a stone into water since the whole thread was one-sided. And I have nothing towards Koreans or other Asians. First of all, I am amazed by your ignorance. No wonder the Japanese are being hated by alot of people in the world not just in Asia. Have you read a book called "The rape of Nanking"???It tells the true and just stories and holocaust that's taken place in China. You guys raped, tortured and murdered more than 300,00 Chinese civilians. The world knows about it except Japanese. All the Australians know what you guys did in Korea and China and throughout the world. You chapped off PoW's head with a japanese sword during the war and no wonder the history books in Japan are not telling the truth. If you guys admit what you actually did..you will be paying billions of dollars of compensations to the victims. And it damages the reputation and image of your fucked up Emperor. Before you say anything, I suggest you to do some research. | ||
Comet
Japan10 Posts
I just want to point out that constant negative attitude of Koreans toward Japanese is getting them nowhere. Like I said at my previous post, I had korean friends and after we became friendly. I was interested in their country/culture. I found out simularities in customs and ways, I started to like Korea. I knew we had war before, but I thought we got along with it. (ignorance or innocence but we could both be happy without history) Then I found out about General Korean attitude towards Japan. I learned little bit that Japan did bad things.(I dont call it wrong things as it's considered wrong now only because Japan lost the war. Look at how many people in U.S.A today still thinking dropping A-Bomb was right decision) May be Koreans have reasons to hate Japan but once I exposed their anger and hatred toward Japan I got tired of it and started to dislike Koreans. Actually for majority of Japanese, Korea is a good neighbor to them. TV often shows many good things in Korea, good traditional food, and many tourists went/going to Korea. There are also few female Korean singers getting so famous and Japanese listening to their songs. Allthough it partly comes from ignorance, normal Japanese people do have good impression of Koreans. (in my opinion kind of) But once those innocent Japanese felt like they're hated for nothing they're responsible for, there's great chance they will become anti-korean. (just like I almost became one) Japanese are pathient people but are not saint. Eventhough if it comes from ignorance or not, Japanese people are at least trying to build up good relationship with Koreans. But yet some of Koreans still trying to hand the hatred to their children like it is holy ceremony to them. I understand Korea suffered by Japan alot during the war. But unless placing knife on neck of eachothers is what you want, Koreans should also start making effort to step closer. | ||
Comet
Japan10 Posts
I'm not here to discuss the "true-history" or what the fuckever it is. You can easily see I'm in the forum of bw site, and just wanted to give out what some of Japanese people think about what Korean/Chinese people think of Japanese. Not blah n blah country did blah n blah. (I know this whole discussion involved with history. You can accuse Japan for all day long just like someone else has done and going nowhere) I admit I don't have enough knowledge of these history stuffs. But so WHAT? I would be careless if our Holy Japanese Empire have totally dominated poor australia and turned entire country into dust. I would be careless. I'm not here to discuss entire WWII history I'm here to give out "MY" opinion. | ||
EvilAngel
China74 Posts
EvilAngel, You are being totally ignorant... not call them human? And Japan will kill us all if they had the chance? It seems like the other way around buddy... It seems like YOU want to kill Japan when you get the chance. Ha, a Japanese wearing Korean dress and talking shit here. Ignorance? Are you talking about ignorance? Go back and asked how japanese killed ur grandfather and raped ur grandmother then come back and talk about ignorance with me, i doubt u r a korean. Knowing nothing about history. | ||
EvilAngel
China74 Posts
Evil Angel: I am sorry but I don't know what has happened in china exactly. Only thing I know is that Japanese empire gloriously marched deep into China, and punished thousands of barbarians. (should I call them "chinese" ?) You dont know what happened exactly? Go back ask your grandfather!! It's like I killed your father and raped your mother, but I deny it and glorify it, and in the end I said"they just barbarians", wont you hate me? That's why we dont treat u as Human Being, because you people see all the rest of the world as "barbarians". That's why you people should only be in the movies like Aliens or Independence day. | ||
subi
Korea (South)9 Posts
I like japan people. but sometimes although I have good feeling about japan people, I hate japan. because 'they did not reflect really'. I anger why we ask japan's apology. why japan did not apologize themself with real mind? why they say 'we are not killed so many people. we are not rape asian women cause we paid(I have picture japan sodier rape woman and kill). japan had good things in asia many ways.' they say always korea wanted japan's rule.(we did not want. I must choose begger) they say korea woman wanted sell herself to japan's soldiers and we paid money(actually they didn't paid real money). they say korea man wanted join japan mility(i heard news yesterday one korea man joined japan army for 1 year by force, after independence he have new job. he retires due to age and start clean patriot statue several years with reflection. you can imagine korean's feeling that heard this news) they say korea old people want work in coal mine, mility airport building. why they say they did not human experiment?(I know human's body'70% is water. but how could know this? because japan 731's experiment. they used a centrifugal separator. they did experiment gun shot to people because one bullet how many people's body can pass.) why they deny all cruel behaviors? How could do say japan's politician, professor and many people say these things on TV in public? I think japan's society approve that things. I think japanese people want say like that. but only couldn't say in public. or they want erase in these things there history. so politicians take that place and can say 'we did good things. we didn't bad things' ha....... although all these things, korea and japan walk together. may cause this thing japan can say like that things. and may they think apology is japan nation's dishonor... may they can't deny GLORIOUS JAPAN EMPIRE HISTORY.... I am anxious really why? why make korean have these questions? I am sad that I said these things in BW forum.... I wish japan's behave like adult person... I wish better future between korea and japan.. if this problem will have finished well, korea and japan will be better partner to each other in the future. i hope that days. ps.. although i write this with dictionary.. many things are incorrect t_t so fogive inaccruate grammar. ^^ i am konglish user t_t | ||
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
On November 03 2003 12:29 EvilAngel wrote: Ha, a Japanese wearing Korean dress and talking shit here. Ignorance? Are you talking about ignorance? Go back and asked how japanese killed ur grandfather and raped ur grandmother then come back and talk about ignorance with me, i doubt u r a korean. Knowing nothing about history. Haha ok I'm not a Korean! haha think what you want buddy but just know this: you are being no better than the Japanese that you hate so badly by having that attitude. I mean you called them not good enough to be HUMAN. Do you know what that means? That means you think they can be fried, eaten, hit by a car and turned to road kill, and hunted. The Japanese did treat us in the past like animals, but feeling the same way about the innocent decendents (no matter how ignorant) would be no better than what they were... I mean if you truely believed what you said, that means if you had the chance, you'd walk into Japan and do exactly what they did in Nanking? If yes, I have no more words for you. And yes, my Grandma hate the Japanese. She discourages me from buying anything with a Japanese brand name on it. But in order for the world to move on, we need to settle these differences. First Japan needs to educate their young people better so the other Asians don't get as pissed. And the other Asians need to take steps to stop hating. Personally I think the former needs to happen first in order for any real progress. But others like EvilAngel hating to the extreme also need to chill it or Japan will just get mad and never do it. You can be upset and mad, but don't be in a murderous rage. | ||
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
http://www.jiyuu-shikan.org/nanjing/contents.html I thought I'd just give some matieral for discussion as there really is no "other side" to this arugument besides comet, who admitted to knowing little about it. | ||
EvilAngel
China74 Posts
On November 04 2003 07:06 Klogon wrote: Haha ok I'm not a Korean! haha think what you want buddy but just know this: you are being no better than the Japanese that you hate so badly by having that attitude. I mean you called them not good enough to be HUMAN. Do you know what that means? That means you think they can be fried, eaten, hit by a car and turned to road kill, and hunted. The Japanese did treat us in the past like animals, but feeling the same way about the innocent decendents (no matter how ignorant) would be no better than what they were... I mean if you truely believed what you said, that means if you had the chance, you'd walk into Japan and do exactly what they did in Nanking? If yes, I have no more words for you. And yes, my Grandma hate the Japanese. She discourages me from buying anything with a Japanese brand name on it. But in order for the world to move on, we need to settle these differences. First Japan needs to educate their young people better so the other Asians don't get as pissed. And the other Asians need to take steps to stop hating. Personally I think the former needs to happen first in order for any real progress. But others like EvilAngel hating to the extreme also need to chill it or Japan will just get mad and never do it. You can be upset and mad, but don't be in a murderous rage. Have you read what "Comet"(a real japanese youngster) posted yesterday? Ok, let me quote him: "Only thing I know is that Japanese empire gloriously marched deep into China, and punished thousands of barbarians." Who's been ignorant? Clear your mind, and wake up, dont be cheated by them again, are they being nice??!! As for your "that means if you had the chance, you'd walk into Japan and do exactly what they did in Nanking? If yes, I have no more words for you". I never said I will do it, and I wont do it. but I can make you sure, once Japan wants to repeat what they did in WWII, I definitely will fight back the same way. We chinese never want war, but we are also never afraid of war!!! Just a kind remind to you, beware the Japanese, dont let the Occupation happen again. As for my way treat them as non-human being thing, it's my own business, ok? Because of their attitude, ok? And how you treat me as human or non-human, I dont care, ok? But I always see Korean, no matter North or South as good neibour and good friends.I would have forgiven them if they've already admit the crime and appologized. But have they done it yet? they worship those criminals every year, glorify the war, modify the textbook. See what's happened to "Comet",a japanese young guy, he's not alone, all the japanese kids being tought as potential "war criminals"!! Stop dreaming of a friendly neibour-Japan, it was not our friend, it is not our friend, and it will never be our friend. By the way, I do respect your grandma, the real generation who had really experenced the war, who had really seen the crimes! | ||
EvilAngel
China74 Posts
On November 04 2003 07:21 Klogon wrote: After some looking, I just found this link aruguing against "The Rape of Nanking". http://www.jiyuu-shikan.org/nanjing/contents.html I thought I'd just give some matieral for discussion as there really is no "other side" to this arugument besides comet, who admitted to knowing little about it. I'll tell you what, that's the way they try to deny the crime, to show you the "evidence"! And you are going to believe it instead of believe your grandma and the history book????. One thing let me tell you, Nanking was once the capital of China, one of the biggest cities in China of the entire history. And it was the capital of south China during that war! Not more than 200,000 population????? I can be sure that Nanking's population was much more than that even 1000 years ago!! It was capital, a capital of a Five Hundred Million population Country back at that time!! Those orther things, I'm too lazy to explain one by one, so silly, a 5 year kid in China will see that as a joke, and you are going to believe it??????? Read more books, kid, instead of those shit in the Internet! | ||
SeBASTa
China1147 Posts
u shouldnt be so mad,history is history not enough to be the reason of hating | ||
EvilAngel
China74 Posts
On November 04 2003 09:16 SeBASTa wrote: EvilAngel u shouldnt be so mad,history is history not enough to be the reason of hating Do you read news? Do you know that what a few Japanese students and teacher did in Xi'An last week? Do you know what they are doing in our land recently? It's not just history, it's what they are doing now. Plus, a nation should never forget about history. | ||
Comet
Japan10 Posts
By the way, I dont mind even you misunderstand my personality or hate me. But you're making this little more complex than it should be in stupid ways regardless of whether if you're being serious or sarcastic... As you can easily see your post of "Last edit: 2003-11-03 04:34:11" saying "Japanese is animate being" and from my view not even willing to converse. I recognized your post as some "pointless shit talking" So, in my post at "November 03 2003 07:49 Posts 5" I said "glorious Japanese Empire punished barbarians" just to play along with ur post. Actually I misunderstood you first, from the recent posts you were serious... Little off topic though, but I don't think Japanese empire was great or even holy. But honestly I'm not dishornor of it. Japan the small island country once tried to conquer, and rule the whole asia.(failed miserably) Even I think I'm little bit unique or weird. So again you can't judge all the Japanese just by this biased person.(you can't be biased without some knowledge though, regardless of good or not) Actually there's small group of people on online, who think and discuss the strategy, how to lead axes to victory. It's just romance, nothing more than thinking of alternate story for Starwars episode. But this is just way off the topic. For people(person) who afraid Japan might invade China once again.(you think China is THAT weak???) Though Japan have world 2nd or 3rd navy, Japan can't make military action without United States's permission.(in other word they move when U.S.A orders to) And top of all, you got nuke we don't... (this is just my poor observation) Some of you might feel fury on me "JAPAN KILLED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE AND IT WAS A ROMANCE!?" well for "ME" war is nothing more than show on TV.(do you know Japanese anime called "GUNDAM"? it's about war. And look at many movies in U.S.A about war) Yes it has happened in real world. And Japan havn't apologized yet. I don't know why though, Japan should just apologize and get this over with. Diplomacy and respecting Japanese soldiers should be think separated. I kind of understand I do sound mean and arrogant, but this is my honest words.(honesty is not always virtue in diplomacy world. But I believe it is in person to person) In country wise, it would be good if Japan and Asian country become true-friendly. In actuality, Japan wouldn't be so safe without U.S.A's protection if hostility continues. (then Japan might get bigger military which no Asian country wants not even Japanese) Weeeell Asians can't forget bad memories so easily true, I can't deny that I have some negative feelings about Asians true. Even in kid's society, there's necessary ways to repair friendships after it's broken. But as you can easily see, one Japanese can't satisfy all the Korean. Or one Korean can't make all the Japanese hate entire Korea. Historical conflict should only kept between Countries not people, This is my opinion. It's true while I care if Japanese murder Asian now, I don't care how many Asians are being killed during the war. It's true. p.s. i dont think i could write this without help of electric dictionary i wasnt much of a good student... god my korean and chinese friends were studying so hard... | ||
Comet
Japan10 Posts
On November 04 2003 09:23 EvilAngel wrote: Do you read news? Do you know that what a few Japanese students and teacher did in Xi'An last week? Do you know what they are doing in our land recently? It's not just history, it's what they are doing now. Plus, a nation should never forget about history. ...Hey let's make a deal. We arrest those students and a teacher and send them into jail. So in return, you guys arrest at least half of the chinese thieves that are moaning around in Japan, and send them back to where they born. | ||
EvilAngel
China74 Posts
On November 04 2003 11:27 Comet wrote: ...Hey let's make a deal. We arrest those students and a teacher and send them into jail. So in return, you guys arrest at least half of the chinese thieves that are moaning around in Japan, and send them back to where they born. The nature is so different, aren't there any japanese theives? You know what ur students and teacher did in our country? In an open performance participated by a lot of foreign students and china students. Your students and teacher wearing fake penis and breasts in a disgusting way and highlighting as" this is chinese" to humiliate us in an OPEN PERFORMENCE with all the college students sitting there and watching, chinese, foreigners. I couldn't imagine, in our land, you people could do this kind of thing and what can't you do in your own country? I can't think of any other country's people can do this kind of thing in other country's land, can you? | ||
tonchien
Korea (South)1 Post
Japanese differ face and inside... | ||
BlackJack
United States10465 Posts
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eCLipSe
United States7 Posts
It is when a Japanese person defends the brutalities that occurred during the 1910-40 period that i get really annoyed. | ||
chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
On November 03 2003 12:02 Comet wrote: I admit I don't have enough knowledge of these history stuffs. But so WHAT? I would be careless if our Holy Japanese Empire have totally dominated poor australia and turned entire country into dust. I would be careless. First, you're here arguing about Japanese history. A subject which you, and many Japanese, seem to have admittedly little knowledge of. But you continue to argue. And not care about the terrible things Japan did during the war. Then you, or Japanese in general, complain about Americans using the a-bomb. But ignore what Japan did. Good work. Edit: Change that about not caring, you seem to care. And you glorify it. | ||
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
On November 04 2003 09:16 EvilAngel wrote: I'll tell you what, that's the way they try to deny the crime, to show you the "evidence"! And you are going to believe it instead of believe your grandma and the history book????. One thing let me tell you, Nanking was once the capital of China, one of the biggest cities in China of the entire history. And it was the capital of south China during that war! Not more than 200,000 population????? I can be sure that Nanking's population was much more than that even 1000 years ago!! It was capital, a capital of a Five Hundred Million population Country back at that time!! Those orther things, I'm too lazy to explain one by one, so silly, a 5 year kid in China will see that as a joke, and you are going to believe it??????? Read more books, kid, instead of those shit in the Internet! I didn't read it except for like 2 paragraphs of it. ![]() Just wanted to show what some of the Japanese people who say "we didn't kill that many people" believe. Nowhere did I say that I agreed with that article. And yes, comet might be being ignorant, but saying they aren't human is also being ignorant no matter how you put it. But some people won't care, like my grandma, and I'll respect that. | ||
Khan_Temuzyn
Korea (South)4 Posts
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EvilAngel
China74 Posts
On November 04 2003 17:24 BlackJack wrote: EvilAngel, I hate China because they deny knocking down our spy plane. Fair enough? Oh ya, your spy plane was spying on us up on our sky, and the collision caused our pilot to die, I couldn't remember who siad" i feel sorry" about this, is that George Bush or Cliton? The one who applogized is you, not us, if it was not your fault, do you think your super-powerful USA would have applogized????? I also couldn't imagine what if some other county's spy plane spying up on ur sky, what'll you do? Btw, I think it's your plane knocked our plane down. I dont wanna discuss the relationship with USA, i think we are ok, maybe we dont like each other so much. | ||
Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
Japan not admitting what they did means history could repeat itself, that's why every student in germany gets to know what our country did to others so that this will never happen again | ||
Comet
Japan10 Posts
I decided to write my first post after reading 6pages worth of "Japanese go to Hell" After I read all, I was mad. Because I thought these people sound like they expect Japan to care what they think, but never expect what Japanese would think of them. So at the beggining, I just wanted to say little opinion of what "I" thought(yea may be I'm just off-topic already in the first place) Anyways. I understand the hatred comes from history, therefore history plays big role in this topic. But I'm not really here to argue about history. people having different "true-histories" And thus can go forever without stepping closer to eachother.(I can say "ok I'm wrong you're right" just to make you feel better, but does that change "true-history" ?) Seems like you misunderstood me in this. I know Japan did many bad things I'm not denying or refusing to face facts.(not wrong victor creates history whether if it's true or false) I'm not glorifying Japanese history also. However, if I seem to be in your eyes, I can't change your religion. By the way, "Holy Japanese Empire" was irony corresponding to "fucked up emperor" About A-Bomb. I just pointed it out as great example for my logic "In war, regardless of what one has done, winner is justified"(or may be only U.S.A can be justified?) Actually I'm not even complaining and I don't think many Japanese are.(can't be sure on this though) When I was little, I learned and watched many movies about war. About war that Japan lost to America and whole bunch of Japanese were killed. But I never felt hatred toward U.S.A nor my friends were seemed to. Instead, U.S.A was country we looked up to.(and still is to most of the Japanese) This is mostly the reason, why I thought Korea or asian countries got over with the previous war. And glorifying. Isn't U.S.A infact most proud winner and glorifying great victory of WWII? I see all the U.S.A movies showing about war. In those movies, Asians are like discribed nothing more than some "weirdos" whom you'd feel nothing to shoot them.(actually it's war if you don't shoot them they shoot you...) Eventhen Japanese typical comment on movie pearlharbor was just impression about love-story and beautiful graphics.(well I'm not saying they're not supposed to, I think it's better that they had no hatred toward americans) Ok I'm purely off-topic. mandalor: Teaching "true-history" to Japanese students. I don't disagree. But as of now, noone knows exactly what has happened allthough history doesn't have to super accurate.(or can not be) And you can't just demand Japanese history books to say "Japanese is cruel bastards" Which is "true history" according to this thread or whatever it might be. By the way do you like your country? Off topic: You know scary human nature that repeat mistakes over generations. There are kids that smoke cigs evenafter they see a picture of black-lung.(I'm not anti-smoker it's their own risk) My stance in this argument is simple. Japan should apologize what they've done in the war. But Korea and China also should forgive Japan and make effort to step closer. People from both country should put hatred aside eventhough you can't forget it easily. It benefits both Japan and Korea/China. This is what I believe unless compensation is only profit you can imagine from Japan. then... that's... ridiculous. I'm hypocrite really. And you can make hypocrite disappointed that's not so hard. But there's reason hypocrite is called as it is not saint. | ||
Rad Raziel
Russian Federation11 Posts
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mindspike
Canada1902 Posts
How can China/Korea forgive Japan if they dont apologize first? | ||
BlackJack
United States10465 Posts
On November 05 2003 11:11 EvilAngel wrote: Oh ya, your spy plane was spying on us up on our sky, and the collision caused our pilot to die, I couldn't remember who siad" i feel sorry" about this, is that George Bush or Cliton? The one who applogized is you, not us, if it was not your fault, do you think your super-powerful USA would have applogized????? I also couldn't imagine what if some other county's spy plane spying up on ur sky, what'll you do? Btw, I think it's your plane knocked our plane down. I dont wanna discuss the relationship with USA, i think we are ok, maybe we dont like each other so much. RoFL.. You are very very stupid my friend. You honestly think we knocked you down? You obviously know nothing about air planes or else you would know that our big fat spy plane can't maneauver in a way to hit your tiny little jet plane under our left wing. They have footage of the Chinese pilot Holding up a piece of paper with his e-mail adress out of the window of his Jet one time. What kind of a retarded pilot holds up a piece of paper out the window, while they are 20 ft from another jet, that has their e-mail on it? Yeah.. I think that one was our fault.. idiot.. "If it was not your fault, why did you apologize?" ROFL WHAT AN IDIOT. That truly defines your intelligence. If you are driving down the street, and some retarded kid jumps out in front of your car and gets killed, you aren't supposed to apologize? Only when you drive up on the curb and run a kid over are you supposed to apologize? LoL that is kind of sad.. The U.S. doesn't want to piss off China over a stupid spy plane, even thought we are the ones that should be pissed off because of your idiotic pilot, and your even more idiotic government. Please go bury yourself now. | ||
Khan_Temuzyn
Korea (South)4 Posts
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
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EvilAngel
China74 Posts
On November 06 2003 04:45 BlackJack wrote: RoFL.. You are very very stupid my friend. You honestly think we knocked you down? You obviously know nothing about air planes or else you would know that our big fat spy plane can't maneauver in a way to hit your tiny little jet plane under our left wing. They have footage of the Chinese pilot Holding up a piece of paper with his e-mail adress out of the window of his Jet one time. What kind of a retarded pilot holds up a piece of paper out the window, while they are 20 ft from another jet, that has their e-mail on it? Yeah.. I think that one was our fault.. idiot.. "If it was not your fault, why did you apologize?" ROFL WHAT AN IDIOT. That truly defines your intelligence. If you are driving down the street, and some retarded kid jumps out in front of your car and gets killed, you aren't supposed to apologize? Only when you drive up on the curb and run a kid over are you supposed to apologize? LoL that is kind of sad.. The U.S. doesn't want to piss off China over a stupid spy plane, even thought we are the ones that should be pissed off because of your idiotic pilot, and your even more idiotic government. Please go bury yourself now. The most stupid guy is you, fellow. That pilot would have risked his life to knock down your plane?? They were on the air, not the street, once collision happens, a big chance they'll die. We are not as stupid as you, so we wouldn't have risked our life and using our tiny plane to knock your big fat stupid spy plane. Stop being stupid and arrogant, since you are the most powerful country, you think you can do anything you want? Spy on our sky, air strike our ambassy, attack iraq without UN's permission? I doubt maybe your IQ is 0. So you are even more stupid than idiot, say you as an idiot will insult idiots. stupid. Please think use your head instead of your penis. | ||
SoleSteeler
Canada5417 Posts
If Japan can do this, I think (hope!) the Chinese/Koreans can accept this and also do their part and make a step forward to building a solid relationship... And as for the two people arguing about the American/Chinese spyplane thing, the American had no right to be there in the first place, as I've heard? | ||
EvilAngel
China74 Posts
On November 06 2003 16:03 SoleSteeler wrote: Japan should fully apologize, make sure they're students are taught just like Germany teaches it's students. If Japan can do this, I think (hope!) the Chinese/Koreans can accept this and also do their part and make a step forward to building a solid relationship... And as for the two people arguing about the American/Chinese spyplane thing, the American had no right to be there in the first place, as I've heard? Correct! | ||
BlackJack
United States10465 Posts
On November 06 2003 15:36 EvilAngel wrote: The most stupid guy is you, fellow. That pilot would have risked his life to knock down your plane?? They were on the air, not the street, once collision happens, a big chance they'll die. We are not as stupid as you, so we wouldn't have risked our life and using our tiny plane to knock your big fat stupid spy plane. Stop being stupid and arrogant, since you are the most powerful country, you think you can do anything you want? Spy on our sky, air strike our ambassy, attack iraq without UN's permission? I doubt maybe your IQ is 0. So you are even more stupid than idiot, say you as an idiot will insult idiots. stupid. Please think use your head instead of your penis. rofl what an idiot. they have footage of the guy flying close to planes in the past, acting like an idiot. Just a coincidence that the idiot that hits us is the same guy? | ||
EvilAngel
China74 Posts
On November 06 2003 16:29 BlackJack wrote: rofl what an idiot. they have footage of the guy flying close to planes in the past, acting like an idiot. Just a coincidence that the idiot that hits us is the same guy? Oh, talking about flying close, why your spy plane up on our sky, if you were not spying on us, why would us have flown close to you? If I peeping your mother shower, what will you do? Again, think by your head, not your penis. | ||
BlackJack
United States10465 Posts
WE WERE ALLOWED TO FLY THERE YOU WERENT ALLOWED TO RUN INTO US USE COMMON SENSE PLEASE | ||
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Waxangel
United States33349 Posts
khan_temuzyn, think of what political group in Japan you resemble | ||
Comet
Japan10 Posts
Though it was funny when represenative from North Korea kept using "jap" in the United Nations then walked away. It didn't make me mad, I only scoffed at North Korea's desperate attempt to draw Japan's attention. (everything involved with North Korea is a stupid comedy) Well I know North and South Korea are 2different country. Koreans are so "advanced" enough that, they can separate their land into half and start shooting at your own race. That is something Japanese would never think of. For your incredible history knowledge... who the hell here talking about that far back. Mostly we're talking about incident that occured during WWII not stone age. I can find some Japanese who can explain in details how Japanese Empire and modernized army owned uncivilied aborigine, and liberated such a primitive land. For what? just to piss you off just like you tried on me. By the way you spent entire paragraph to say nothing more than guy saying "N00b you were lucky to beat me in our last game cuz my mouse SUCKED" in game. Sorry I couldn't see nothing else other than you gilding your old old history. May be you should stop using your "advanced language" when you're trying to communicate with average person like me. ...or you're just mad because not all the Asians are cursing on Japanese like you think they're supposed to? About imperial family could be rooted in Korean emperor or not, no idea. But you know "THIS" is exactly why some of Japanese hate koreans. Koreans play Japanese sport "Kendo" But since Koreans hate Japanese things, they're trying to steal it by creating their own "Kumdo" Which is nothing different from kendo other than how they dress, and started to clime as it's their OWN. I mean Japanese brough spice to Korea that needs to make kimchi, but Japanese never say "kimchi is Japanese food"(impossible you say? well there are Koreans that say "sushi is ours" ) Some Japanese call Korean "country of copy and thief" because Some Koreans think every good thing Japan have have to be Korean's. Off topic: Just as I'm writing this, I just read news article about baseball game between Korea and Taiwan. Korea lost then in article(written by Korean) says Koreans blaming on judge like "JUDGE WAS TOTALLY ****ED UP" I went to online forum to see what the Japanese responses would be and saw "KOREA AGAIN" which was expected. SoleSteeler: I know I agree. So far the problems I see are, Schools are not teaching about history between Korea.(and people who care about war are, typically the type of people that like to discuss about battles against U.S.A) And government seems to avoid this topic.(while back, government said they should take time to teach patriotism in schools. People on TV were arguing "ok government just wanna create people who happily die for the government" Argument disappeared after few weeks) Sadly some of our top do not seem to respect Asian countries much. Our prime minister visited Yasukuni Temple when Korea and China dared not to. Governor Ishihara is not so friendly to Korea.(may be he doesn't mean so negative... but he should be more careful) Well I hope things go in better way and we need to make effort. | ||
Rad Raziel
Russian Federation11 Posts
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EvilAngel
China74 Posts
On November 06 2003 17:14 BlackJack wrote: IT ISNT YOUR SKY IDIOT WE WERE ALLOWED TO FLY THERE YOU WERENT ALLOWED TO RUN INTO US USE COMMON SENSE PLEASE Right, I'm allowed to stand in front of your house and peep your mother shower from your STUPID COMMON SENSE. And btw, our battle plane is not zerg's scouge, he wouldn't have knocked you down in the price of his life, if he wanted, he could just shoot you idiot down. This is COMMON SENSE. stupid. | ||
BlackJack
United States10465 Posts
On November 07 2003 00:06 EvilAngel wrote: Right, I'm allowed to stand in front of your house and peep your mother shower from your STUPID COMMON SENSE. And btw, our battle plane is not zerg's scouge, he wouldn't have knocked you down in the price of his life, if he wanted, he could just shoot you idiot down. This is COMMON SENSE. stupid. Man I have never seen someone so freaking stupid in all my life. "WE COULD HAVE JUST SHOW YOU DOWN!" OMFG THAT IS REALLY SAD............................... You are very very stupid.... Spy Planes don't fly over the country. They stay over international water and are able to electronically eavesdrop on other countries. IN INTERNATIONAL AIR SPACE NOT OVER THE COUNTRY. BOATS CAN DO THE SAME THING. EVERY SUPER POWER ON THIS PLANET DOES IT. KOREA DOES IT. CHINA DOES IT. RUSSIA DOES IT. PEOPLE DO IT TO AMERICA, AMERICA DOES IT TO PEOPLE. YOU ARE SO FREAKING STUPID, I DON'T KNOW IF I AM GETTING THROUGH TO YOU OR NOT. ARE THE CAPS HELPING? DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT EVERY COUNTRY DOES THIS, AND THAT WE AREN'T ALLOWED TO SHOOT PEOPLE DOWN? YOU IDIOT. that is all. | ||
EvilAngel
China74 Posts
On November 07 2003 01:00 BlackJack wrote: Man I have never seen someone so freaking stupid in all my life. "WE COULD HAVE JUST SHOW YOU DOWN!" OMFG THAT IS REALLY SAD............................... You are very very stupid.... Spy Planes don't fly over the country. They stay over international water and are able to electronically eavesdrop on other countries. IN INTERNATIONAL AIR SPACE NOT OVER THE COUNTRY. BOATS CAN DO THE SAME THING. EVERY SUPER POWER ON THIS PLANET DOES IT. KOREA DOES IT. CHINA DOES IT. RUSSIA DOES IT. PEOPLE DO IT TO AMERICA, AMERICA DOES IT TO PEOPLE. YOU ARE SO FREAKING STUPID, I DON'T KNOW IF I AM GETTING THROUGH TO YOU OR NOT. ARE THE CAPS HELPING? DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT EVERY COUNTRY DOES THIS, AND THAT WE AREN'T ALLOWED TO SHOOT PEOPLE DOWN? YOU IDIOT. that is all. Alright, since we cannot shoot you down, then we'll definitely KNOCK you DOWN?? Oh, and I'm sorry, our government being stupid, they forgot it needs TWO scouge to kill a Since Vessel. Dont compare our intelligence with your 0 IQ! Maybe you think all the countries should wave their slogan "welcome you mighty US spy plane spy on us"! So next time remember open your house' window when somebody peeping your mother shower. Again, say you as an idiot will insult idiots' intelligence. | ||
BlackJack
United States10465 Posts
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EvilAngel
China74 Posts
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Khan_Temuzyn
Korea (South)4 Posts
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BlackJack
United States10465 Posts
On November 07 2003 03:16 EvilAngel wrote: based on your IQ, it is too hard for you to understand. It is impossible to have an intelligent conversation with you. All you can say to anything I say is, "HOW WOULD U LIKE IT IF I WAS PEEPING ON YOUR MOM IN SHOWER" ITS LIKE 2 SCOURGE VS 1 BC! 2 SCOURGE NEVER BEATS BC! OR YOU HAVE 0 IQ HAHAHA | ||
EvilAngel
China74 Posts
On November 07 2003 04:21 BlackJack wrote: It is impossible to have an intelligent conversation with you. All you can say to anything I say is, "HOW WOULD U LIKE IT IF I WAS PEEPING ON YOUR MOM IN SHOWER" ITS LIKE 2 SCOURGE VS 1 BC! 2 SCOURGE NEVER BEATS BC! OR YOU HAVE 0 IQ HAHAHA You are totally out of your mind, go back ask your daddy what I meant then come back and discuss with me. poor kid. | ||
KarlSberg~
731 Posts
Reading this thread made me realize it and made me decide that next time I see my japanese teacher I should rape and slaughter her. | ||
mAKiTO
Colombia4171 Posts
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Comet
Japan10 Posts
"OK" it sounds fair enough, nowonder you're so stereotyped toward this topic indeed, "YOU HAVE RIGHTS" I don't question on it. But may I ask you one question? Will you please answer this one question? How fucking old are you? KerlSberg~: Reading your response made me realize United States has made right decision by ignoring France in United Nations. Reading your response made me realize it was right decision german invaded France. One Scandinavian spit on your face and that make you wanna slaughter all the Scandinavians? I think you better not travel to other countries and stay where you born. | ||
KarlSberg~
731 Posts
I've been studying Japanese for 2 years now because I'm interested in it's culture, I don't think ant post could seriously make me want to slaughter all japanese. Also I think Japanese invented Dance Dance Revolution which is a good reason to love Japan. | ||
KarlSberg~
731 Posts
On November 07 2003 11:28 Comet wrote: KerlSberg~: Reading your response made me realize United States has made right decision by ignoring France in United Nations. Reading your response made me realize it was right decision german invaded France. One Scandinavian spit on your face and that make you wanna slaughter all the Scandinavians? I think you better not travel to other countries and stay where you born. Am I the only one who can see a contradiction in what you say? Why shouldn't I hate a country because of one person's behaviour when you say reading what I wrote made you realize how dumb all french people are? By the way don't worry, I think you are stupid, but I'm smart enough to understand not all Japanese are. | ||
SoleSteeler
Canada5417 Posts
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BlackJack
United States10465 Posts
On November 07 2003 05:36 makquis wrote: lol....blackjack blackajack...you think you know everything...dont u? iOi;; I'll answer your question: no Now you answer mine: Why would you even post that? | ||
Rad Raziel
Russian Federation11 Posts
On November 07 2003 15:31 SoleSteeler wrote: Too much hate ![]() You will never go any where if you continue it! then I suggest you to not go to middle east.... seri0usly sometimes they walk on a street, armed with an AK-47 and will shoot any foreigners they see specially in Afghanistan. | ||
tenbagger
United States1289 Posts
On November 07 2003 01:00 BlackJack wrote: Man I have never seen someone so freaking stupid in all my life. "WE COULD HAVE JUST SHOW YOU DOWN!" OMFG THAT IS REALLY SAD............................... You are very very stupid.... Spy Planes don't fly over the country. They stay over international water and are able to electronically eavesdrop on other countries. IN INTERNATIONAL AIR SPACE NOT OVER THE COUNTRY. BOATS CAN DO THE SAME THING. EVERY SUPER POWER ON THIS PLANET DOES IT. KOREA DOES IT. CHINA DOES IT. RUSSIA DOES IT. PEOPLE DO IT TO AMERICA, AMERICA DOES IT TO PEOPLE. YOU ARE SO FREAKING STUPID, I DON'T KNOW IF I AM GETTING THROUGH TO YOU OR NOT. ARE THE CAPS HELPING? DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT EVERY COUNTRY DOES THIS, AND THAT WE AREN'T ALLOWED TO SHOOT PEOPLE DOWN? YOU IDIOT. that is all. hey blackjack, don't believe everything that fox news feeds you. We are fucking ourselves over by having this double standard where we are entitled to everything becuase we have power. This attitude is what breeds US hatred all over the world and is what will eventually cause the greatest damage to the US. Blackjack, let me ask you a question... If a chinese spyplane was hovering in international airspace a few miles away from NYC, would the US let that happen? The air force would knock that sucker down so fucking fast. And Blackjack, remember that we fucking bombed their embassy by accident. If the Chinese bombed one of our embassies by accident, do you think we'd just let it pass? Most americans I know think that this double standard either doesn't exist, or it benefits us becuase it lets us do whatever the fuck we want. But in this day and age, doing whatever the fuck we want will ultimately hurt us the most. | ||
BlackJack
United States10465 Posts
On November 07 2003 18:19 tenbagger wrote: hey blackjack, don't believe everything that fox news feeds you. We are fucking ourselves over by having this double standard where we are entitled to everything becuase we have power. This attitude is what breeds US hatred all over the world and is what will eventually cause the greatest damage to the US. Blackjack, let me ask you a question... If a chinese spyplane was hovering in international airspace a few miles away from NYC, would the US let that happen? The air force would knock that sucker down so fucking fast. And Blackjack, remember that we fucking bombed their embassy by accident. If the Chinese bombed one of our embassies by accident, do you think we'd just let it pass? Most americans I know think that this double standard either doesn't exist, or it benefits us becuase it lets us do whatever the fuck we want. But in this day and age, doing whatever the fuck we want will ultimately hurt us the most. answer to your first question: Yes we would. But first you should find me some international airspace that is a few miles from DC. We don't shoot down airplanes and ships that are near our land but in International water. Nobody does. Not even China. They just run into you hahaha Answer to second question: Yes we would let it pass. Just like we let it pass when they ran into our plane and hold its crew captive. DO YOU THINK WE ARE GOING TO DECLARE WAR ON CHINA IF THEY ACIDENTALLY BOMB OUR EMBASSY? | ||
Khan_Temuzyn
Korea (South)4 Posts
Moreover, the subjects covered are different. Unlike "Yesterday's Baseball game", history is intrinsically related to something you've not experienced at all. Furthermore, as a person who watched the baseball game, I think, I can tell you not to mention of it unless you didn't watch it. Finally, I wonder how young you are. Counldn't you distinguish the fact and personal judgement? Or, is it applicable to the whole Japanese to be lacking in the ability of telling them? It goes to personal judgement whether referee's right or wrong. As I talking about history, you can tell whether it is a fact or personal judgment, and choose to accept. In my previous posts, I tried to show Japan tried to hide certain historical facts, and evaluate revealed historical facts in the way of gilding it. I didn't tried to say that's wrong, but that's the reason why Koreans of Chinese hate Japanese. | ||
DV8
United States1623 Posts
Another thing but, I don't want to start a debate over this so I will not reply to your answer of my question. Why do you want US politics to be governed by internalistic views when our circumstance really doesn't require it all that much? I mean honestly why should other countries opinion of the US have so much impact on our welfare. More like why should you let the whole class copy your test or face ridicule for being a teacher's pet or good little boy. Thats really what internationalism is all about, appeasing other countries. But to reinforce my initial goal, I just want a response from tenbagger and I will not reply in order to not digress further from the main topic. | ||
tenbagger
United States1289 Posts
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BlackJack
United States10465 Posts
We aren't faling in Iraq. If you realized, there are better schools, more electricity, we got rid of an evil dictator that tortured his own people, we are rebuilding the country into a democracy, and no matter how it turns out, it will be better then it was before. Lastly, we should have never gone to war with Iraq. | ||
we want peace
China202 Posts
Japan has done enough to kill the Asians, to rape the Asian women, to burn the Asians houses, to rob Asians' land and resources! What's more, the Japanese has never said sorry to the Chinese, the Koreans, the Ventamnese etc, still, their president is visiting the war memorials that is designed for the most brutal and inhuman war ciminals whose hands are stuffed with the blood of the Asians! Have anyone of you, Americans, French, Spanish experienced that? SO I can understand your misunderstandings of why we Asians hate Japan.I will never stop boycotting Japanese goods until their government appologize for what they have done in world war 2. | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36374 Posts
That said, stop bringing back six month old threads. | ||
we want peace
China202 Posts
On November 06 2003 01:32 mindspike wrote: Comet How can China/Korea forgive Japan if they dont apologize first? You are right. What we need is the apology from Japan! I was born in 1980's. But I can not understand why the CHinese government exempt the war compensation from Japan! | ||
we want peace
China202 Posts
On April 09 2004 00:03 Hot_Bid wrote: Japan has a history of doing horrible things (on the level of the Nazi's in Germany to the Jews) to the other Asians. That said, stop bringing back six month old threads. I agree with you! But the world only knows the Jewish being massacred by Germans, but seldom knows what the Japanese have dong to China, Korea, Vietnam etc | ||
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
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