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The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
October 08 2008 02:25 GMT
#2221
Obama really needs more points when it comes to foreign policy. How can you expect to win a debate on foreign policy when your answer is always "I opposed Iraq"?
Doctorasul
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Romania1145 Posts
October 08 2008 02:26 GMT
#2222
McCain is overdoing the cockiness.
"I believe in Spinoza's god who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but not in a god who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings." - Albert Einstein
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
October 08 2008 02:27 GMT
#2223
On October 08 2008 11:23 TeCh)PsylO wrote:
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On October 08 2008 11:21 The Storyteller wrote:
I think McCain is more personal. Obama is a little more formal. Obama does seem a little more suited to the football stadium than the townhall. Still, he may end up looking more statesmanlike.


I think Obama tries to appeal to people rationally and McCain tries to appeal to there emotions.



Yes, I think that is right by and large. Both go both ways but overall this is probably right.

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
aRod
Profile Joined July 2007
United States758 Posts
October 08 2008 02:27 GMT
#2224
I think the verdict of this debate will be the same as the last one. Obama wins slightly on the economy. McCain wins slightly on foreign policy.

This debate was too similar to the last one for me to be that interested.
Live to win.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-08 02:29:51
October 08 2008 02:27 GMT
#2225
On October 08 2008 11:24 Savio wrote:
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On October 08 2008 11:21 Sadist wrote:
On October 08 2008 11:20 Savio wrote:
On October 08 2008 11:19 Sadist wrote:
On October 08 2008 11:18 Savio wrote:
On October 08 2008 11:16 Sadist wrote:
On October 08 2008 11:09 Savio wrote:
I thought the 1st debate was a draw which Biden won the VP debate.

Unless something changes, I think that McCain will be the winner in this debate.



How the hell do you figure that?

THese arent debates its them just talking about their ideologies

You either agree or disagree with them.




I simply think that McCain is connecting better. When I try to pick who won, I try not to think about who I support, but rather who connected better and seemed knowledgeable.

Thats why I think so far its been: 1st--tie, VP--Biden wins, 2nd--So far McCain performing better



define "connecting better"

?



Its a feeling and its subjective.


so its whether you agree with him or not.

hes connecting with YOU. ... that means there is no DEBATE.



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so its whether you agree with him or not.


Fail. I disagree with Biden but thought he connected better and seemed more knowledgeable.

It is possible to analyze 2 people's performance and agree when an adversary does well and when an ally does.

Anyway, its irrelevant. I threw out my opinion. You should state yours if you want.



my opinion is that there is no debate here.

You either agree with what Mccain says or Obama says. Its not like they are bringing up points or counter points like a real debate. I personally agree with Obama since he seems much more like your average person than Mccain. The republican Ideology to me is a joke too, so while the first debate I was surprised that Mccain could talk and said he did better than I expected, nobody should "change" who they are voting for by these debates. Just think rationally through what they are saying and what has been going on and where you stand with your "values" and how your "values" affect other people.

edit:

as for the Biden Debate, I can kind of see what you are saying, but that doesnt apply to Mccain or Obama because neither of them are remotely close to the stupidity of Palin.

How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
October 08 2008 02:30 GMT
#2226
Interesting last question.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24799 Posts
October 08 2008 02:30 GMT
#2227
On October 08 2008 11:27 Savio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2008 11:23 TeCh)PsylO wrote:
On October 08 2008 11:21 The Storyteller wrote:
I think McCain is more personal. Obama is a little more formal. Obama does seem a little more suited to the football stadium than the townhall. Still, he may end up looking more statesmanlike.


I think Obama tries to appeal to people rationally and McCain tries to appeal to there emotions.



Yes, I think that is right by and large. Both go both ways but overall this is probably right.


Didn't work so well for Kerry lol...
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
October 08 2008 02:31 GMT
#2228
Q: "What don't you know..."

A: "This is what I DO know..."

--Obama
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
October 08 2008 02:32 GMT
#2229
Obama is really blatant when he starts dodging questions. "I came from a single parent family" when asked what he doesn't know?!
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
October 08 2008 02:32 GMT
#2230
On October 08 2008 11:31 Savio wrote:
Q: "What don't you know..."

A: "This is what I DO know..."

--Obama


what'd you expect?
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
October 08 2008 02:34 GMT
#2231
Look! Look! McCain's first sentence is so bloody spot on. "What I don't know is what we all don't know." Great answer.
NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
October 08 2008 02:34 GMT
#2232
--- Nuked ---
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
October 08 2008 02:34 GMT
#2233
He had more time to think and he did a good last answer.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
TeCh)PsylO
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3552 Posts
October 08 2008 02:34 GMT
#2234
On October 08 2008 11:31 Savio wrote:
Q: "What don't you know..."

A: "This is what I DO know..."

--Obama


McCain doesn't know what everyone else doesn't know. Zen like answers for a Zen like question. I think Rumsfeld could potentially answer this.
People change, then forget to tell each other - Susan Scott
aRod
Profile Joined July 2007
United States758 Posts
October 08 2008 02:35 GMT
#2235
McCain's swollen left Parotid gland is starting to pull down his eye. Jesus is this man going to make it another 4 years? I wonder what he would look like without makeup. A walking corpse might be a good analogy.
Live to win.
wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
October 08 2008 02:35 GMT
#2236
LOL!!! At the end when the candidates blocked the camera and the script.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
October 08 2008 02:35 GMT
#2237
that was utterly boring
bring back bill clinton he was awesome in this style =(
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 08 2008 02:36 GMT
#2238
Is Russia evil wtf kind of question was that?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
October 08 2008 02:36 GMT
#2239
Hahahahahaha obama said 'skrimp'
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
October 08 2008 02:36 GMT
#2240
I'm out. Good debate. Made me hopeful that McCain just might still have a chance.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
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