• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 09:34
CET 15:34
KST 23:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13
Community News
Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge1[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation13Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge [TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship RSL Revival: Season 3 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle What happened to TvZ on Retro? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[BSL21] GosuLeague T1 Ro16 - Tue & Thu 22:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread +256792321827 ELOQUENT RELIABLE LOST LOVE SPELLS Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2211 users

2008 US Presidential Election - Page 106

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 104 105 106 107 108 130 Next
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
October 08 2008 00:06 GMT
#2101
On October 08 2008 09:01 evandi wrote:
He could be. He has some scary proposals.

He also called for some sort of national security force as large as the army. Sounds like a police state. Of course he must mean well. If you say so.

Now i'm really scared. I knew there was something wrong about Obama. I mean, 9 / 11 was maybe a conspiracy to start the Iraq war then to make people hate Bush and the republicans and finally to have a communist in disguise elected ?

Oh god I KNEW IT !
+ Show Spoiler +
bring Travis i will show him the ultimate Truth
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
October 08 2008 00:06 GMT
#2102
On October 08 2008 09:00 evandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2008 08:54 yoshtodd wrote:
Hate it when I take the troll bait... this guy isn't serious he's just trolling. Anyway if he is serious, it just makes Obama look better because if someone this stupid were vehemently for Obama I'd feel sort of ashamed and embarrassed. Now I just feel more anti Mccain because this sort of outrageous slander reminds me of his current campaign.


Well, almost everything said about Obama that is bad is considered crazy by Obama believers.

You do realize it is called bias and is perfectly human. I might be scared if we have a cycle without this sort of shit. It would be nice but I much prefer humanity to sanity that would provide. (never thought I would say that)
evandi
Profile Joined June 2008
United States266 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-08 00:14:34
October 08 2008 00:14 GMT
#2103
On October 08 2008 09:06 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2008 09:01 evandi wrote:
He could be. He has some scary proposals.

He also called for some sort of national security force as large as the army. Sounds like a police state. Of course he must mean well. If you say so.

Now i'm really scared. I knew there was something wrong about Obama. I mean, 9 / 11 was maybe a conspiracy to start the Iraq war then to make people hate Bush and the republicans and finally to have a communist in disguise elected ?

Oh god I KNEW IT !
+ Show Spoiler +
bring Travis i will show him the ultimate Truth


Well, actually, I've spent some time correcting truthers on some obvious flaws, like they point to the tower falling and time it without realizing that the dust makes it impossible to see when the actual building hits the ground.

A national police force as large as the army is not a conspiracy, its in an actual fricken speech. It would at the very least be extremely expensive.

At the most, with other things including, it hints at some scary possibilities. But I only included that since you made the comparison. It could happen. Its happened before. WHO KNOWS. McCain could do it!
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-08 00:47:13
October 08 2008 00:33 GMT
#2104
Even conservative blogs have acknowledged that he didn't mean a national police force (and he didn't say it either.) He said 'civilian national security force' and in political terms, national security is an extremely vague term meaning essentially anything that improves your country. It's a somewhat statist view of geopolitics but it's much less hardline than everyone before him, which is refreshing. He's really just talking about soft power and diplomacy.

The speech is right here.


If you actually watch it (I doubt you will, but others might) it's clear he's talking about civilian activism. Right before the statement, he talks about expanding AmeriCorps/PeaceCorps/etc. and right after he talks about increasing the number of foreign service officers, etc.

Here's a good article on it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/magazine/04obama-t.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&hp&oref=slogin&oref=login

Unless you're a major hawk, it's difficult not to appreciate his stance. Like the article says, the majority of foreign policy experts (actual analysts/academics, not TV personalities) are in his camp. I'm pretty sure the rest of the world is glad that he's talking diplomacy first.

I actually hadn't read it before, but the way he talks about Kennan and others makes me <3 him so much more.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
aRod
Profile Joined July 2007
United States758 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-08 00:45:00
October 08 2008 00:42 GMT
#2105
evandi, I wish wholeheartedly that you suffer immensely. I hope you somehow get dissabled, burned, or horrificly disfigured. I would hope that some evils befall you that effects you emotionally, but it appears you have no soul or conscience to speak of.

Making a vague comparison with an incredibly weak symantic relationship in order to get attention and troll in a thread shows your lack of maturity. Do you really need attention that bad?

Edit* Please do the world a favor and kill yourself you pathetic waste of life.
Live to win.
wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
October 08 2008 00:42 GMT
#2106
Any idea where in the speech it is since I would like to hear that portion +/- ~1 minute.
evandi
Profile Joined June 2008
United States266 Posts
October 08 2008 00:45 GMT
#2107
On October 08 2008 09:33 Jibba wrote:
Even conservative blogs have acknowledged that he didn't mean a national police force (and he didn't say it either.) He said 'civilian national security force' and in political terms, national security is an extremely vague term meaning essentially anything that improves your country. It's a somewhat statist view of geopolitics but it's much less hardline than everyone before him, which is refreshing. He's really just talking about soft power and diplomacy.

The speech is right here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df2p6867_pw

If you actually watch it (I doubt you will, but others might) it's clear he's talking about civilian activism. Right before the statement, he talks about expaning AmeriCorps/PeaceCorps/etc. and right after he talks about increasing the number of foreign service officers, etc.


That is the speech, and quite possibly the very youtube video, I got that from.

I don't want to listen to the whole thing, but I believe he says that it is to be as large and well founded as the military.

That implies quite a huge army inside our borders for some reason.

What reason? I have no idea. It honestly on paper sounds a lot like the SS right?

It sounds exactly like the SS in so far as that small amount of detail given.

The nytimes is not a conservative blog. They defend him and blast Palin at every chance they get. They are almost as partisan as daily kos.
evandi
Profile Joined June 2008
United States266 Posts
October 08 2008 00:47 GMT
#2108
On October 08 2008 09:42 aRod wrote:
evandi, I wish wholeheartedly that you suffer immensely. I hope you somehow get dissabled, burned, or horrificly disfigured. I would hope that some evils befall you that effects you emotionally, but it appears you have no soul or conscience to speak of.

Making a vague comparison with an incredibly weak symantic relationship in order to get attention and troll in a thread shows your lack of maturity. Do you really need attention that bad?

Edit* Please do the world a favor and kill yourself you pathetic waste of life.


This wasn't my original argument. I just threw this out there when someone jokingly compared Obama to Stalin.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 08 2008 00:48 GMT
#2109
Do you know what AmeriCorps does?

wordsmen, it's somewhere around 15 minutes.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
October 08 2008 00:49 GMT
#2110
dont you guys understand the internet?

you ignore trolls, not debate them
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
October 08 2008 00:50 GMT
#2111
Wow, I leave the thread for a few days and look what happens
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-08 00:51:56
October 08 2008 00:51 GMT
#2112
Yeah, but I owe him some credit because I wouldn't have found this Obama Soft Power article without him. It's making me appreciate Obama's FP stance even more. Savio, you should read it.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
evandi
Profile Joined June 2008
United States266 Posts
October 08 2008 00:52 GMT
#2113
On October 08 2008 09:49 fusionsdf wrote:
dont you guys understand the internet?

you ignore trolls, not debate them


Right. You ignore people who disagree with your political views. You don't debate them.

You hide in a bubble and only listen to like-minded people.
aRod
Profile Joined July 2007
United States758 Posts
October 08 2008 00:55 GMT
#2114
On October 08 2008 09:47 evandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2008 09:42 aRod wrote:
evandi, I wish wholeheartedly that you suffer immensely. I hope you somehow get dissabled, burned, or horrificly disfigured. I would hope that some evils befall you that effects you emotionally, but it appears you have no soul or conscience to speak of.

Making a vague comparison with an incredibly weak symantic relationship in order to get attention and troll in a thread shows your lack of maturity. Do you really need attention that bad?

Edit* Please do the world a favor and kill yourself you pathetic waste of life.


This wasn't my original argument. I just threw this out there when someone jokingly compared Obama to Stalin.


Is this supposed to be a defense of your baseless juvenile rants?
Live to win.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
October 08 2008 00:55 GMT
#2115
On October 08 2008 09:45 evandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2008 09:33 Jibba wrote:
Even conservative blogs have acknowledged that he didn't mean a national police force (and he didn't say it either.) He said 'civilian national security force' and in political terms, national security is an extremely vague term meaning essentially anything that improves your country. It's a somewhat statist view of geopolitics but it's much less hardline than everyone before him, which is refreshing. He's really just talking about soft power and diplomacy.

The speech is right here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df2p6867_pw

If you actually watch it (I doubt you will, but others might) it's clear he's talking about civilian activism. Right before the statement, he talks about expaning AmeriCorps/PeaceCorps/etc. and right after he talks about increasing the number of foreign service officers, etc.


That is the speech, and quite possibly the very youtube video, I got that from.

I don't want to listen to the whole thing, but I believe he says that it is to be as large and well founded as the military.

That implies quite a huge army inside our borders for some reason.

What reason? I have no idea. It honestly on paper sounds a lot like the SS right?

It sounds exactly like the SS in so far as that small amount of detail given.

The nytimes is not a conservative blog. They defend him and blast Palin at every chance they get. They are almost as partisan as daily kos.


I'm a bit confused now. SS were nazis so Obama = Stalin or Hitler ? Because you said he is a commie but SS =/= commie.
Please explain me !
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
evandi
Profile Joined June 2008
United States266 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-08 01:03:50
October 08 2008 01:01 GMT
#2116
On October 08 2008 09:55 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2008 09:45 evandi wrote:
On October 08 2008 09:33 Jibba wrote:
Even conservative blogs have acknowledged that he didn't mean a national police force (and he didn't say it either.) He said 'civilian national security force' and in political terms, national security is an extremely vague term meaning essentially anything that improves your country. It's a somewhat statist view of geopolitics but it's much less hardline than everyone before him, which is refreshing. He's really just talking about soft power and diplomacy.

The speech is right here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df2p6867_pw

If you actually watch it (I doubt you will, but others might) it's clear he's talking about civilian activism. Right before the statement, he talks about expaning AmeriCorps/PeaceCorps/etc. and right after he talks about increasing the number of foreign service officers, etc.


That is the speech, and quite possibly the very youtube video, I got that from.

I don't want to listen to the whole thing, but I believe he says that it is to be as large and well founded as the military.

That implies quite a huge army inside our borders for some reason.

What reason? I have no idea. It honestly on paper sounds a lot like the SS right?

It sounds exactly like the SS in so far as that small amount of detail given.

The nytimes is not a conservative blog. They defend him and blast Palin at every chance they get. They are almost as partisan as daily kos.


I'm a bit confused now. SS were nazis so Obama = Stalin or Hitler ? Because you said he is a commie but SS =/= commie.
Please explain me !


You brought up a comparison asking me if Obama was like stalin. Obviously Stalin and Hitler had similar characteristics. If I point out that he is like Hitler he is also like Stalin. But I was not seriously making a point, just merely bringing something up.

EDIT: Whoops. I mean YOU brought up the comparison, not SOMEONE
evandi
Profile Joined June 2008
United States266 Posts
October 08 2008 01:05 GMT
#2117
On October 08 2008 09:55 aRod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2008 09:47 evandi wrote:
On October 08 2008 09:42 aRod wrote:
evandi, I wish wholeheartedly that you suffer immensely. I hope you somehow get dissabled, burned, or horrificly disfigured. I would hope that some evils befall you that effects you emotionally, but it appears you have no soul or conscience to speak of.

Making a vague comparison with an incredibly weak symantic relationship in order to get attention and troll in a thread shows your lack of maturity. Do you really need attention that bad?

Edit* Please do the world a favor and kill yourself you pathetic waste of life.


This wasn't my original argument. I just threw this out there when someone jokingly compared Obama to Stalin.


Is this supposed to be a defense of your baseless juvenile rants?


I don't have any baseless juvenile rants.
evandi
Profile Joined June 2008
United States266 Posts
October 08 2008 01:07 GMT
#2118
On October 08 2008 09:48 Jibba wrote:
Do you know what AmeriCorps does?

wordsmen, it's somewhere around 15 minutes.


I said that at the very LEAST, it would cost a whole lot of money.

But he uses the term National Security which implies more than Americorps. It could have been meant as something in addition to what he already brought up.
aRod
Profile Joined July 2007
United States758 Posts
October 08 2008 01:08 GMT
#2119
On October 08 2008 10:05 evandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2008 09:55 aRod wrote:
On October 08 2008 09:47 evandi wrote:
On October 08 2008 09:42 aRod wrote:
evandi, I wish wholeheartedly that you suffer immensely. I hope you somehow get dissabled, burned, or horrificly disfigured. I would hope that some evils befall you that effects you emotionally, but it appears you have no soul or conscience to speak of.

Making a vague comparison with an incredibly weak symantic relationship in order to get attention and troll in a thread shows your lack of maturity. Do you really need attention that bad?

Edit* Please do the world a favor and kill yourself you pathetic waste of life.


This wasn't my original argument. I just threw this out there when someone jokingly compared Obama to Stalin.


Is this supposed to be a defense of your baseless juvenile rants?


I don't have any baseless juvenile rants.


Your a shit faced liar
Live to win.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
October 08 2008 01:09 GMT
#2120
On October 08 2008 10:01 evandi wrote:
You brought up a comparison asking me if Obama was like stalin. Obviously Stalin and Hitler had similar characteristics. If I point out that he is like Hitler he is also like Stalin. But I was not seriously making a point, just merely bringing something up.

EDIT: Whoops. I mean YOU brought up the comparison, not SOMEONE

I'm sure you said he is a commie ! And you were the first to talk about SS. Don't be shy !
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Prev 1 104 105 106 107 108 130 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
12:00
#61
WardiTV1181
TKL 257
Harstem192
Rex131
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Reynor 431
Lowko257
TKL 257
Harstem 192
Rex 131
ProTech115
BRAT_OK 47
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 41619
Calm 9010
Horang2 1561
EffOrt 1092
Soma 720
Jaedong 701
Stork 483
Larva 469
firebathero 404
Rush 250
[ Show more ]
Pusan 187
ToSsGirL 88
Mind 85
Killer 74
Sea.KH 64
sas.Sziky 29
scan(afreeca) 25
yabsab 23
Rock 12
Hm[arnc] 10
NaDa 9
ivOry 8
Dota 2
Gorgc4726
qojqva2476
Dendi1176
XcaliburYe172
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2047
pashabiceps1063
allub278
oskar149
markeloff82
Other Games
hiko573
Pyrionflax448
B2W.Neo438
crisheroes329
Fuzer 287
Hui .276
Sick212
Liquid`LucifroN140
QueenE66
Happy8
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream12754
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream1754
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 70
StarCraft 2
IntoTheiNu 21
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 6
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 8
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2057
• WagamamaTV302
League of Legends
• Nemesis3491
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
2h 26m
Replay Cast
8h 26m
ChoboTeamLeague
10h 26m
WardiTV Korean Royale
21h 26m
BSL: GosuLeague
1d 6h
PiGosaur Cup
1d 10h
The PondCast
1d 19h
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
herO vs Zoun
Classic vs Reynor
Maru vs SHIN
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
BSL: GosuLeague
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
IPSL
5 days
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
RSL Revival
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
IPSL
6 days
StRyKeR vs OldBoy
Sziky vs Tarson
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-14
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.