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evandi
Profile Joined June 2008
United States266 Posts
October 07 2008 23:39 GMT
#2081
On October 08 2008 08:36 KOFgokuon wrote:
did you even read the part about college? It's worth $4,000, but you don't have to do it
it's an OPPORTUNITY TAX CREDIT
And let's be honest here, a $4,000 tax credit for 100 hours of work? That's $40 an hour that's hardly slave labor


I said about the college part that it is still forced labor, and it is mandatory.

I'm referring to the middle-school and high-school requirements when I rightly call it slavery.
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
October 07 2008 23:40 GMT
#2082
I didn't know about this plan, but as I think about it, I like it alot. It accomplishes several goals at the same time, namely sending more kids to college while getting things done and hopefully establishing an ethic of communal responsibility in the next generation. I wish Obama had been president while I was going to High School
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
evandi
Profile Joined June 2008
United States266 Posts
October 07 2008 23:40 GMT
#2083
On October 08 2008 08:38 Enki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2008 08:33 evandi wrote:
Umm...

Ok, we'll make a law requiring you to be my slave on Mondays. Don't complain


Not a fag like you, sorry to disappoint.

Do something else with your time instead of refreshing a website and posting shitty rebuttals when you are obviously getting raped up the ass.


Well, don't whine about it. This is not a thread for complaining.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
October 07 2008 23:40 GMT
#2084
evandi, you clearly don't know what slavery is. If you don't want to do community service, that's your choice. Nobody is forcing you to, and nobody is taking away your personal liberties if you don't. That's an obvious difference that a narrow-minded person like you must not understand.
evandi
Profile Joined June 2008
United States266 Posts
October 07 2008 23:42 GMT
#2085
On October 08 2008 08:40 GeneralStan wrote:
I didn't know about this plan, but as I think about it, I like it alot. It accomplishes several goals at the same time, namely sending more kids to college while getting things done and hopefully establishing an ethic of communal responsibility in the next generation. I wish Obama had been president while I was going to High School


Well, I like slavery to. I think we should bring it back. I think there just wasn't enough slavery in the past.

I would like the next generation to understand the value of forced labor.

Perhaps someday we can all be slaves together, but until then we can only hope for such wisdom as candidates like Obama would lend us if only he were president.
evandi
Profile Joined June 2008
United States266 Posts
October 07 2008 23:44 GMT
#2086
On October 08 2008 08:40 BlackJack wrote:
evandi, you clearly don't know what slavery is. If you don't want to do community service, that's your choice. Nobody is forcing you to, and nobody is taking away your personal liberties if you don't. That's an obvious difference that a narrow-minded person like you must not understand.


Well, BlackJack, I actually failed a class in Highschool because it had a mandatory volunteer work requirement. It made me so sick that I wouldn't do it. (they got rid of the requirement after that particular class)

My point is that this is all going to be mandatory. It is not going to be voluntary, hence it is slavery.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
October 07 2008 23:47 GMT
#2087
On October 08 2008 08:35 Jibba wrote:
igloo bahammas panda bananasplit Boxer require shoehorn T-ball Gamestop elephant Coldplay gadget fingernail groupsex

You made my day ( night lol )
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
October 07 2008 23:48 GMT
#2088
On October 08 2008 08:44 evandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2008 08:40 BlackJack wrote:
evandi, you clearly don't know what slavery is. If you don't want to do community service, that's your choice. Nobody is forcing you to, and nobody is taking away your personal liberties if you don't. That's an obvious difference that a narrow-minded person like you must not understand.


Well, BlackJack, I actually failed a class in Highschool because it had a mandatory volunteer work requirement. It made me so sick that I wouldn't do it. (they got rid of the requirement after that particular class)

My point is that this is all going to be mandatory. It is not going to be voluntary, hence it is slavery.


Forced labor that you didn't do? Good job contradicting yourself.

You made a choice, you chose not to do it, you did not receive a passing grade. Where is the slavery?

Is homework slavery? Cause they won't pass you if you don't do that either. So clearly that's "FORCED LABOR" as well.
evandi
Profile Joined June 2008
United States266 Posts
October 07 2008 23:51 GMT
#2089
On October 08 2008 08:48 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2008 08:44 evandi wrote:
On October 08 2008 08:40 BlackJack wrote:
evandi, you clearly don't know what slavery is. If you don't want to do community service, that's your choice. Nobody is forcing you to, and nobody is taking away your personal liberties if you don't. That's an obvious difference that a narrow-minded person like you must not understand.


Well, BlackJack, I actually failed a class in Highschool because it had a mandatory volunteer work requirement. It made me so sick that I wouldn't do it. (they got rid of the requirement after that particular class)

My point is that this is all going to be mandatory. It is not going to be voluntary, hence it is slavery.


Forced labor that you didn't do? Good job contradicting yourself.

You made a choice, you chose not to do it, you did not receive a passing grade. Where is the slavery?

Is homework slavery? Cause they won't pass you if you don't do that either. So clearly that's "FORCED LABOR" as well.


Umm, I thought the words "requirement: volunteer work" was contradictory.

Its not right to announce public education and then require children to work after demonizing child-labor.
evandi
Profile Joined June 2008
United States266 Posts
October 07 2008 23:52 GMT
#2090
On October 08 2008 08:48 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2008 08:44 evandi wrote:
On October 08 2008 08:40 BlackJack wrote:
evandi, you clearly don't know what slavery is. If you don't want to do community service, that's your choice. Nobody is forcing you to, and nobody is taking away your personal liberties if you don't. That's an obvious difference that a narrow-minded person like you must not understand.


Well, BlackJack, I actually failed a class in Highschool because it had a mandatory volunteer work requirement. It made me so sick that I wouldn't do it. (they got rid of the requirement after that particular class)

My point is that this is all going to be mandatory. It is not going to be voluntary, hence it is slavery.


Forced labor that you didn't do? Good job contradicting yourself.

You made a choice, you chose not to do it, you did not receive a passing grade. Where is the slavery?

Is homework slavery? Cause they won't pass you if you don't do that either. So clearly that's "FORCED LABOR" as well.


Everything taught in school is supposed to be educational. Work is not education.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
October 07 2008 23:53 GMT
#2091
You're an idiot for taking a class that had a requirement that you didn't want to do
Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
October 07 2008 23:53 GMT
#2092
On October 08 2008 08:44 evandi wrote:
Well, BlackJack, I actually failed a class in Highschool because it had a mandatory volunteer work requirement. It made me so sick that I wouldn't do it. (they got rid of the requirement after that particular class)

My point is that this is all going to be mandatory. It is not going to be voluntary, hence it is slavery.


I have a friend that lived in Jacksonville and they had a volunteer work requirement for high school, big deal. Volunteer work is a great public service, glad it makes you feel "sick" to help others. Fuck you to hell kid.

Maybe you should be bitching at your teacher that made you do it then? Seems like you're bitter about that whole ordeal

And for the last part, countless people have already said it is not mandatory, just pay the extra $4k yourself then.
"Practice, practice, practice. And when you're not practicing you should be practicing. It's the only way to get better. The only way." I run the Smix Fanclub!
evandi
Profile Joined June 2008
United States266 Posts
October 07 2008 23:54 GMT
#2093
On October 08 2008 08:53 KOFgokuon wrote:
You're an idiot for taking a class that had a requirement that you didn't want to do


You're an idiot for thinking that.

It was a required class.

And even if it wasn't, the activities of high-school classes aren't all anounced ahead of time.
yoshtodd
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States418 Posts
October 07 2008 23:54 GMT
#2094
Hate it when I take the troll bait... this guy isn't serious he's just trolling. Anyway if he is serious, it just makes Obama look better because if someone this stupid were vehemently for Obama I'd feel sort of ashamed and embarrassed. Now I just feel more anti Mccain because this sort of outrageous slander reminds me of his current campaign.
moo
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
October 07 2008 23:55 GMT
#2095
On October 08 2008 08:51 evandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2008 08:48 BlackJack wrote:
On October 08 2008 08:44 evandi wrote:
On October 08 2008 08:40 BlackJack wrote:
evandi, you clearly don't know what slavery is. If you don't want to do community service, that's your choice. Nobody is forcing you to, and nobody is taking away your personal liberties if you don't. That's an obvious difference that a narrow-minded person like you must not understand.


Well, BlackJack, I actually failed a class in Highschool because it had a mandatory volunteer work requirement. It made me so sick that I wouldn't do it. (they got rid of the requirement after that particular class)

My point is that this is all going to be mandatory. It is not going to be voluntary, hence it is slavery.


Forced labor that you didn't do? Good job contradicting yourself.

You made a choice, you chose not to do it, you did not receive a passing grade. Where is the slavery?

Is homework slavery? Cause they won't pass you if you don't do that either. So clearly that's "FORCED LABOR" as well.


Umm, I thought the words "requirement: volunteer work" was contradictory.

Its not right to announce public education and then require children to work after demonizing child-labor.


The requirement is community service, not volunteer work. Everything you do in school is work. You do it for a degree, not because you are forced. They can't force you to learn, and I think you're proof of that.
evandi
Profile Joined June 2008
United States266 Posts
October 07 2008 23:56 GMT
#2096
On October 08 2008 08:53 Enki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2008 08:44 evandi wrote:
Well, BlackJack, I actually failed a class in Highschool because it had a mandatory volunteer work requirement. It made me so sick that I wouldn't do it. (they got rid of the requirement after that particular class)

My point is that this is all going to be mandatory. It is not going to be voluntary, hence it is slavery.


I have a friend that lived in Jacksonville and they had a volunteer work requirement for high school, big deal. Volunteer work is a great public service, glad it makes you feel "sick" to help others. Fuck you to hell kid.

Maybe you should be bitching at your teacher that made you do it then? Seems like you're bitter about that whole ordeal

And for the last part, countless people have already said it is not mandatory, just pay the extra $4k yourself then.


I'm not a kid.

No, they said we had to volunteer. If that doesn't make you sick, I don't know what should.

My time belongs to me. If I want to volunteer that would have to be voluntary. To twist volunteerism into something that is involuntary servitude is sickening.

I'm sorry, but I know how to read and I'm only taking this from Obama's website.

But you know what? Charles Rangel, that rascal also tries to pass a bill requiring community service every once in a while, so I'm not crazy for reading this correctly.
evandi
Profile Joined June 2008
United States266 Posts
October 07 2008 23:58 GMT
#2097
On October 08 2008 08:55 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2008 08:51 evandi wrote:
On October 08 2008 08:48 BlackJack wrote:
On October 08 2008 08:44 evandi wrote:
On October 08 2008 08:40 BlackJack wrote:
evandi, you clearly don't know what slavery is. If you don't want to do community service, that's your choice. Nobody is forcing you to, and nobody is taking away your personal liberties if you don't. That's an obvious difference that a narrow-minded person like you must not understand.


Well, BlackJack, I actually failed a class in Highschool because it had a mandatory volunteer work requirement. It made me so sick that I wouldn't do it. (they got rid of the requirement after that particular class)

My point is that this is all going to be mandatory. It is not going to be voluntary, hence it is slavery.


Forced labor that you didn't do? Good job contradicting yourself.

You made a choice, you chose not to do it, you did not receive a passing grade. Where is the slavery?

Is homework slavery? Cause they won't pass you if you don't do that either. So clearly that's "FORCED LABOR" as well.


Umm, I thought the words "requirement: volunteer work" was contradictory.

Its not right to announce public education and then require children to work after demonizing child-labor.


The requirement is community service, not volunteer work. Everything you do in school is work. You do it for a degree, not because you are forced. They can't force you to learn, and I think you're proof of that.


Oh, god, dude. It was specifically called "volunteer work". They told us to volunteer to make it sound better.

School is about improving ones self. Work does not set you free, thats more along the lines of Nazism.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
October 07 2008 23:59 GMT
#2098
On October 08 2008 08:56 evandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2008 08:53 Enki wrote:
On October 08 2008 08:44 evandi wrote:
Well, BlackJack, I actually failed a class in Highschool because it had a mandatory volunteer work requirement. It made me so sick that I wouldn't do it. (they got rid of the requirement after that particular class)

My point is that this is all going to be mandatory. It is not going to be voluntary, hence it is slavery.


I have a friend that lived in Jacksonville and they had a volunteer work requirement for high school, big deal. Volunteer work is a great public service, glad it makes you feel "sick" to help others. Fuck you to hell kid.

Maybe you should be bitching at your teacher that made you do it then? Seems like you're bitter about that whole ordeal

And for the last part, countless people have already said it is not mandatory, just pay the extra $4k yourself then.


I'm not a kid.

No, they said we had to volunteer. If that doesn't make you sick, I don't know what should.

My time belongs to me. If I want to volunteer that would have to be voluntary. To twist volunteerism into something that is involuntary servitude is sickening.

I'm sorry, but I know how to read and I'm only taking this from Obama's website.

But you know what? Charles Rangel, that rascal also tries to pass a bill requiring community service every once in a while, so I'm not crazy for reading this correctly.


Obama = Stalin ?
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
evandi
Profile Joined June 2008
United States266 Posts
October 08 2008 00:00 GMT
#2099
On October 08 2008 08:54 yoshtodd wrote:
Hate it when I take the troll bait... this guy isn't serious he's just trolling. Anyway if he is serious, it just makes Obama look better because if someone this stupid were vehemently for Obama I'd feel sort of ashamed and embarrassed. Now I just feel more anti Mccain because this sort of outrageous slander reminds me of his current campaign.


Well, almost everything said about Obama that is bad is considered crazy by Obama believers.
evandi
Profile Joined June 2008
United States266 Posts
October 08 2008 00:01 GMT
#2100
On October 08 2008 08:59 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2008 08:56 evandi wrote:
On October 08 2008 08:53 Enki wrote:
On October 08 2008 08:44 evandi wrote:
Well, BlackJack, I actually failed a class in Highschool because it had a mandatory volunteer work requirement. It made me so sick that I wouldn't do it. (they got rid of the requirement after that particular class)

My point is that this is all going to be mandatory. It is not going to be voluntary, hence it is slavery.


I have a friend that lived in Jacksonville and they had a volunteer work requirement for high school, big deal. Volunteer work is a great public service, glad it makes you feel "sick" to help others. Fuck you to hell kid.

Maybe you should be bitching at your teacher that made you do it then? Seems like you're bitter about that whole ordeal

And for the last part, countless people have already said it is not mandatory, just pay the extra $4k yourself then.


I'm not a kid.

No, they said we had to volunteer. If that doesn't make you sick, I don't know what should.

My time belongs to me. If I want to volunteer that would have to be voluntary. To twist volunteerism into something that is involuntary servitude is sickening.

I'm sorry, but I know how to read and I'm only taking this from Obama's website.

But you know what? Charles Rangel, that rascal also tries to pass a bill requiring community service every once in a while, so I'm not crazy for reading this correctly.


Obama = Stalin ?

He could be. He has some scary proposals.

He also called for some sort of national security force as large as the army. Sounds like a police state. Of course he must mean well. If you say so.
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