EPTI think Hilary is probably not going to be so,
and I'm curious to what Hilary has to say about this, or if she's going to go have a psychological breakdown and divorce Bill
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I think Hilary is probably not going to be so, and I'm curious to what Hilary has to say about this, or if she's going to go have a psychological breakdown and divorce Bill | ||
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a-game
Canada5214 Posts
so she's loaned herself $11.4 million so far http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080507/pl_bloomberg/amp3zdxnwtkm;_ylt=Am7ce.bFHA5hFff_WHGdwp9snwcF btw... it's easy to forget, but obama beating clinton is a HUGE HUGE upset. i'm really amazed that he's pulled it off | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Clinton's recent embrace of a "gas-tax holiday" — an idea dismissed by others in her party as a bit of ineffective pandering — also reinforced questions about her trustworthiness. In Indiana exit polls, a full quarter of Clinton's own supporters said that they did not think she was honest. Just as Obama suffered in Ohio for looking like he was too political on NAFTA, Clinton's position on the gas tax issue riled Indiana voters, who consistently raised it in conversations with reporters the weekend before the primary vote. Clinton's Faltering Case for Staying In | ||
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shmay
United States1091 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Also Wednesday, aides disclosed that Clinton had lent her campaign $6.4 million since mid-April, on top of a separate $5 million loan in February. She contributed $5 million on April 11, $1 million on May 1 and $425,000 on May 5. Another sign of trouble came as a much-hoped for spike in Internet fundraising didn't materialize after Tuesday's results. After winning Pennsylvania decisively on April 22, the Clinton campaign said it raised about $10 million in 24 hours; aides Wednesday said they had seen a bump in online cash but nothing close to their post-Pennsylvania success. Also this pisses me off: But Clinton's team acknowledged that even if both states' delegations were seated, she would still not close the gap with Obama, who leads Clinton by about 150 delegates. Clinton said Wednesday that she would be sending a letter to Obama and Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean expressing her view that seating the Florida and Michigan delegations is a civil rights and voting rights issue. Am I reading this right, if she believes this why did she sign acknowledging the Democratic rules to rule out Michigan and Florida. Think she would give two craps about all 50 states if she was still front running or cared 9 months ago. No. EDIT: Also it's pretty funny to see Sean Hannity pretty much do everything but foam at the mouth in support of Hillary. I think the Republicans would rather face off against Clinton because she is so easy to target other than Obama which might result in the party seeming to racist attacks. | ||
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a-game
Canada5214 Posts
Pundits Declare the Race Over http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/us/politics/07cnd-pundits.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On May 08 2008 06:05 pooper-scooper wrote: For god sakes, I hope he doesn't choose Edwards, I like Edwards, but he only appeals to the demographic that Obama already DOMINATES. He should pick some downtown country boy. Truthfully, I think if he could choose Huckabee, that would be an excellent choice for him. I wouldn't even mind Huckabee being incumbent in 8 years. What in the fuck. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11567 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
edit: According to Wikipedia that puts him behind by only 10. | ||
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Dr.Kill-Joy
United States627 Posts
Are you serious about Huckabee. I think you shouldn't vote. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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a-game
Canada5214 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://hillaryis404.org/hillary404.jpg) funny pun directed at the www.hillaryis44.org website | ||
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
On May 08 2008 13:15 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Am I reading this right, if she believes this why did she sign acknowledging the Democratic rules to rule out Michigan and Florida. Think she would give two craps about all 50 states if she was still front running or cared 9 months ago. No. Look dude, you have to consider not only from that point of view but from the GOP overall democratic strategy. Florida is a MAJOR swing-state, and if voters are pissed off that they weren't counted, it could be detrimental to the GOP nominee's presidential campaign. Thus, allowing a possible re-vote would be a nice compromise. | ||
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a-game
Canada5214 Posts
On May 08 2008 14:06 Superiorwolf wrote: Look dude, you have to consider not only from that point of view but from the GOP overall democratic strategy. Florida is a MAJOR swing-state, and if voters are pissed off that they weren't counted, it could be detrimental to the GOP nominee's presidential campaign. Thus, allowing a possible re-vote would be a nice compromise. that doesn't excuse her hypocrisy. obama's not against a re-vote, those states' legislatures shot down the revote proposals - not obama. at the end of the day florida and michigan will have their delegates seated at the convention. btw you are aware that the GOP is the republican party and not the democratic party right | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On May 08 2008 14:06 Superiorwolf wrote: Look dude, you have to consider not only from that point of view but from the GOP overall democratic strategy. Florida is a MAJOR swing-state, and if voters are pissed off that they weren't counted, it could be detrimental to the GOP nominee's presidential campaign. Thus, allowing a possible re-vote would be a nice compromise. Do you know what GOP means? Grand Ol' Party = Republicans As for whether FL/MI voters are pissed off about their votes not counting, they'd be more pissed off if it was given to Hillary, because no one else of importance was on the ballot. EDIT: So I applied to Obama's fellowship program for a summer internship and I've gotten two emails in two days asking for donations. >:| | ||
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Rev0lution
United States1805 Posts
I agree with the Edwards comment, [keeps reading] WHAT THE HUCK? Huckabee is a big no-no | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7232 Posts
Link I hope the story is wrong because this seems like an unnecessary risk to me. Declaring victory with a majority of the pledged delegates without getting the actual victory of a majority of total delegates (2025 discounting MI,FL) would antagonize Clinton supporters who Obama will need in the fall. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Edit: Even then I hope the Obama campaign wouldn't be that dumb. Hopefully it is a false report. | ||
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
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