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Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1133 Posts
May 08 2008 01:25 GMT
#1361
I wonder who will be Obama's vice president pick.
I think Hilary is probably not going to be so,
and I'm curious to what Hilary has to say about this, or if she's going to go have a psychological breakdown and divorce Bill
:D
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5107 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-08 01:53:42
May 08 2008 01:29 GMT
#1362
hillary recently loaned herself another $6.4 million.

so she's loaned herself $11.4 million so far

http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080507/pl_bloomberg/amp3zdxnwtkm;_ylt=Am7ce.bFHA5hFff_WHGdwp9snwcF

btw... it's easy to forget, but obama beating clinton is a HUGE HUGE upset. i'm really amazed that he's pulled it off
"you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen" - racebannon
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 08 2008 01:44 GMT
#1363
TIME's article:

Clinton's recent embrace of a "gas-tax holiday" — an idea dismissed by others in her party as a bit of ineffective pandering — also reinforced questions about her trustworthiness. In Indiana exit polls, a full quarter of Clinton's own supporters said that they did not think she was honest. Just as Obama suffered in Ohio for looking like he was too political on NAFTA, Clinton's position on the gas tax issue riled Indiana voters, who consistently raised it in conversations with reporters the weekend before the primary vote.



Clinton's Faltering Case for Staying In
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
shmay
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States1091 Posts
May 08 2008 01:44 GMT
#1364
she's such a horrible politician. al gore was more likable.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 08 2008 03:30 GMT
#1365
lol huckabee. is that a joke
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-08 04:17:21
May 08 2008 04:15 GMT
#1366
Money math time:

Also Wednesday, aides disclosed that Clinton had lent her campaign $6.4 million since mid-April, on top of a separate $5 million loan in February. She contributed $5 million on April 11, $1 million on May 1 and $425,000 on May 5.


Another sign of trouble came as a much-hoped for spike in Internet fundraising didn't materialize after Tuesday's results. After winning Pennsylvania decisively on April 22, the Clinton campaign said it raised about $10 million in 24 hours; aides Wednesday said they had seen a bump in online cash but nothing close to their post-Pennsylvania success.



Also this pisses me off:

But Clinton's team acknowledged that even if both states' delegations were seated, she would still not close the gap with Obama, who leads Clinton by about 150 delegates. Clinton said Wednesday that she would be sending a letter to Obama and Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean expressing her view that seating the Florida and Michigan delegations is a civil rights and voting rights issue.


Am I reading this right, if she believes this why did she sign acknowledging the Democratic rules to rule out Michigan and Florida. Think she would give two craps about all 50 states if she was still front running or cared 9 months ago. No.

EDIT: Also it's pretty funny to see Sean Hannity pretty much do everything but foam at the mouth in support of Hillary. I think the Republicans would rather face off against Clinton because she is so easy to target other than Obama which might result in the party seeming to racist attacks.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5107 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-08 04:38:15
May 08 2008 04:16 GMT
#1367


Pundits Declare the Race Over

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/us/politics/07cnd-pundits.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
"you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen" - racebannon
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
May 08 2008 04:23 GMT
#1368
On May 08 2008 06:05 pooper-scooper wrote:
For god sakes, I hope he doesn't choose Edwards, I like Edwards, but he only appeals to the demographic that Obama already DOMINATES. He should pick some downtown country boy. Truthfully, I think if he could choose Huckabee, that would be an excellent choice for him. I wouldn't even mind Huckabee being incumbent in 8 years.


What in the fuck.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11556 Posts
May 08 2008 04:24 GMT
#1369
Yeah, Clinton is fucking ownt. No way to get superdelegates
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-08 04:31:39
May 08 2008 04:29 GMT
#1370
AP says 4 Superdelegates have gone his way today but couldn't find the names. She added two.

edit: According to Wikipedia that puts him behind by only 10.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Dr.Kill-Joy
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States627 Posts
May 08 2008 04:31 GMT
#1371
On May 08 2008 13:23 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2008 06:05 pooper-scooper wrote:
For god sakes, I hope he doesn't choose Edwards, I like Edwards, but he only appeals to the demographic that Obama already DOMINATES. He should pick some downtown country boy. Truthfully, I think if he could choose Huckabee, that would be an excellent choice for him. I wouldn't even mind Huckabee being incumbent in 8 years.


What in the fuck.



Are you serious about Huckabee. I think you shouldn't vote.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 08 2008 04:53 GMT
#1372
i srsly lol'd there
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5107 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-08 04:57:56
May 08 2008 04:57 GMT
#1373
http://hillaryis404.org/

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funny pun directed at the www.hillaryis44.org website
"you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen" - racebannon
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
May 08 2008 05:06 GMT
#1374
On May 08 2008 13:15 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:


Show nested quote +
But Clinton's team acknowledged that even if both states' delegations were seated, she would still not close the gap with Obama, who leads Clinton by about 150 delegates. Clinton said Wednesday that she would be sending a letter to Obama and Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean expressing her view that seating the Florida and Michigan delegations is a civil rights and voting rights issue.


Am I reading this right, if she believes this why did she sign acknowledging the Democratic rules to rule out Michigan and Florida. Think she would give two craps about all 50 states if she was still front running or cared 9 months ago. No.


Look dude, you have to consider not only from that point of view but from the GOP overall democratic strategy. Florida is a MAJOR swing-state, and if voters are pissed off that they weren't counted, it could be detrimental to the GOP nominee's presidential campaign. Thus, allowing a possible re-vote would be a nice compromise.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5107 Posts
May 08 2008 05:12 GMT
#1375
On May 08 2008 14:06 Superiorwolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2008 13:15 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:


But Clinton's team acknowledged that even if both states' delegations were seated, she would still not close the gap with Obama, who leads Clinton by about 150 delegates. Clinton said Wednesday that she would be sending a letter to Obama and Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean expressing her view that seating the Florida and Michigan delegations is a civil rights and voting rights issue.


Am I reading this right, if she believes this why did she sign acknowledging the Democratic rules to rule out Michigan and Florida. Think she would give two craps about all 50 states if she was still front running or cared 9 months ago. No.


Look dude, you have to consider not only from that point of view but from the GOP overall democratic strategy. Florida is a MAJOR swing-state, and if voters are pissed off that they weren't counted, it could be detrimental to the GOP nominee's presidential campaign. Thus, allowing a possible re-vote would be a nice compromise.

that doesn't excuse her hypocrisy. obama's not against a re-vote, those states' legislatures shot down the revote proposals - not obama.

at the end of the day florida and michigan will have their delegates seated at the convention. btw you are aware that the GOP is the republican party and not the democratic party right
"you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen" - racebannon
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-08 12:51:41
May 08 2008 12:50 GMT
#1376
On May 08 2008 14:06 Superiorwolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2008 13:15 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:


But Clinton's team acknowledged that even if both states' delegations were seated, she would still not close the gap with Obama, who leads Clinton by about 150 delegates. Clinton said Wednesday that she would be sending a letter to Obama and Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean expressing her view that seating the Florida and Michigan delegations is a civil rights and voting rights issue.


Am I reading this right, if she believes this why did she sign acknowledging the Democratic rules to rule out Michigan and Florida. Think she would give two craps about all 50 states if she was still front running or cared 9 months ago. No.


Look dude, you have to consider not only from that point of view but from the GOP overall democratic strategy. Florida is a MAJOR swing-state, and if voters are pissed off that they weren't counted, it could be detrimental to the GOP nominee's presidential campaign. Thus, allowing a possible re-vote would be a nice compromise.

Do you know what GOP means?

Grand Ol' Party = Republicans

As for whether FL/MI voters are pissed off about their votes not counting, they'd be more pissed off if it was given to Hillary, because no one else of importance was on the ballot.

EDIT: So I applied to Obama's fellowship program for a summer internship and I've gotten two emails in two days asking for donations. >:|
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Rev0lution
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1805 Posts
May 08 2008 14:47 GMT
#1377
On May 08 2008 13:23 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2008 06:05 pooper-scooper wrote:
For god sakes, I hope he doesn't choose Edwards, I like Edwards, but he only appeals to the demographic that Obama already DOMINATES. He should pick some downtown country boy. Truthfully, I think if he could choose Huckabee, that would be an excellent choice for him. I wouldn't even mind Huckabee being incumbent in 8 years.


What in the fuck.



I agree with the Edwards comment, [keeps reading]

WHAT THE HUCK? Huckabee is a big no-no
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NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7231 Posts
May 08 2008 15:07 GMT
#1378
Politico reporting Obama plans to declare victory on May 20th.

Link


I hope the story is wrong because this seems like an unnecessary risk to me. Declaring victory with a majority of the pledged delegates without getting the actual victory of a majority of total delegates (2025 discounting MI,FL) would antagonize Clinton supporters who Obama will need in the fall.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-08 17:52:13
May 08 2008 17:47 GMT
#1379
Yeah it does seem risky. Let's hope they know something we don't like a Superdelegate deal of some sort.

Edit: Even then I hope the Obama campaign wouldn't be that dumb. Hopefully it is a false report.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
May 08 2008 19:03 GMT
#1380
True. Claiming the win too early is an unnecessary risk and Obama wouldn't gain much from it. I don't believe Clinton would drop out of the race just because Obama says so.
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