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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 04 2008 22:16 GMT
#1041
On April 05 2008 06:48 fusionsdf wrote:
http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html

cool stuff, but too biased even for my taste.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 05 2008 22:06 GMT
#1042
Clinton ramps up call to count Fla, Mich

"Some say their votes should be ignored and the popular vote in Michigan and Florida should be discounted. Well, I have a different view," Clinton said at a rally here. "The popular vote in Florida and Michigan has already been counted. It was determined by election results, it was certified by election officials in each state, it's been officially tallied by the secretary of state in each state, and the question is whether those 2.3 million Democrats will be honored and their delegates seated by the Democratic party."


Both the Michigan and Florida primaries were essentially nullified after they were moved into January in violation of national Democratic party rules. The party voted to strip both states of their delegates and all the candidates, including Clinton and rival Barack Obama, signed a pledge not to campaign in either state.


"Senator Clinton herself said these contests 'didn't count for anything.' But now that it serves her own political self-interest, she's trying to change the rules and count the results of contests where she and every other candidate pledged not to campaign," Burton said. "In Michigan, Senator Obama wasn't even on the ballot. Our focus should now be on seating the Michigan and Florida delegations in a fair manner."
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
April 05 2008 22:36 GMT
#1043
It's pretty telling that she only got 58% of the vote in Michigan vs. Undecided.
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a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
April 07 2008 23:18 GMT
#1044
sweeeeet

mark penn is forced to resign!
you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon • I am merely guest #13,678!
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 07 2008 23:25 GMT
#1045

If Mark Penn had been a favorite within the Clinton campaign, it is difficult to believe that he would have been forced out over the Colombian affair. Sure, it was a dumb mistake – a “what was he thinking” moment. Still, it was a far cry from what one of Barack Obama’s top advisers did when he met with Canadian officials on NAFTA and his mistake properly set off a mini-firestorm. So, in the ordinary course of things, Mark Penn’s apology and a few days of reassuring labor unions would have been enough to quiet things down – and Penn would still be calling the shots.

But it is apparent that Clinton topsiders detest Mark Penn and hold him uniquely responsible for what has gone wrong in the campaign. When he went down last week, they lunged for the jugular and he couldn’t survive.

What difference will it make in the campaign, if any?


wow CNN's reporting is horrible
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-08 19:17:40
April 08 2008 19:17 GMT
#1046
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080408/ts_alt_afp/usvoteobamaclinton


"Obama is not only building on his own constituencies, but is taking away voters in Senator Hillary Clinton's strongest areas -- whites including white women, voters in the key swing Philadelphia suburbs and those who say the economy is the most important issue in the campaign," said Clay Richards, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.


Lets hope this keeps up.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
April 10 2008 01:16 GMT
#1047

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/09/asked-about-the-economy-mccain-cites-reagans-example/

"Asked About the Deficit, McCain Cites Reagan’s Example"

I hope people pay attention to this remark, because it clearly shows to me that McCain won't be much of a fiscal conservative, since the deficit tripled under Reagan
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 10 2008 18:05 GMT
#1048
The tale of money:

Obama:
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/4/9/191452/3683

Clinton:
http://cbs13.com/local/clinton.campaign.debt.2.694498.html
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 10 2008 23:48 GMT
#1049
UC Davis is planning to put its final bill out this week, and if the debt has not been settled within a month, they are going to turn the matter over to a collection agency.


Rofl, be great if they went to the Clinton's home.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 11 2008 22:35 GMT
#1050
Bosnia back in the news:

Clinton misstates wife's Bosnia tale

"Hillary called me and said 'You don't remember this. You weren't there, let me handle it.' I said, 'Yes ma'am,'" Bill Clinton, who was in Indiana campaigning for his wife Friday, told reporters.


CBS is actually reporting on this as well.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
April 11 2008 22:55 GMT
#1051
On April 10 2008 10:16 GeneralStan wrote:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/09/asked-about-the-economy-mccain-cites-reagans-example/

"Asked About the Deficit, McCain Cites Reagan’s Example"

I hope people pay attention to this remark, because it clearly shows to me that McCain won't be much of a fiscal conservative, since the deficit tripled under Reagan

You forget that the right wing doesn't care that Reagan was a poor president, they only care that he united Republicans.
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Rev0lution
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1805 Posts
April 11 2008 23:52 GMT
#1052
On April 12 2008 07:35 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Bosnia back in the news:

Clinton misstates wife's Bosnia tale

Show nested quote +
"Hillary called me and said 'You don't remember this. You weren't there, let me handle it.' I said, 'Yes ma'am,'" Bill Clinton, who was in Indiana campaigning for his wife Friday, told reporters.


CBS is actually reporting on this as well.



wow Bill Clinton screwed up, again!
My dealer is my best friend, and we don't even chill.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 12 2008 00:08 GMT
#1053
how much you want to bet it was a fed line?
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Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
April 12 2008 21:21 GMT
#1054
McCain is such a freaking douche.

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wtf was that signature
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 12 2008 21:52 GMT
#1055
I've mentioned this before but the rumors of McCain's temper have me a little uneasy. I just can't help but think that if he is insulted he'll do something stupid.That and I wonder how he will do in the debates whoever he versus. He always seems to be reading from a paper, head constantly goes down to what semes like he is giving an oral report.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
April 12 2008 22:08 GMT
#1056
Long story short Obama should win in a landslide or the countries voting system is mega rigged.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7229 Posts
April 14 2008 17:47 GMT
#1057
Obama has stopped gaining ground in Pennsylvania and support is currently eroding among the group he needs to make headway with the most: white working class voters. After his "bitter" comments Clinton appears to have regained ground and leads by double digits. An April 14th ARG poll has her up by 20 with voter blocks breaking more strongly along identity politics lines.
日本語が分かりますか
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 14 2008 18:08 GMT
#1058
Not good. At least he still holds a wide margin in NC. Maybe he can recover in Pennsylvania soon.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7229 Posts
April 14 2008 18:28 GMT
#1059
The only good news for Obama is that ARG, along with Zogby, is frequently among the least reliable polls. I'm willing to bet the actual margin is closer to 10% than 20%, but considering Obama had closed to within 4-6% it's still a backward slide.
日本語が分かりますか
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
April 14 2008 18:43 GMT
#1060
It's pretty ridiculous that he's getting criticized so much over the "bitterness" comments when the statement was perfectly sound. I understand the people he was talking about being somewhat upset, but the news coverage should be educated enough to know his comments would be supported by social science work since Durkheim.
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