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Rev0lution
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1805 Posts
January 29 2008 01:33 GMT
#181
On January 29 2008 10:27 MenzieK wrote:
Voting for Obama would be a terrible terrible mistake. His presidency would be disastrous for this country on a different level. I hope people start realizing the danger of him, his two contenders or any other mainstream establishment, corporate funded, status quo "promising" candidate.



and that is because?
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
January 29 2008 03:19 GMT
#182

WASHINGTON (CNN) – Massachusetts Sen. Ted Kennedy is under heavy fire from a state chapter of the National Organization for Women for his decision to back Barack Obama over Hillary Clinton.

In a sharply critical statement, the New York state chapter of NOW took aim at Kennedy Monday for what it called an "ultimate betrayal," and suggested the Massachusetts Democrat "can't or won't" handle the idea of Clinton becoming President of the United States.

"Sen. Kennedy’s endorsement of Hillary Clinton’s opponent in the Democratic presidential primary campaign has really hit women hard," said the statement. "Women have forgiven Kennedy, stuck up for him, stood by him, hushed the fact that he was late in his support of Title IX, the ERA, the Family Leave and Medical Act to name a few."

"And now the greatest betrayal! We are repaid with his abandonment!" the statement continues. "He’s picked the new guy over us. He’s joined the list of progressive white men who can’t or won’t handle the prospect of a woman president who is Hillary Clinton."

After months on the sidelines, Kennedy formally endorsed Obama Monday during a speech at American University, despite reported pleas from the Clinton campaign that he remain neutral. He hailed the Illinois senator for his potential to be a “president who appeals to the hopes of those who still believe in the American dream."

Kennedy also praised Clinton and John Edwards in his speech, saying that “whoever is our nominee will have my enthusiastic support."

But the NOW state chapter suggested Monday Kennedy's decision was a larger representation of society’s ongoing disrespect for women's rights.

"This latest move by Kennedy is so telling about the status of and respect for women’s rights, women’s voices, women’s equality, women’s authority and our ability – indeed, our obligation — to promote and earn and deserve and elect, unabashedly, a president that is the first woman after centuries of men who ‘know what’s best for us.’”

Meanwhile, the national chapter of NOW sought to distance itself from the state chapter’s comments, issuing a statement Monday evening that praised Kennedy's record with respect to women's rights.

"Though the National Organization for Women Political Action Committee has proudly endorsed Sen. Hillary Clinton for president, we respect Sen. Kennedy's endorsement," NOW President Kim Gandy said. "We continue to encourage women everywhere to express their opinions and exercise their right to vote."

Kennedy's office has not returned CNN's request for comment.


fuck you america, fuck you
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triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-29 04:18:10
January 29 2008 04:13 GMT
#183
I'm pretty sure that I've seen the military budget is our largest expense by a very, very large margin.


Other way around.

Voting for Obama would be a terrible terrible mistake. His presidency would be disastrous for this country on a different level. I hope people start realizing the danger of him, his two contenders or any other mainstream establishment, corporate funded, status quo "promising" candidate.

...? Care to explain why?

And that thing on Hillary is so pathetic. Voting based on gender is stupid.
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5102 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-29 14:10:58
January 29 2008 14:10 GMT
#184
i wonder how many people 2 months ago would of guessed that Giuliani would be obliterated before super tuesday.

well unless he pulls a miracle upset in Florida today, we're going to see the republican field thin out further

ad: and i wonder if the kennedys will be able to help obama put enough of a dent in super tuesday to keep him realistically in contention. she's got one hell of a stranglehold that's for sure.
"you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen" - racebannon
Jimtudor
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada259 Posts
January 29 2008 14:22 GMT
#185
Wow, I hope Barack Obama wins. The Clinton campaign's tactics are so nasty. Also, NOW's statements are so ridiculous. if you extend their logic, does it mean that you are against blacks and is racist if you don't vote for obama.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
January 29 2008 14:46 GMT
#186
On January 29 2008 13:13 triangle wrote:

And that thing on Hillary is so pathetic. Voting based on gender is stupid.


Voting on anything other that the quality of the candidate himself and his ideals is not just stupid, it's fucking retarded and you should be castrated. People who vote based on religion, gender or race make me fucking sick.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
January 29 2008 14:48 GMT
#187
On January 29 2008 10:27 MenzieK wrote:
Voting for Obama would be a terrible terrible mistake. His presidency would be disastrous for this country on a different level. I hope people start realizing the danger of him, his two contenders or any other mainstream establishment, corporate funded, status quo "promising" candidate.


Like others have said, I'd love it if you enlightened us and told us why you think this.
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DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-29 15:32:47
January 29 2008 14:55 GMT
#188
I really hope any of the democratic candidates wins the election. Id pick Obama as my first choice. I just dont see the rest of the world standing another 4 years of republican rule if they are going to continue the way they have the last 8 years. Looks like Bush is trying to patch up his record atm. Hope he continues with that and doesnt do anything stupid like attacking Iran before the election ;/ Not that I think he would. If Obama wins I think the future of the world will look a lot brighter than it does today. (Fucking Swedish winter with sundown at 4pm >_< )
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5102 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-29 16:05:53
January 29 2008 16:01 GMT
#189
JFK's brother, Ted Kennedy, made a speech yesterday that i enjoyed

His speech begins at the 8:00 mark



ad: it's the kind of speech young people should show their parents
"you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen" - racebannon
bine
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States2352 Posts
January 29 2008 16:04 GMT
#190
still waiting on a gore endorsement
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-29 19:12:53
January 29 2008 19:05 GMT
#191
On January 30 2008 01:01 a-game wrote:
JFK's brother, Ted Kennedy, made a speech yesterday that i enjoyed

His speech begins at the 8:00 mark

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UZqpLpxE72k&feature=related

ad: it's the kind of speech young people should show their parents


I wonder if the ability to hold amazing speeches is a genetical thing. I'm getting goosebumps whenever I hear a Kennedy speak.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 29 2008 20:01 GMT
#192
On January 30 2008 04:05 Mandalor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2008 01:01 a-game wrote:
JFK's brother, Ted Kennedy, made a speech yesterday that i enjoyed

His speech begins at the 8:00 mark

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UZqpLpxE72k&feature=related

ad: it's the kind of speech young people should show their parents


I wonder if the ability to hold amazing speeches is a genetical thing. I'm getting goosebumps whenever I hear a Kennedy speak.


Kennedy is a fucking murderer so being endorsed by him could be a double edged sword.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5102 Posts
January 29 2008 23:15 GMT
#193
in a general election maybe? but not in a democratic nomination.

kennedy pulls some weight among democrats
"you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen" - racebannon
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
January 29 2008 23:18 GMT
#194
On January 30 2008 05:01 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2008 04:05 Mandalor wrote:
On January 30 2008 01:01 a-game wrote:
JFK's brother, Ted Kennedy, made a speech yesterday that i enjoyed

His speech begins at the 8:00 mark

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UZqpLpxE72k&feature=related

ad: it's the kind of speech young people should show their parents


I wonder if the ability to hold amazing speeches is a genetical thing. I'm getting goosebumps whenever I hear a Kennedy speak.


Kennedy is a fucking murderer so being endorsed by him could be a double edged sword.


hes not a murderer...he just failed to save someone's life and spent a couple months in jail for it.

He is by far the most respected and revered democrat. So, no, its not a double edge sword, its a huge fucking deal.
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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-29 23:45:08
January 29 2008 23:39 GMT
#195
On January 29 2008 23:46 Hawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2008 13:13 triangle wrote:

And that thing on Hillary is so pathetic. Voting based on gender is stupid.


Voting on anything other that the quality of the candidate himself and his ideals is not just stupid, it's fucking retarded and you should be castrated. People who vote based on religion, gender or race make me fucking sick.


How is religion not part of the quality and ideals of a candidate?
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Rev0lution
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1805 Posts
January 29 2008 23:48 GMT
#196
On January 30 2008 08:39 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2008 23:46 Hawk wrote:
On January 29 2008 13:13 triangle wrote:

And that thing on Hillary is so pathetic. Voting based on gender is stupid.


Voting on anything other that the quality of the candidate himself and his ideals is not just stupid, it's fucking retarded and you should be castrated. People who vote based on religion, gender or race make me fucking sick.


How is religion not part of the quality and ideals of a candidate?


ah, come on. Its not like Mitt Romney is some batshit crazy mormon who wants to nuke Iran.

I can't speak for huckabee after his "lets amend the constitution so it reflects Leviticus part of the bible" but romney is OK. I'll be honest, I'm not too keen on the mormon faith but I would still vote for romney If i was a republican.
My dealer is my best friend, and we don't even chill.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
January 29 2008 23:48 GMT
#197
On January 30 2008 08:39 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2008 23:46 Hawk wrote:
On January 29 2008 13:13 triangle wrote:

And that thing on Hillary is so pathetic. Voting based on gender is stupid.


Voting on anything other that the quality of the candidate himself and his ideals is not just stupid, it's fucking retarded and you should be castrated. People who vote based on religion, gender or race make me fucking sick.


How is religion not part of the quality and ideals of a candidate?



How is it? Me being Protestant (on paper) doesn't influence my moral and values at all. An atheist can have the same political aims as a faithful catholic, don't you think?
gwho
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States632 Posts
January 30 2008 00:27 GMT
#198
HEY MAN! you need to add RON PAUL to that poll, buddy. don't just go along with the mainstreammedia censorship. The Constitution FTW!

btw, have you all seen the financial worth of these candidates? I was reading through money magazine, and most candidates have about 50million in assets. with the exception of obama, who barely has 1million. but still.. comon thats still a shitload. But my biggest surprise (and disgust) was Mitt Romney. 200million! albiet he is a businessman, it's rather sickening to my idea of democracy and the mudded politics that Romney is winning by such a big margin in the early times. I mean.. this guy didn't even start his campaign when everyone else was. He was like, "ohh why not start in feburary next year" even if he was joking, his actions say otherwise. Is that the attitude of someone who really wants to better this country or someone who's just going to use the office and leverage that position of power for more money and who knows what other devious schemes. We saw Bush the elite of the elite oilman fuck up our economy as well as fuck up a whole nation. Hilary isn't so clean of strings either. in fact most candidates represent the wealthy and elitist interests. As i know it, only Ron Paul is the one who doesn't give in to elitist buisness ties, the only one who actually believes and wants to obey the constitution. The source of funds says a lot; endorsement money that wants something in return for most of these generalizing, twofaced, constitution shreding agents of corporations, compard to 6 million in one day donations from people across the nation. ill admit my point of view is not unbiased, but let me ask, who does that? politicians these days would never dare to do what ron paul did: running on true constitutionalism with no corporate interests and trusting the people to fund them. No, you must first get rich by snobbing with the wealthy, and then serve their interests in office. Anyways, im pretty disgusted with America. I am now discovering how enslaved we are, even compared to Communist China. America has so many do's and don'ts... we pay almost half of our income to the government, you can't even bulid a house on a piece of land you buy with regulations after regulations and expensive requirements. and thanks to bush, the fbi can just take you away, torture you, and convict you without a lawyer or trial. If they fucking say you're a terrorist, you're a fucking terrorsit. While we ignorantly sing "land of the free and home of the brave", we in reality are the land of the weak and home of the slave" Our problems arise becaues we deviate from the constitution. banking, overtaxing, foreign entaglements. The constitution is the answer, and the only one backing that up right now is Ron Paul.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 30 2008 00:30 GMT
#199
I'm pretty sure this entire forum can agree that Ron Paul is pretty much out of the race.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-30 01:01:43
January 30 2008 01:00 GMT
#200
On January 30 2008 08:48 Mandalor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2008 08:39 Mindcrime wrote:
On January 29 2008 23:46 Hawk wrote:
On January 29 2008 13:13 triangle wrote:

And that thing on Hillary is so pathetic. Voting based on gender is stupid.


Voting on anything other that the quality of the candidate himself and his ideals is not just stupid, it's fucking retarded and you should be castrated. People who vote based on religion, gender or race make me fucking sick.


How is religion not part of the quality and ideals of a candidate?



How is it? Me being Protestant (on paper) doesn't influence my moral and values at all. An atheist can have the same political aims as a faithful catholic, don't you think?


It's not labels I'm concerned with, but rather the actual religious views.

Take Pat Robertson for example. He ran for president in '88. I don't care what he calls himself, but I do care about the fact that he believes "the rapture" is imminent. Why? Because such a belief impacts what sort of decisions he's going to make in office. "The environment? Who gives a fuck, the rapture is coming."
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
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