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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
August 24 2007 12:30 GMT
#1
I always wondered what staff members like EvilTeleTubby and Xal)Cyric and others actually did at the site. So ya, if any staff members feel like writing what they do at TL during their normal "work day" that would be cool. I'd like to know what it takes to keep this place running.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5281 Posts
August 24 2007 12:37 GMT
#2
if the site works you don't ask why, you just say thanks.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-24 12:43:26
August 24 2007 12:39 GMT
#3
And why not?...but sure I'll say thanks. Thanks. Still don't see whats wrong with asking why. Damn Romanians, always censoring me
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5281 Posts
August 24 2007 12:41 GMT
#4
On August 24 2007 21:39 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
And why not?...but sure I'll say thanks. Thanks. Still don't see whats wrong with asking why. Damn romanians...

;d
it's not wrong to ask why, it's wrong to aspect answers.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
August 24 2007 12:43 GMT
#5
Meat and saro do site administration
most of the other mods just moderate the forums. closing topics as needed, giving warnings to people, banning as needed
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
August 24 2007 12:47 GMT
#6
--- Nuked ---
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
August 24 2007 12:48 GMT
#7
Might've worked better in the website feedback forum. I don't think it's possible to describe all the efforts put in by every staff member here without them posting details about themselves and each other. But seeing as how most are too humble, we shouldn't expect that.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Cpt Obvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany3073 Posts
August 24 2007 12:50 GMT
#8
Beyonder posts random crap, the rest just keeps him in check and flames him for it in their secret mod forum.
Nobody ever reads signatures of people like me, do they?
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
August 24 2007 12:50 GMT
#9
hmm i'm actualyl quite interested toooo
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
August 24 2007 12:51 GMT
#10
The blue lettered folk are puppets and the red colored folk are the puppet masters.

We dance at their will.
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
August 24 2007 12:56 GMT
#11
Make pointed jokes at Jathin's expense on IRC to the amusement of everyone else
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-24 13:00:13
August 24 2007 12:58 GMT
#12
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HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-24 13:01:49
August 24 2007 13:01 GMT
#13
On August 24 2007 21:37 xM(Z wrote:
if the site works you don't ask why, you just say thanks.


Well then, let me phrase it more correctly.

I want to know exactly which Blue/Red Lined diety to extend my thanks to! /;P. Bad jokes aside, it'd be nice if roles of staff could be outlined at some point (when the Staff actaully get the time to do it ofc and assuming they're willing). Tl.net has an excellent community, it'd be interesting to know where all the Staff sit in maintaining that.

Nevertheless, I think this probably belongs in another forum.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
August 24 2007 13:02 GMT
#14
I make topics.

Lots of them.

Lots of topics.
Moderator
L!MP
Profile Joined March 2003
Australia2067 Posts
August 24 2007 13:02 GMT
#15
site maintenance basically. moderation, tlpd, vod uploads, calendar updates, final edits, power rank, replay uploads, news posts, and so forth.
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
August 24 2007 13:06 GMT
#16
But seriously... I read threads and posts. And anyone who posts worse than me gets banned. That's basically where we draw the line.

Also, Carnac is my private German muppet. I created him, got him red letters, and now he serves and obeys.
Moderator
Cpt Obvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany3073 Posts
August 24 2007 13:08 GMT
#17
So why am I still here again, Bey?
Nobody ever reads signatures of people like me, do they?
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-24 13:10:38
August 24 2007 13:09 GMT
#18
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Cpt Obvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany3073 Posts
August 24 2007 13:11 GMT
#19
Oh what has the world come to, now I have to take shit from that Indian guy.
Nobody ever reads signatures of people like me, do they?
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-24 13:14:40
August 24 2007 13:11 GMT
#20
On August 24 2007 22:08 Cpt Obvious wrote:
So why am I still here again, Bey?


Teamliquid has close ties with the German government.

We take in the emotionally injured and resocialize them; through our guidance they - you - learn the ropes in an electronic society, thus preparing them - you - for rehabilitation in the outside world. Bit by bit one grows. It's a hard and emotional process, but for a small fee we proudly aid the German government.

GROW PSYDUCK, GROW

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[image loading]

"Shut up, Cpt_Obvious!"
Moderator
Cpt Obvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany3073 Posts
August 24 2007 13:13 GMT
#21
quack?
Nobody ever reads signatures of people like me, do they?
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
August 24 2007 13:15 GMT
#22
On August 24 2007 21:58 Jathin wrote:
Uhhh..

Beyonder flames people/posts stuff.
Mani bans people.
Rekrul bans people.
Carnac flames people/posts stuff.
Twisted ... argues with Strafe.
Nazgul plays poker and lurks.
Saro does NOTHING. EVER.
HotBid ... comes up with creative ways to piss inControl off, oh and Final Edits

Not true. Twisted bans people too.

And Naz murders innocent sig people.
Administrator
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
August 24 2007 13:16 GMT
#23
On August 24 2007 21:47 Jathin wrote:
FUCK etter

This one is true.
Administrator
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32051 Posts
August 24 2007 13:17 GMT
#24
On August 24 2007 22:15 SonuvBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2007 21:58 Jathin wrote:
Uhhh..

Beyonder flames people/posts stuff.
Mani bans people.
Rekrul bans people.
Carnac flames people/posts stuff.
Twisted ... argues with Strafe.
Nazgul plays poker and lurks.
Saro does NOTHING. EVER.
HotBid ... comes up with creative ways to piss inControl off, oh and Final Edits

Not true. Twisted bans people too.

And Naz murders innocent sig people.


I got banned by Twisted for a mom joke.

True story.
PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-25 06:48:50
August 24 2007 13:21 GMT
#25
For me personally, I was originally made Newsposter (Blue) for LiquiScoop, and Moderator (Red) for the ability to edit posts as I have to manage new FE articles. Somewhere between were a small number of previews/articles and Blizzcon coverage.

The large number of staff is due to the fact that not everyone is active at all times.

Meat and Naz are the admins that started the site.
Saro and more recently Pop do the technical nitty gritty stuff, Saro more with the website as Pop was focused on TLPD.
Mani is also an admin.
Inactive mods (people i haven't really seen post/moderate in a while): Arbiter[frolix], Legionnaire, mensrea, Twisted, uhjoo, Wax, X)Benny, TKWL.
Everyone else in red is an active or semi-active moderator, Klogon, ManaBlue, Carnac, Bey, Rekrul, Mani, ETT.

As for Newsposters, I'm not fully sure as to what everyone does. For the people I do know:

DJEtterStyle - Power Rank / ProGaming / TLFE
HnR)Insane - Ladder
jkillashark - Results & Standings Thread
KizZBG - Graphics
zxk3 (not technically staff) - Graphics
Pressure - Calendar
Pop - LiquiBet, TLPD
SonuvBob - TLPD
thedeadhaji - TLPD / ProGaming / TLFE
ManaBlue - ProGaming / TLFE
Hot_Bid - ProGaming / TLFE
GTR-2-Go - ProGaming
Live2Win - ProGaming
Mnm - WCG / Foreigner ProGaming
PuertoRican - WCG / Foreigner ProGaming

There's also a "Replay Uploader" status but it's more for MiR access I think?
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32051 Posts
August 24 2007 13:21 GMT
#26
On August 24 2007 22:21 Hot_Bid wrote:
For me personally, I was originally made Newsposter (Blue) for LiquiScoop,


BRING BACK LS!!!!!!!!!!
PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
Cpt Obvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany3073 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-24 13:26:19
August 24 2007 13:25 GMT
#27
See also: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50779

not exactly about Staff, but interesting and related anyway.
Nobody ever reads signatures of people like me, do they?
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-24 14:06:27
August 24 2007 14:04 GMT
#28
I'm pretty sure ManaBlue's job is to thank/compliment people.

(Some quotes truncated).

On August 18 2007 07:04 ManaBlue wrote:
Excellent article, with perfect timing. Your insight into players and their success is top notch. Nice work dude.

On August 18 2007 08:19 ManaBlue wrote:
Props for all the linking PAL-18!!!! Many thanks!

Holding it down for yakii. I like it.

On August 18 2007 10:07 ManaBlue wrote:
romad, you're te man. I remember watching this game live too.

Thank you.

On August 20 2007 01:00 ManaBlue wrote:
Many thanks for the finals VODs infinity21!

On August 20 2007 02:42 ManaBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2007 12:10 Pyrthas wrote:
On August 19 2007 11:53 ManaBlue wrote:
Well I'm glad to hear it's easy to do for you guys.

I, on the other hand, don't understand a lick of korean and I'm completely useless on that site. Needless to say, I'm lucky there are people out there like you.
In case it helps, I don't understand Korean at all, and this is what I do (which should work if you can display Korean text): follow this link from the first post in the thread. Use the TLPD (I used that thread with all the pro teams before TLPD showed up) to find the Korean name of one of the players in the match. ctrl-f for it. If you don't find it, go to page 2 (links to pages are on the bottom of that site) and repeat. Eventually, if there are any vods up, you'll find something. It'll be a link to a page like this (game 1 of sea vs free from last night). It embeds the video, and you can dl the video with the .wmv link on the right-hand side of the page. Copy that link if you want to post it here. If there are multiple videos for a single game, they'll all be there.

Of course, you run the risk of spoiling for yourself the number of games that were played, since the videos are listed from newest to oldest. But if you simply must have the vods, they're not completely impossible to find. With a little guesswork, you can usually find the right videos in the right order.


Thanks.

On August 20 2007 04:46 ManaBlue wrote:
Awesome info GTR and Bob.

Thanks guys.

On August 21 2007 07:20 ManaBlue wrote:
Thanks for the VOD links johannordholm!!

On August 22 2007 08:53 ManaBlue wrote:
Many thanks for the amateur starbattle games Sonuvbob!

On August 22 2007 08:59 ManaBlue wrote:
Thanks for the translation snowbird!

On August 21 2007 07:16 ManaBlue wrote:
Nice ass.


Those are from his last 50 posts. I may have missed a couple.

See his sig for the list of VOD uploaders.
Administrator
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
August 24 2007 14:09 GMT
#29
rekrul brings the banstick
that's all you need to know

actually twisted used to go on banning sprees too, what happened =/
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
August 24 2007 14:09 GMT
#30
i miss liquiscoop
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
August 24 2007 14:13 GMT
#31
On August 24 2007 23:09 pyrogenetix wrote:
i miss liquiscoop
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
August 24 2007 14:26 GMT
#32
As for TLPD staff:

PoP: All coding, general pimpness. 90% of the overall work.
SonuvBob: PoP's bitch and personal website feedback forum. (Basically a lot of little things from the end of March through its release. Now I mostly just slack off)
Haji, GTR: Adding new games since TLPD's release.
VioleTAK: Adding VOD links by the thousands.
KizzBG: Almost all graphics.
zxk3: The hot TLPD header on the right sidebar.

Taiche gave us the map pics/info, and I think Kennigit gave us some design ideas.
Administrator
Dknight
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States5223 Posts
August 24 2007 14:48 GMT
#33
Foreigner progaming.

Good one HB ^^
WGT<3. Former CL/NW head admin.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
August 24 2007 15:04 GMT
#34
On August 24 2007 23:04 SonuvBob wrote:
I'm pretty sure ManaBlue's job is to thank/compliment people.

(Some quotes truncated).

+ Show Spoiler [hide quotes] +
On August 18 2007 07:04 ManaBlue wrote:
Excellent article, with perfect timing. Your insight into players and their success is top notch. Nice work dude.

On August 18 2007 08:19 ManaBlue wrote:
Props for all the linking PAL-18!!!! Many thanks!

Holding it down for yakii. I like it.

On August 18 2007 10:07 ManaBlue wrote:
romad, you're te man. I remember watching this game live too.

Thank you.

On August 20 2007 01:00 ManaBlue wrote:
Many thanks for the finals VODs infinity21!

On August 20 2007 02:42 ManaBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2007 12:10 Pyrthas wrote:
On August 19 2007 11:53 ManaBlue wrote:
Well I'm glad to hear it's easy to do for you guys.

I, on the other hand, don't understand a lick of korean and I'm completely useless on that site. Needless to say, I'm lucky there are people out there like you.
In case it helps, I don't understand Korean at all, and this is what I do (which should work if you can display Korean text): follow this link from the first post in the thread. Use the TLPD (I used that thread with all the pro teams before TLPD showed up) to find the Korean name of one of the players in the match. ctrl-f for it. If you don't find it, go to page 2 (links to pages are on the bottom of that site) and repeat. Eventually, if there are any vods up, you'll find something. It'll be a link to a page like this (game 1 of sea vs free from last night). It embeds the video, and you can dl the video with the .wmv link on the right-hand side of the page. Copy that link if you want to post it here. If there are multiple videos for a single game, they'll all be there.

Of course, you run the risk of spoiling for yourself the number of games that were played, since the videos are listed from newest to oldest. But if you simply must have the vods, they're not completely impossible to find. With a little guesswork, you can usually find the right videos in the right order.


Thanks.

On August 20 2007 04:46 ManaBlue wrote:
Awesome info GTR and Bob.

Thanks guys.

On August 21 2007 07:20 ManaBlue wrote:
Thanks for the VOD links johannordholm!!

On August 22 2007 08:53 ManaBlue wrote:
Many thanks for the amateur starbattle games Sonuvbob!

On August 22 2007 08:59 ManaBlue wrote:
Thanks for the translation snowbird!

On August 21 2007 07:16 ManaBlue wrote:
Nice ass.


Those are from his last 50 posts. I may have missed a couple.

See his sig for the list of VOD uploaders.

Yeah ManaBlue keeps people who contribute to the site motivated with his endless thanks/compliments. It really fuels the contributors.
Official Entusman #21
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
August 24 2007 16:10 GMT
#35
On August 24 2007 22:21 Hot_Bid wrote:
As for Newsposters, I'm not fully sure as to what everyone does. For the people I do know:

HnR)Insane - Ladder


As in TLT? I thought he was promoted at first because he ran the bot in op tl-west - though that's seemed to go the way of TLT too :x
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-24 16:11:14
August 24 2007 16:11 GMT
#36
On August 24 2007 21:30 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
I always wondered what staff members like EvilTeleTubby and Xal)Cyric and others actually did at the site. So ya, if any staff members feel like writing what they do at TL during their normal "work day" that would be cool. I'd like to know what it takes to keep this place running.


Also, it's not like this is anyone's full-time job. This is all volunteer work

(well maybe haji)
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20019 Posts
August 24 2007 16:27 GMT
#37
On August 25 2007 01:10 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2007 22:21 Hot_Bid wrote:
As for Newsposters, I'm not fully sure as to what everyone does. For the people I do know:

HnR)Insane - Ladder


As in TLT? I thought he was promoted at first because he ran the bot in op tl-west - though that's seemed to go the way of TLT too :x


I havent seen that silly bastard in a while.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
August 24 2007 16:40 GMT
#38
Hahah i love how ManaBlue always adds a or a after every sentence

:D
Moderator<:3-/-<
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
August 24 2007 16:42 GMT
#39
On August 24 2007 22:11 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2007 22:08 Cpt Obvious wrote:
So why am I still here again, Bey?


Teamliquid has close ties with the German government.

We take in the emotionally injured and resocialize them; through our guidance they - you - learn the ropes in an electronic society, thus preparing them - you - for rehabilitation in the outside world. Bit by bit one grows. It's a hard and emotional process, but for a small fee we proudly aid the German government.

GROW PSYDUCK, GROW

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

"Shut up, Cpt_Obvious!"



PSY?






hahahah
Moderator<:3-/-<
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
August 24 2007 17:09 GMT
#40
On August 24 2007 21:58 Jathin wrote:
Uhhh..

Beyonder flames people/posts stuff.
Mani bans people.
Rekrul bans people.
Carnac flames people/posts stuff.
Twisted ... argues with Strafe.
Nazgul plays poker and lurks.
Saro does NOTHING. EVER.
HotBid ... comes up with creative ways to piss inControl off, oh and Final Edits


You are forgetting the evil monkeys....
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-24 17:39:00
August 24 2007 17:38 GMT
#41
RE: KBK Jeju Starcraft Master 2001 Foreigners Qualified ! - Mynock @ 2001-10-10 00:13:07

NTT, lol, the posts u make are hilarious, just as your reps, LOL :D

But U got the point, it's so obvious when somebody cheated, the stats clearly say it all, OMG, why is this shit happening?

A mynock post not
-Mynock'd

from the link to the other thread, and a link in the other thread @_@
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-24 17:43:06
August 24 2007 17:41 GMT
#42
On August 24 2007 22:21 Hot_Bid wrote:
The large number of staff is due to the fact that not everyone is active at all times.


Hot_Bid summed up the reason I was brought on board(as well as many of the other staff members roles). It was last summer, just over a year ago, when Saro noticed there wasn't a lot of coverage during certain hours, and he noticed I was an extremely active, helpful poster who seemed to understand the nuances of moderation on this site. I also happened to be from the USA, whereas most other moderators are from Europe/Asia, so I was active when many of them were not. Thus, I was promoted.

I tried my hand at a special project or two, but because of real life, I never seemed to be able to dedicate as much time to them as I wanted to (which is a piss poor excuse I know, given the full plate Mani has in his life, yet still does as much as he does for us all), so because I couldn't reliably commit myself to anything, I've stuck with just moderation for now. I don't post nearly as much as I did a year ago, but I'm on TL.net several times a day, every single day, so I still do what I was originally brought here to do.

There's also a "Replay Uploader" status but it's more for MiR access I think?


Pretty much, it's the lowest status you can be staff with... primarily given out just to have access to the MiR and such(for actual Team Liquid members, like Zephyr), or for actual replay uploaders (see paladinROMAD).
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
August 24 2007 17:47 GMT
#43
On August 25 2007 02:41 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
There's also a "Replay Uploader" status but it's more for MiR access I think?


Pretty much, it's the lowest status you can be staff with... primarily given out just to have access to the MiR and such(for actual Team Liquid members, like Zephyr), or for actual replay uploaders (see paladinROMAD).

Hahaha that reminds me of Ekii and his 4k replays.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
August 24 2007 18:20 GMT
#44
Oh dear god, Ekii.... why'd you even have to say his name?
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
August 24 2007 18:56 GMT
#45
--- Nuked ---
HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
August 24 2007 19:15 GMT
#46
'fuck etter' = ? (related to djetterstyle?)

Is this IRC garble?
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
August 24 2007 19:21 GMT
#47
On August 25 2007 03:56 dronebabo wrote:
isnt sonuvbob also in charge of the calendar? (i heard pressure slacks off)

its progamer holiday man!
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
August 24 2007 19:27 GMT
#48
PRESSURE IS THE REASON THERE ARE NO GAMES FOR TWO WEEKS.
Administrator
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
August 24 2007 19:30 GMT
#49
Oh I thought this thread was about "curious staff members".
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
August 24 2007 19:45 GMT
#50
On August 25 2007 04:30 mikeymoo wrote:
Oh I thought this thread was about "curious staff members".


Mora isn't on staff yet
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32051 Posts
August 24 2007 19:46 GMT
#51
On August 25 2007 04:45 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2007 04:30 mikeymoo wrote:
Oh I thought this thread was about "curious staff members".


Mora isn't on staff yet


I think he's beyond the curious stage? lol
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
August 24 2007 20:02 GMT
#52
On August 25 2007 04:46 Hawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2007 04:45 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On August 25 2007 04:30 mikeymoo wrote:
Oh I thought this thread was about "curious staff members".


Mora isn't on staff yet


I think he's beyond the curious stage? lol


yeah, mike was actually referring to Carnac

those germans are into anything
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32051 Posts
August 24 2007 20:09 GMT
#53
Oh I wouldn't doubt it. Talking dirty in their English-German accents

UND I PUT ZE GERBIL IN JOUR ARSE?
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rpf
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2705 Posts
August 24 2007 20:10 GMT
#54
On August 24 2007 22:09 Jathin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2007 22:08 Cpt Obvious wrote:
So why am I still here again, Bey?


SHUT UP NEO-RPF
rofl, you asshole
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XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
August 24 2007 20:47 GMT
#55
I do nothing. Nothing at all...
Moderator
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-24 20:54:18
August 24 2007 20:53 GMT
#56
They dont actually do anything. Theyre just here to give readers the impression that the site is under control and working, while the sole person who does the real behind-the-scene work is banned periodically to reinforce the staff's visage.
Moonlight Shadow
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
August 24 2007 21:18 GMT
#57
i do
your mom

!
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
August 24 2007 21:27 GMT
#58
Can I be a mod for a day just so I can see the MiR forums? I won't post anything I just wanna snoop around.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 24 2007 21:41 GMT
#59
lolol Charlie.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
August 24 2007 21:43 GMT
#60
And I'll ban NeoIllusions
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
August 24 2007 21:45 GMT
#61
and this
[image loading]

[image loading]
[/QUOTE]
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 24 2007 21:52 GMT
#62
pff, me > u ez
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51446 Posts
August 24 2007 21:54 GMT
#63
haha its funny that pressure wasn't mentioned at all in HB's post

he does literally nothing
Commentator
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
August 24 2007 21:57 GMT
#64
On August 25 2007 06:27 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Can I be a mod for a day just so I can see the MiR forums? I won't post anything I just wanna snoop around.


No.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
August 24 2007 22:26 GMT
#65
On August 25 2007 06:57 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2007 06:27 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Can I be a mod for a day just so I can see the MiR forums? I won't post anything I just wanna snoop around.


No.


[image loading]
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Cpt Obvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany3073 Posts
August 24 2007 22:31 GMT
#66
It's a circle, not a triangle, you witless retard.
Nobody ever reads signatures of people like me, do they?
Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
August 24 2007 22:40 GMT
#67
[image loading]


i see both.....?
XK ßubonic
Cpt Obvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany3073 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-24 22:43:59
August 24 2007 22:42 GMT
#68
Yeah but ETT is the red one, not the purple fagget.

He might be the biggest one, but rumor has it he was the submissive one taking it up the rear end all the time. Must have been fun times behind the stage.
Nobody ever reads signatures of people like me, do they?
oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2933 Posts
August 24 2007 23:04 GMT
#69
On August 24 2007 22:21 Hot_Bid wrote:
For me personally, I was originally made Newsposter (Blue) for LiquiScoop, and Moderator (Red) for the ability to edit posts as I have to manage new FE articles. Somewhere between were a small number of previews/articles and Blizzcon coverage.

The large number of staff is due to the fact that not everyone is active at all times.

Meat and Naz are the admins that started the site.
Saro and more recently Pop do the technical nitty gritty stuff, Saro more with the website as Pop was focused on TLPD.
Mani is also an admin.
Inactive mods (people i haven't really seen post/moderate in a while): Arbiter[frolix], Legionnaire, mensrea, Twisted, uhjoo, Wax, X)Benny, TKWL.
Everyone else in red is an active or semi-active moderator, Klogon, ManaBlue, Carnac, Bey, Rekrul, Mani, ETT.

As for Newsposters, I'm not fully sure as to what everyone does. For the people I do know:

DJEtterStyle - Power Rank / ProGaming / TLFE
HnR)Insane - Ladder
jkillashark - Results & Standings Thread
KizZBG - Graphics
zxk3 (not technically staff) - Graphics
Pressure - Calendar
Pop - TLPD
SonuvBob - TLPD
thedeadhaji - TLPD / ProGaming / TLFE
ManaBlue - ProGaming / TLFE
Hot_Bid - ProGaming / TLFE
GTR-2-Go - ProGaming
Live2Win - ProGaming
Mnm - WCG / Foreigner ProGaming
PuertoRican - WCG / Foreigner ProGaming

There's also a "Replay Uploader" status but it's more for MiR access I think?

Pop does Liquibet too right?
Fuck KeSPA.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
August 24 2007 23:13 GMT
#70
yeah
ModeratorHi! I'm a .signature *virus*! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-25 03:49:31
August 25 2007 03:49 GMT
#71
On August 25 2007 06:27 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Can I be a mod for a day just so I can see the MiR forums? I won't post anything I just wanna snoop around.


All you have to do is befriend a mod, invite him over, let him bring the booze - you supply the marijuana... and BAM! ACCESS TO MIR.

Thanks Mani
Happiness only real when shared.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
August 25 2007 03:52 GMT
#72
On August 25 2007 07:42 Cpt Obvious wrote:
Yeah but ETT is the red one, not the purple fagget.

He might be the biggest one, but rumor has it he was the submissive one taking it up the rear end all the time. Must have been fun times behind the stage.


why you know that the red one has the circle w/o googling the teletubbies is beyond me
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-25 03:54:23
August 25 2007 03:54 GMT
#73
On August 25 2007 12:52 KOFgokuon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2007 07:42 Cpt Obvious wrote:
Yeah but ETT is the red one, not the purple fagget.

He might be the biggest one, but rumor has it he was the submissive one taking it up the rear end all the time. Must have been fun times behind the stage.


why you know that the red one has the circle w/o googling the teletubbies is beyond me

Maybe because ETT's pic also has the circle?

Power of observation. Superior.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-25 04:04:58
August 25 2007 04:02 GMT
#74
I always wondered, was this site coded from scratch? Cause its really well put together, seems like a lot of work.

Also, where does the money come from to keep it running? Bandwidth/salaries?
Do you really want chat rooms?
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27148 Posts
August 25 2007 04:07 GMT
#75
On August 25 2007 12:49 Mora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2007 06:27 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Can I be a mod for a day just so I can see the MiR forums? I won't post anything I just wanna snoop around.


All you have to do is befriend a mod, invite him over, let him bring the booze - you supply the marijuana... and BAM! ACCESS TO MIR.

Thanks Mani


No idea what you are talking about. *cough*
ModeratorGodfather
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27148 Posts
August 25 2007 04:08 GMT
#76
On August 25 2007 13:02 fight_or_flight wrote:
I always wondered, was this site coded from scratch? Cause its really well put together, seems like a lot of work.

Also, where does the money come from to keep it running? Bandwidth/salaries?


It was coded from scratch by Meat, and has had constant upgrades since then. There are no salaries for anyone. The google ads at the top pay for the site.
ModeratorGodfather
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27148 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-25 08:53:50
August 25 2007 06:39 GMT
#77
Admins - people who make decisions and improve what you see.

Meat - Original coder and founder.
Nazgul - Founder and site pimp.
Saro - Writes code to upgrade the site, brainstorms a million ideas.
PoP - Writes code to upgrade the site, his biggest projects have been the TLPD and the calender.
Manifesto7 - General manager, tries to initiate big projects, fails miserably.

Moderators - people who keep the forum clean of filth, and make this a great place.

Arbiter - One of the greatest report writers ever, he was a professional journalist and now lives in England working on his doctorate. Now inactive.
Beyonder - Somewhat crazy, always entertaining, boss of the IRC.
Carnac - Takes up projects such as the proleague thread and news writing.
EvilTeletubby - Guards the site from the American time zone.
Hot_Bid - Innovator of site features, specifically blogs, final edits, and liquiscoop.
Klogon - Super manner moderator.
Legionnaire - AUS #1 gamer, was a window to Korea for a long time. Now inactive.
Liquid`Drone - Original Liquid member. Staff consciousness.
ManaBlue - Leader of the writing team, organizes much of the news coverage.
mensrea - Original news writer, one of the best ever when video was not an option. Now inactive.
Rekrul - Moderator and random hurricane.
ToKoreaWithLove - Old old school news writer from before TeamLiquid. Wrote lots of reports and is now in school. Now inactive.
Twisted - Another Dutchman, moderates the forum.
uhjoo - Came to the site after I met him in SanFran WCG, 2004. Worked on connecting TL to the Korean scene. Now inactive.
WaxAngel - Original site writer, wrote news reports along with mensrea in the days before video. Was MIA for a long time, has recently returned (I hope).
X)Benny - In charge of the articles section. Now inactive.
Xal)CyRiC - Moderates the forums, doesnt say hello at Blizzcon.

News - these people create the content that you see.

Bill307 - Wrote reports for the no defunct iTV league. Does anything we need with maps.
DJEtterStyle - Writes the Power Ranking and news previews.
FireBlast! - A Korean speaker who brings news from the Korean scene. Now inactive.
GTR-2-Go - Covers the minor leagues, works on the TLPD, contributes to the articles section, and takes up projects of his own initiative.
HnR)Insane - Brought on to work on TLT. Now inactive.
jkillashark - Works on Results and Standings threads, helps maintain the articles section.
KizZBG - Works on graphics and banners for the site.
Live2Win - Brings us news from Korea, writes news reports, and uploads VODs.
mnm - Produced the TL Gallery, provides news on WCG.
Mynock - Interviewer for TL. Now inactive.
Pressure - Updates the calendar.
PuertoRican - Brought us GGL news. Now inactive.
SonuvBob - Bob helps PoP with the TLPD, and apparently has memorized every post ever on TL.
thedeadhaji - Haji was brought aboard in the Alpha phase of the TLPD, and now writes news and supplies VODs to the masses.

Replay - These people are staff for a variety of reasons, with this being the lowest level

(paladin)roMAD - Is our current active replay master. Finds great games.
Emlary - The goddess of TL who helped construct the first VOD thread which provided video to the masses. Now inactive.
GroT - Former moderator and liquibition organizer. Now inactive.
Liquid`Crystal - Liquid clan member. Now inactive.
Liquid`Daaman - Liquid clan member. Now inactive.
Liquid`RaSZi - Liquid clan member. Now inactive.
Liquid`Spy - Liquid clan member. Now inactive.
Liquid`Zephyr - Liquid clan member.
ret - Replay uploader. Now inactive.
TL.net Bot - Heartbreaker.
ToT)Midian( - Former replay uploader, and strategy forum expert. Now inactive.
travis - Tournament organizer. Now inactive.
VioleTAK - VOD uploader to youtube for the TLPD

That took forever to write out, so I hope it answered your questions.
ModeratorGodfather
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
August 25 2007 07:50 GMT
#78
Just one more thing I have to know.....do you really write communist documents in your spare time?
[image loading]
??
Do you really want chat rooms?
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-25 07:55:24
August 25 2007 07:55 GMT
#79
TL.net Bot - Heatbreaker.

Heartbreaker*

And I can still feel HonestTea's pain T_T;;
posting on liquid sites in current year
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51446 Posts
August 25 2007 08:03 GMT
#80
We need a sticky in the general forum with Mani's excellent post to tell us who does what etc :D
Commentator
mnm
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States4493 Posts
August 25 2007 09:01 GMT
#81
i like to take pictures of u ppl n post it up. i also like to bug tl ppl when im bored at work. yup thats what i do. but its ok cuz ppl like to bug me too.
http://www.teamliquid.net/store http://www.teamliquid.net/gallery/
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
August 25 2007 09:03 GMT
#82
On August 25 2007 17:03 GTR-2-Go wrote:
We need a sticky in the general forum with Mani's excellent post to tell us who does what etc :D


hurrah!
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
August 25 2007 09:47 GMT
#83
oh i miss uhjoo
Moonlight Shadow
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27148 Posts
August 25 2007 13:17 GMT
#84
On August 25 2007 18:47 useless wrote:
oh i miss uhjoo


he had a tight body
ModeratorGodfather
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
August 25 2007 13:23 GMT
#85
that's uh... disturbing
*looks other way*
Storchen
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden4385 Posts
August 25 2007 13:43 GMT
#86
Really nice post Mani.
Are there a member of the site that has an icon that looks like the front of Parthenon or Jefferson Memorial (or something like that) or have I just dreamt that?
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
August 25 2007 13:52 GMT
#87
On August 25 2007 22:17 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2007 18:47 useless wrote:
oh i miss uhjoo


he had a tight body


you have a tight body
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
August 25 2007 14:13 GMT
#88
http://tinyurl.com/3y2yvg


Background information on TL and its staff
Moderator
fanta[Rn]
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Japan2465 Posts
August 25 2007 14:14 GMT
#89
I love the background info on Rekrul there! :O Ty for the link
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-25 14:16:30
August 25 2007 14:14 GMT
#90
bey this is amazing background info
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +

you are pure evil =(
Cpt Obvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany3073 Posts
August 25 2007 14:14 GMT
#91
I totally forgot about that one. Thanks Beyonder.
Nobody ever reads signatures of people like me, do they?
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
August 25 2007 14:15 GMT
#92
On August 25 2007 23:13 Beyonder wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/3y2yvg


Background information on TL and its staff


Hahahhaha... fuck you Bey, I'm at work and don't have access to task manager on this computer.... and my volume was all the way up.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
August 25 2007 14:16 GMT
#93
Holy shit, this is a goldmine of information.
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
August 25 2007 14:17 GMT
#94
bey i hate you
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
August 25 2007 14:17 GMT
#95
lol @ the pics of Rekruls former GF
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Masamune
Profile Joined January 2007
Canada3401 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-25 14:32:01
August 25 2007 14:21 GMT
#96
LMAO Beyonder. I almost spat my milk out reading ETT's response.

As soon as I clicked that link and my screen minimized, I thought to myself "Oh fuck...". Luckily I'm at home. I'm still waiting to send that to send that to my friends while we're in the library when I go back to university. >

I think I'd need something more visually noticeable and annoying. Sound won't help in the embarrassment factor if we're in the library.
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
August 25 2007 14:47 GMT
#97
On August 25 2007 23:15 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2007 23:13 Beyonder wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/3y2yvg


Background information on TL and its staff


Hahahhaha... fuck you Bey, I'm at work and don't have access to task manager on this computer.... and my volume was all the way up.


Hahhahaha
Moderator
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
August 25 2007 16:25 GMT
#98
On August 25 2007 06:54 GTR-2-Go wrote:
haha its funny that pressure wasn't mentioned at all in HB's post

he does literally nothing

wat
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-25 17:24:34
August 25 2007 17:23 GMT
#99
Pressure did the calendar for most of July, I did it for most of August. We take turns slacking.

Mani: Your posts are just so memorable :swoons:. Or maybe I'm good at searching. :p
Administrator
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
August 25 2007 18:37 GMT
#100
On August 26 2007 02:23 SonuvBob wrote:
Mani: Your posts are just so memorable :swoons:.


Yep yep. I especially liked his definition of Eri, only because of countless MiR debates that he participated in.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
August 25 2007 18:53 GMT
#101
Hey! I said hi at Blizzcon (just not to people I wasn't sure who they were...). Mani was actually the first I said hi to since he was the most easily recognizable
Moderator
Axsynthe
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States161 Posts
August 25 2007 19:15 GMT
#102
On August 25 2007 16:55 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:
Show nested quote +
TL.net Bot - Heatbreaker.

Heartbreaker*

And I can still feel HonestTea's pain T_T;;

I've been reading about this for quite awhile on past TL threads, but I'd like to know what happened
Any links?
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-25 19:47:49
August 25 2007 19:46 GMT
#103
On August 26 2007 04:15 Axsynthe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2007 16:55 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:
TL.net Bot - Heatbreaker.

Heartbreaker*

And I can still feel HonestTea's pain T_T;;

I've been reading about this for quite awhile on past TL threads, but I'd like to know what happened
Any links?

They were pretty epic threads by HonestTea:

First part:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=43358

Second part:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=43515
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Axsynthe
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States161 Posts
August 25 2007 20:56 GMT
#104
wow got owned the second time in a row.
that'll teach me about not checking links before clicking on them.

Damn me and my blind trust in humanity. Thanks, Hot_Bid.
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
August 25 2007 21:04 GMT
#105
God damnit Hot_bid and I liked you : (
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Axsynthe
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States161 Posts
August 25 2007 21:42 GMT
#106
Second part is "Not Enough Rights" btw.
How did this all start though? I mean OBVIOUSLY 'her' name was TL.net BOT.
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
June 26 2010 10:00 GMT
#107
Oh how this thread made me giggle
Moderator
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 26 2010 12:27 GMT
#108
On August 26 2007 04:46 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2007 04:15 Axsynthe wrote:
On August 25 2007 16:55 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:
TL.net Bot - Heatbreaker.

Heartbreaker*

And I can still feel HonestTea's pain T_T;;

I've been reading about this for quite awhile on past TL threads, but I'd like to know what happened
Any links?

They were pretty epic threads by HonestTea:

First part:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=43358

Second part:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=43515

Those threads are great!
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