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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-07 03:04:28
November 07 2018 02:54 GMT
#1461
The Rural vote in Texas is SUUUUUUPER not in yet.

Looking at where the vote hasn't been counted yet, Cruz has this. Easily.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12204 Posts
November 07 2018 03:15 GMT
#1462
Do you guys think that the vote from Florida on former felons will have an impact on future Florida elections?
No will to live, no wish to die
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
November 07 2018 03:21 GMT
#1463
Senate is pretty much majority R as of now - enough marginal races have been called.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 07 2018 03:27 GMT
#1464
My biggest disappointment tonight is that Menendez is still a senator. People can talk about Trump all they want, but Menendez is as dirty as they come, in many ways.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
November 07 2018 03:32 GMT
#1465
On November 07 2018 12:27 xDaunt wrote:
My biggest disappointment tonight is that Menendez is still a senator. People can talk about Trump all they want, but Menendez is as dirty as they come, in many ways.


The silence of the media about him was deafening. Imagine he got 1/10th the cover of Roy Moore.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23250 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-07 03:42:17
November 07 2018 03:41 GMT
#1466
On November 07 2018 12:15 Nebuchad wrote:
Do you guys think that the vote from Florida on former felons will have an impact on future Florida elections?


Perhaps a bit, but not until there's a party that motivates them to vote, which will be harder than motivating the people who choose not to vote instead of having a law that prevented them.

That's the simple problem with 538 and the pollsters. They built everything on models of "likely voters" that don't match reality.

Trump and Democrats successfully drove down turnout of traditional voters, problem is that Trump had a much better strategy to motivate new/non-voters. I don't think Democrats are going to get one so now we're just on the slow ride until Democrat voters stop blaming Republicans for their politicians losing and start blaming their politicians.
On November 07 2018 12:27 xDaunt wrote:
My biggest disappointment tonight is that Menendez is still a senator. People can talk about Trump all they want, but Menendez is as dirty as they come, in many ways.


Menendez is definitely dirty but you aren't seriously suggesting he's dirtier than Trump are you?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 07 2018 04:06 GMT
#1467
On November 07 2018 12:41 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2018 12:27 xDaunt wrote:
My biggest disappointment tonight is that Menendez is still a senator. People can talk about Trump all they want, but Menendez is as dirty as they come, in many ways.


Menendez is definitely dirty but you aren't seriously suggesting he's dirtier than Trump are you?

Absolutely I am. Menendez has not only been prosecuted for crimes, but he was tried to a hung jury. Note: he was not acquitted. And that's before we discuss his fucking of underage girls in other countries. Menendez is a legit shitstain on Capitol Hill. New Jersey should be ashamed.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23250 Posts
November 07 2018 04:14 GMT
#1468
On November 07 2018 13:06 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2018 12:41 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 07 2018 12:27 xDaunt wrote:
My biggest disappointment tonight is that Menendez is still a senator. People can talk about Trump all they want, but Menendez is as dirty as they come, in many ways.


Menendez is definitely dirty but you aren't seriously suggesting he's dirtier than Trump are you?

Absolutely I am. Menendez has not only been prosecuted for crimes, but he was tried to a hung jury. Note: he was not acquitted. And that's before we discuss his fucking of underage girls in other countries. Menendez is a legit shitstain on Capitol Hill. New Jersey should be ashamed.


I mean they both are shitstains on capital hill, you just like how one of them smells. It's not very different for Democrats and Menendez, both sides should be ashamed imo.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-07 04:28:51
November 07 2018 04:27 GMT
#1469
On November 07 2018 13:06 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2018 12:41 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 07 2018 12:27 xDaunt wrote:
My biggest disappointment tonight is that Menendez is still a senator. People can talk about Trump all they want, but Menendez is as dirty as they come, in many ways.


Menendez is definitely dirty but you aren't seriously suggesting he's dirtier than Trump are you?

Absolutely I am. Menendez has not only been prosecuted for crimes, but he was tried to a hung jury. Note: he was not acquitted. And that's before we discuss his fucking of underage girls in other countries. Menendez is a legit shitstain on Capitol Hill. New Jersey should be ashamed.


NYT story irrefutably proved tax fraud by Trump. He has expressed attraction to literal 10 year olds. His first wife accused him of rape under oath. He admitted to regular sexual assault. He has over a dozen accusers. He has expressed attraction to his daughter. He had unprotected sex with a porn star while his 4 month old son was at home with his wife. He hung out regularly with Jeffrey Epstein, and commented favorably on Epstein's predilection for young women.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 07 2018 04:41 GMT
#1470
On November 07 2018 13:27 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2018 13:06 xDaunt wrote:
On November 07 2018 12:41 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 07 2018 12:27 xDaunt wrote:
My biggest disappointment tonight is that Menendez is still a senator. People can talk about Trump all they want, but Menendez is as dirty as they come, in many ways.


Menendez is definitely dirty but you aren't seriously suggesting he's dirtier than Trump are you?

Absolutely I am. Menendez has not only been prosecuted for crimes, but he was tried to a hung jury. Note: he was not acquitted. And that's before we discuss his fucking of underage girls in other countries. Menendez is a legit shitstain on Capitol Hill. New Jersey should be ashamed.


NYT story irrefutably proved tax fraud by Trump. He has expressed attraction to literal 10 year olds. His first wife accused him of rape under oath. He admitted to regular sexual assault. He has over a dozen accusers. He has expressed attraction to his daughter. He had unprotected sex with a porn star while his 4 month old son was at home with his wife. He hung out regularly with Jeffrey Epstein, and commented favorably on Epstein's predilection for young women.

Let me reiterate: Trump has not been prosecuted for anything. You probably should revisit your list and start crossing stuff off accordingly.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-07 04:45:19
November 07 2018 04:44 GMT
#1471
On November 07 2018 12:27 xDaunt wrote:
My biggest disappointment tonight is that Menendez is still a senator. People can talk about Trump all they want, but Menendez is as dirty as they come, in many ways.

New Jersey is a shithole. It's not surprising the Dems voted in their Roy Moore. They're ok with foreign underage hookers as long as it isn't plastered all over the news.

One of his jurors cheering and taking photographs with Menendez at his election night party was an excellent New Jersey touch.

The Senate was easy, and it's a good reminder that Trump and Republicans will get their originalists through in the next two years. Thank God.
O'Rourke and Gillum (and likely Abrams) losing is good news for the Republic.
I really wish Republicans could've held the House. Oh well. We'll fight harder next time. Bring on the subpoenas and investigations and impeachments!

Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23250 Posts
November 07 2018 04:48 GMT
#1472
On November 07 2018 13:41 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2018 13:27 Doodsmack wrote:
On November 07 2018 13:06 xDaunt wrote:
On November 07 2018 12:41 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 07 2018 12:27 xDaunt wrote:
My biggest disappointment tonight is that Menendez is still a senator. People can talk about Trump all they want, but Menendez is as dirty as they come, in many ways.


Menendez is definitely dirty but you aren't seriously suggesting he's dirtier than Trump are you?

Absolutely I am. Menendez has not only been prosecuted for crimes, but he was tried to a hung jury. Note: he was not acquitted. And that's before we discuss his fucking of underage girls in other countries. Menendez is a legit shitstain on Capitol Hill. New Jersey should be ashamed.


NYT story irrefutably proved tax fraud by Trump. He has expressed attraction to literal 10 year olds. His first wife accused him of rape under oath. He admitted to regular sexual assault. He has over a dozen accusers. He has expressed attraction to his daughter. He had unprotected sex with a porn star while his 4 month old son was at home with his wife. He hung out regularly with Jeffrey Epstein, and commented favorably on Epstein's predilection for young women.

Let me reiterate: Trump has not been prosecuted for anything. You probably should revisit your list and start crossing stuff off accordingly.


Hillary will be pleased with your "they weren't prosecuted" perspective. Turns out our justice system is pretty shitty at prosecuting wealthy and powerful people. They pretty much only get got when they get caught screwing over people more wealthy and/or powerful than them.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 07 2018 04:54 GMT
#1473
On November 07 2018 13:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2018 13:41 xDaunt wrote:
On November 07 2018 13:27 Doodsmack wrote:
On November 07 2018 13:06 xDaunt wrote:
On November 07 2018 12:41 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 07 2018 12:27 xDaunt wrote:
My biggest disappointment tonight is that Menendez is still a senator. People can talk about Trump all they want, but Menendez is as dirty as they come, in many ways.


Menendez is definitely dirty but you aren't seriously suggesting he's dirtier than Trump are you?

Absolutely I am. Menendez has not only been prosecuted for crimes, but he was tried to a hung jury. Note: he was not acquitted. And that's before we discuss his fucking of underage girls in other countries. Menendez is a legit shitstain on Capitol Hill. New Jersey should be ashamed.


NYT story irrefutably proved tax fraud by Trump. He has expressed attraction to literal 10 year olds. His first wife accused him of rape under oath. He admitted to regular sexual assault. He has over a dozen accusers. He has expressed attraction to his daughter. He had unprotected sex with a porn star while his 4 month old son was at home with his wife. He hung out regularly with Jeffrey Epstein, and commented favorably on Epstein's predilection for young women.

Let me reiterate: Trump has not been prosecuted for anything. You probably should revisit your list and start crossing stuff off accordingly.


Hillary will be pleased with your "they weren't prosecuted" perspective. Turns out our justice system is pretty shitty at prosecuting wealthy and powerful people. They pretty much only get got when they get caught screwing over people more wealthy and/or powerful than them.

There's a big difference between Hillary not being prosecuted for the email server thing due to political considerations in the run up to an election, and Trump not being prosecuted for stuff that is decades old not new when there were no political considerations.
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3188 Posts
November 07 2018 04:54 GMT
#1474
Is it too soon to talk about how 538's projections did? I haven't looked race by race, but it seems like they were pretty damn on point.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
November 07 2018 05:01 GMT
#1475
On November 07 2018 13:41 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2018 13:27 Doodsmack wrote:
On November 07 2018 13:06 xDaunt wrote:
On November 07 2018 12:41 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 07 2018 12:27 xDaunt wrote:
My biggest disappointment tonight is that Menendez is still a senator. People can talk about Trump all they want, but Menendez is as dirty as they come, in many ways.


Menendez is definitely dirty but you aren't seriously suggesting he's dirtier than Trump are you?

Absolutely I am. Menendez has not only been prosecuted for crimes, but he was tried to a hung jury. Note: he was not acquitted. And that's before we discuss his fucking of underage girls in other countries. Menendez is a legit shitstain on Capitol Hill. New Jersey should be ashamed.


NYT story irrefutably proved tax fraud by Trump. He has expressed attraction to literal 10 year olds. His first wife accused him of rape under oath. He admitted to regular sexual assault. He has over a dozen accusers. He has expressed attraction to his daughter. He had unprotected sex with a porn star while his 4 month old son was at home with his wife. He hung out regularly with Jeffrey Epstein, and commented favorably on Epstein's predilection for young women.

Let me reiterate: Trump has not been prosecuted for anything. You probably should revisit your list and start crossing stuff off accordingly.


We could name a lot of people who haven't been prosecuted, that's not a very compelling distinction here. Especially when you want to compare Trump to someone else on the basis of sexual impropriety.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23250 Posts
November 07 2018 05:04 GMT
#1476
On November 07 2018 13:54 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2018 13:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 07 2018 13:41 xDaunt wrote:
On November 07 2018 13:27 Doodsmack wrote:
On November 07 2018 13:06 xDaunt wrote:
On November 07 2018 12:41 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 07 2018 12:27 xDaunt wrote:
My biggest disappointment tonight is that Menendez is still a senator. People can talk about Trump all they want, but Menendez is as dirty as they come, in many ways.


Menendez is definitely dirty but you aren't seriously suggesting he's dirtier than Trump are you?

Absolutely I am. Menendez has not only been prosecuted for crimes, but he was tried to a hung jury. Note: he was not acquitted. And that's before we discuss his fucking of underage girls in other countries. Menendez is a legit shitstain on Capitol Hill. New Jersey should be ashamed.


NYT story irrefutably proved tax fraud by Trump. He has expressed attraction to literal 10 year olds. His first wife accused him of rape under oath. He admitted to regular sexual assault. He has over a dozen accusers. He has expressed attraction to his daughter. He had unprotected sex with a porn star while his 4 month old son was at home with his wife. He hung out regularly with Jeffrey Epstein, and commented favorably on Epstein's predilection for young women.

Let me reiterate: Trump has not been prosecuted for anything. You probably should revisit your list and start crossing stuff off accordingly.


Hillary will be pleased with your "they weren't prosecuted" perspective. Turns out our justice system is pretty shitty at prosecuting wealthy and powerful people. They pretty much only get got when they get caught screwing over people more wealthy and/or powerful than them.

There's a big difference between Hillary not being prosecuted for the email server thing due to political considerations in the run up to an election, and Trump not being prosecuted for stuff that is decades old not new when there were no political considerations.


Perhaps, but none of those political considerations were prosecuted either so I guess they're as clean as Trump in that regard too.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
November 07 2018 05:55 GMT
#1477
If I'm reading this correctly, every red-state Dem Senator that didn't back Kavanaugh lost. Manchin squeaks by, having voted for Kavanaugh as a Democrat.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
November 07 2018 12:17 GMT
#1478
Election results seem sort of boring really. Everyone everybody thought would win, won, all of the interesting races turned up the expected way, the Dems got what everyone expected and so did the Republicans.

Now we'll have to see how the split house/senate affects Trump's agenda, if at all.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23250 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-07 12:43:23
November 07 2018 12:36 GMT
#1479
On November 07 2018 21:17 iamthedave wrote:
Election results seem sort of boring really. Everyone everybody thought would win, won, all of the interesting races turned up the expected way, the Dems got what everyone expected and so did the Republicans.

Now we'll have to see how the split house/senate affects Trump's agenda, if at all.


Best I could tell looking over the votes, the only legislation jeopordized by the small majority Democrats won would have been his tax legislation. But that was inevitble because of the repatriation aspect.

Basically you're looking at the same agenda with some more pork/compromises to get enough Democrats to pass it and pretty much anything that makes it out of the house is sure to pass the Senate less it be too favorable toward Democrats.

I was also looking over the senate races for 2020 and I have no idea (besides the number of them for each side) why Democrats think they have any shot at a majority or even winning more than a seat or two.

Oh but now Trump will blame everything wrong with the country on a result of the House being a waste of space, and he'll be wrong about problems being their fault but right about them being a waste of space so that'll probably be enough to get him a second term and both houses.

Particularly with Democrats looking to be clinging on to their "have you seen the other guys" strategy.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-07 15:43:09
November 07 2018 15:39 GMT
#1480
On November 07 2018 21:36 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2018 21:17 iamthedave wrote:
Election results seem sort of boring really. Everyone everybody thought would win, won, all of the interesting races turned up the expected way, the Dems got what everyone expected and so did the Republicans.

Now we'll have to see how the split house/senate affects Trump's agenda, if at all.


Best I could tell looking over the votes, the only legislation jeopordized by the small majority Democrats won would have been his tax legislation. But that was inevitble because of the repatriation aspect.

Basically you're looking at the same agenda with some more pork/compromises to get enough Democrats to pass it and pretty much anything that makes it out of the house is sure to pass the Senate less it be too favorable toward Democrats.

I was also looking over the senate races for 2020 and I have no idea (besides the number of them for each side) why Democrats think they have any shot at a majority or even winning more than a seat or two.

Oh but now Trump will blame everything wrong with the country on a result of the House being a waste of space, and he'll be wrong about problems being their fault but right about them being a waste of space so that'll probably be enough to get him a second term and both houses.

Particularly with Democrats looking to be clinging on to their "have you seen the other guys" strategy.


I think you are spot on politically speaking. Right wing pundits saying Trump hammering on the house blaming them for everything, while winning all key senatorial races, sets him up pretty nicely for 2020.

Also, this is some 3d-chess level trolling: (I'll put in spoilers, if someone can embed it aswell great)

+ Show Spoiler +
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1060162807960870913

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