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Oh yesss, that would so epically pwn, it's hard to even comprehend! Saro to the rescue please!
PS.: On topic: I kinda feel left out and mistreated/ignored because I never get called a cracker or honky or whatever... I want niggers to call me honky :/ Same case as with Ready2 here, basically no black people around, so nobody possibly to be offended either...
ROFL, I just found this on god old Wiki:
"Honky was later adopted as a pejorative meaning white in 1967 by black militants within SNCC seeking a rebuttal for the term nigger. They settled on a familiar word they felt was disparaging to certain Americans of European descent; hunkie meaning an American of Slavic or Hungarian descent."
So while Hungarian people didn't do anything worthy to have to redeem themselves for to the black community, the blacks just started randomly calling them names! Ready2! Feel free to call black people niggers from now on, on the just basis of taking righteous payback for the derogatory flames your ancestors had to endure in the past!
LOL, this whole racial sensitivity issue cracks me up so much, guess that makes me a cracker! :p
-Mynock
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
I fear Moltke may leave us if we do this to him 
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my friend sent me this on an email, discuss
Why is it that only whites can be racists?
Body: you call me "redneck" ,"hillbilly", "slaker" , "Cracker", "Honkey", "Whitey", "Gringo" and you think it's OK.
...But If Iwere to call you coon,jiggaboo, Kike, sand nigger, rag head ,Towelhead, WOP, Camel Jockey, Gook, nigger, slant eyes or Chink you call me a racist.
-You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
-You have the United Negro College Fund.
-You have Martin Luther King Day.
-You have Black History Month.
-You have Cesar Chavez Day.
-You have Yom Hashoah
-You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi
-You have the NAACP.
-You have BET.
-If we had WET(white entertainment television) ...we'd be racist.
-If we had a White Pride Day... you would call us racist.
-If we had white history month... we'd be racist.
-If we had an organization for only whites to "advance" our lives... we'd be racist.
-If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships...you know we'd be racist.
-In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights...you would call us racist.
-Did you know that some high school students decided to make a club for only the white students because the other ethnicities had them... they all got sent to court for being racist but the african-american, Latino, and Asia clubs were not even questioned.
-You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.
I am white.
I am proud.
But, you call me a racist.
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The problem, in my opinion, is that the minorities and the majority have to be (common consensus, not necessarily so) treated differently.
In said scenarios where we have for example a "White Pride Day" or whatever, it is only a small step (or several steps, I don't want to argue about specifics here) towards the exclusion of minorities from major social activities.
Scenario: Shuttle busses from the parking lot to a White Pride Parade scene would be for whites only, see the analogy?
I know this is highly constructed and theoretical, but you get the point. There is a background to this whole theme and the have been problems which have been adressed. Let's not take a step back in social development.
We have to accept that we are inherently and by definition NOT equal, some might even argue caucasian's in America are even underprivileged in some cases, compared to their afro-american fellow citizens. Now what? Turn it all around until we are back in the days of KKK and whites-only? Please not. Minorities have to be protected both by law and society as a whole. There is no such thing as "perfect balance" or "equilibrium" here. Get along or get out.
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my friend sent me this on an email, discuss
I'll address this to the person writing by using "you" without really referring to you, as you benignly posted it.
Why is it that only whites can be racists?
Body: you call me "redneck" ,"hillbilly", "slaker" , "Cracker", "Honkey", "Whitey", "Gringo" and you think it's OK.
...But If Iwere to call you coon,jiggaboo, Kike, sand nigger, rag head ,Towelhead, WOP, Camel Jockey, Gook, nigger, slant eyes or Chink you call me a racist.
Because whites are the dominant racial group at least in North American culture. Non-dominant groups can be prejudiced and wrongly insulting on the basis of race, but because they are not doing so from a position of undeniable power (as when whites use the words listed above in a racist manner) they aren't what we mean when we say racist. In other words, the author of this question is just confused about what racism is.
-You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
I don't know who you've been talking to, but racial violence isn't a key issue today in the way you're describing it. There still are issues related to it, like white police officers abusing black populations in lots of America at least, but there isn't really widespread KKK style violence any more (though it does still exist sometimes), at least since the ending of the lynching genocide. Whites have committed unspeakable violence to black people historically, however, so maybe this is where you're getting confused. The ghettos are the most dangerous places to live because of the intense poverty concentrated there and the resulting desperation and subsequent money-related crime (ie. muggings).
Also, just so you know, "ghetto" doesn't mean the place where black people live. It means where poor people live in bad conditions. It just happens that because of slavery, post-slavery lack of educational opportunities resulting in black culture being behind educationally, institutional racism and slavery-era eugenics that those areas in America are often heavily black.
-You have the United Negro College Fund.
You have generations of legacy acceptances, and a store of wealth and power built on the backs of slaves to spend on education.
-You have Martin Luther King Day.
You have Presidents day.
-You have Black History Month.
You have eleven White History Months.
-You have Cesar Chavez Day.
Huh? When is that? It would be great if Cesar Chavez did have a day, but I don't know that this is very widespread. Even if it is, what's your point? That some non-white people have days honoring them? Besides, you have Columbus day.
-You have Yom Hashoah
Huh? Who has it? It's a national holiday in Israel to remember the holocaust. Do you really think that's inappropriate?
-You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi
Oh no, Muslims have a holiday celebrating the birth of their prophet? You have Christmas, Easter, etc. Again, I don't understand this holiday business. White people have "possession" in the sense you're describing of so many more holidays, and, in fact, the very calendar that they exist on. This whole discussion is bogus. We ALL have MLK day, Yom Hashoah etc.; they are days for the WORLD to remember important things. MLK was an important PERSON, not just an important black person. The holocaust OBVIOUSLY was not just a problem for Jews, it was a problem for the entire human species.
-You have the NAACP.
You the government of the United States.
-You have BET.
You have virtually all of cable and every network on television.
-If we had WET(white entertainment television) ...we'd be racist.
Again, most TV is WET. That would be like having an Chinese Food restaurant in China.
-If we had a White Pride Day... you would call us racist.
That's because you are the dominant group within the culture. I guess you're referring to gay pride, but anyway, pride days are usually expressions of pride as a form of resistance, being proud about something that is subordinated or looked down upon as a way of saying that it shouldn't be. Anyway, people would call you racist if you had White Pride Day because it would be an obvious reaction against other pride days (or whatever it is you think you're referring to) rather than an honest expression of pride (which seems pretty impossible, considering being white doesn't really entail anything to be proud about. I guess you could be proud that you had enough technology to force black people to work for you, but that seems like not such a good thing to be proud about.
-If we had white history month... we'd be racist.
Again, every month is white history month.
-If we had an organization for only whites to "advance" our lives... we'd be racist.
You have thousands of organizations to do that. What's the fortune 500? What's the lobbying industry? What'srepublican national committee?
-If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships...you know we'd be racist.
That's because white people aren't underprivileged. Black people need extra scholarships because there is a huge gap in the amount of scholarships black people are able to get. An analogy I've used before: giving black students scholarships is like cutting off a man's legs and then giving him a band aid and telling him to do his best. If there was a fund that gave white people scholarships, that would be like having a scholarship fund for rich people. It would be conspicuously unneeded, and therefor would resonate as a racist reaction to entirely appropriate black scholarship funds.
-In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights...you would call us racist.
You would be called racist because you would be mocking an important historical event. You have no need to march for your race or your rights, because you are dominant and have any rights you wish. This is just silly.
-Did you know that some high school students decided to make a club for only the white students because the other ethnicities had them... they all got sent to court for being racist but the african-american, Latino, and Asia clubs were not even questioned.
Again, the reason that seems racist is because there's no relevant shared experience to have a club about, so it appears to be a mocking reaction to affinity clubs. Asian Americans have a certain shared experience as Asian Americans that it can be helpful to talk about. What would you do in a white people club? Talk about how nice it is not to have to think about your race unless you want to? Think about how great it is that its so easy for you to get jobs, buy homes, get loans, blend in?
-You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.
You're racist because you are mimicking the defensive actions of disadvantaged minorities and thereby insulting them. What do you have to be proud of? You haven't survived hardship on the basis of your ethnicity. You haven't overcome anything. You've sat back and exploited.
I am white.
I am proud.
I am white. I'm fine with being white, but I think we have a lot of work to do to make things right in the arena of race relations. You, on the other hand, sound like a child or like Hitler.
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I doubt anyone here really supports that letter, though.
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hmm..i dont agree with you ^^
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Yea, maybe some people do. Perhaps I give tl.net too much credit.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
bine i am literally dumbfounded at how obtuse you are being with your responses there. almost all of what you said are canned responses crafted by radicals who are more racist than we are.
heres the fun part: i don't agree with the sentiments in that email
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FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
you frown upon people who don't agree with you?
why do you think you're qualified to talk about this with an attitude like that
FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
you are a massive faggot
crusade somewhere else you simple-minded shit
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On April 26 2007 16:11 bine wrote: Perhaps I give tl.net too much credit.
you frown upon people who don't agree with you?
why do you think you're qualified to talk about this with an attitude like that
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
Bine your logic is severely flawed in every arguement, stop being an idiot.
You're hereby banned from talking about racism on this forum. (thats a warning)edit: even tho i agree with u alot and your intentions are good, its just gunna start a flame war
Enjoy.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
By the way MAKITO and FakeSteve are fucking idiots.
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