How long do you let someone get away with something before enough is enough.
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berated-
United States1134 Posts
How long do you let someone get away with something before enough is enough. | ||
Y3ahright
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bine
United States2352 Posts
On March 21 2007 14:55 Kwark wrote: Not the case. There was no rulebreaking between the end of his last temp ban and his permanent ban. There was Beyonder getting pissed off with him and flaming him, there was Chibi responding maturely (only person to cite statistics in a thread full of opinions) and there was Beyonder banning him. But there was absolutely no rule breaking. Every rule he'd broken in the past he'd already served his time in Disneyland for. | ||
MyLittlePwny
Canada171 Posts
Tollerenace and acceptance are 2 different things. Appearnenlty for some reason today we are no longer toleratant of chibi's pedo views. It was tollerated for several years but today we've decided it will no longer have a place in this community. | ||
LuMiX
China5757 Posts
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berated-
United States1134 Posts
On March 21 2007 15:13 Metal[x] wrote: berated- why would you say this? : "And in my honest opinion, chibi doesn't give a fuck about anyone here because he couldn't change his actions to stay in the community. So why then do you care so much about him?" ...you said so yourself, you have been here for 6 months. Why do you think your able to tell everyone here that chibi doesn't care about anyone? You don't even know him... -_-;; Because if chibi seriously cared about the community he was in, then he would do anything in his power to stay in it. Or is that another one of my clearly unthought out reasonings? Edit: My figures are a little unclear. I have been reading the forums for about 4 yrs now, but only actively posting for 6 months. | ||
LuMiX
China5757 Posts
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bine
United States2352 Posts
On March 21 2007 15:16 bErAtEd- wrote: Because if chibi seriously cared about the community he was in, then he would do anything in his power to stay in it. Or is that another one of my clearly unthought out reasonings? Hence his long, intense responses to the allegations against him? It's not like he was banned 8 times for exactly the same thing and he just did it again and after that they banned him. Since his last temp ban, no one has been able to really show a trigger for permanently banning him. Who's to say he wasn't trying? Also, when there's a point of contention, sometimes people can both love a community and want to stay while refusing to back down on a certain point. I don't know the circumstances surrounding all of his bans, but the fact that he has been banned a bunch of times doesn't in and of itself prove anything. Regardless, after the seventh time, he was still allowed to come back. Why wasn't a line drawn there that is being drawn now? I'm not claiming to have any answers, as I probably have a comparable amount of information on the matter as you. But your reasoning is, nevertheless, thin. | ||
berated-
United States1134 Posts
On March 21 2007 15:21 Metal[x] wrote: You still don't know him... Plus, he didn't do anything wrong after his last temp ban. In all fairness of how a forum works, I don't believe that that decision is one that can be made by either you or I | ||
Sadir
Vatican City State1176 Posts
I also think that your comparison between the real-life and internet forum was kind of bad. Examples always change the real situation, but therefor help to understand the situation better. In this case I just had a real bad feeling, with your post, because it seems to me like really changing the facts alot. | ||
Y3ahright
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berated-
United States1134 Posts
On March 21 2007 15:23 bine wrote: Hence his long, intense responses to the allegations against him? It's not like he was banned 8 times for exactly the same thing and he just did it again and after that they banned him. Since his last temp ban, no one has been able to really show a trigger for permanently banning him. Who's to say he wasn't trying? Also, when there's a point of contention, sometimes people can both love a community and want to stay while refusing to back down on a certain point. I don't know the circumstances surrounding all of his bans, but the fact that he has been banned a bunch of times doesn't in and of itself prove anything. Regardless, after the seventh time, he was still allowed to come back. Why wasn't a line drawn there that is being drawn now? I'm not claiming to have any answers, as I probably have a comparable amount of information on the matter as you. But your reasoning is, nevertheless, thin. I don't doubt this and I thank you for not immediately flaming me... However I do believe that one can still be mature and stay within the bounds of what it socially acceptable while continuing to argue their point. | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On March 21 2007 14:14 {88}iNcontroL wrote: 4. People need to stop bringing up Mora. He is an adult. He has sex with consenting adults. Why is consent valued? The same reason we don't allow mentally handicapped people to drive city busses. They are impaired, or at least disadvantaged in making decisions that weigh in the full matter. Does that mean there are people mentally handicapped, fully capable of driving a city bus? Sure, absolutely. Can a 14 year old girl consent to sex and possibly understand that, in all its entirety? Yes, numbers are against her but sure. Homosexuallity IS abnormal. It IS different from the norm. But the issue is, do both parties understand the activity. We don't look at two 14 year old children having sex the same way we do a 14 year old and a 20 year old having sex. Want to know why? Because the two children are assumed to not know what they are doing, not understand it, and thus be safer from consequences. When an adult has sex with an underaged child it is presumed only the adult fully realized what was being done. The child is thus vulnerable this creates dangers. There are exceptions to all of these scenarios and examples, fact of the matter lies: MOST of the time it is safer to establish laws that avoid a situation altogether in which the risk of extreme harm is vastly more likely to occur than not. If Mora's massive cock rips a mans asshole open they are more likely to get the proper medical attention and become informed on safer practices. If a grown man rips a little girls vagina wide open she is MORE likely to not know or understand what needs to be done. Additionally, she (as society is constructed) is more likely to not say anything because she understands sex at her age to be a "no-no" especially with the person who would be classified as an adult. I can go on, but I think it is pretty easy to see the numerous occassions in which it is far better to be "safe-than sorry." Consent has nothing to do with why i brought up Mora | ||
bine
United States2352 Posts
MORA PLEASE DONT LEAVE ![]() | ||
DeadVessel
United States6269 Posts
On March 21 2007 15:24 bErAtEd- wrote: In all fairness of how a forum works, I don't believe that that decision is one that can be made by either you or I It wasn't a decision made by us, but it was brought to the community to be discussed which is what we are doing, in an intelligent way. Your post wasn't that way, you started bming a contributing member of both communities (LP.net and TL.net). | ||
Y3ahright
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berated-
United States1134 Posts
Ban or not this will be my last post on this forum and last day in this community. I don't care if people don't like my analysis of the situation or think that real life situations change what happens on an internet forum. In both situations one must simply ask themselves when enough is enough. The admins felt that they have had enough and now many of you are choosing to challenge it. Does the community complain every time that a person with a low post count who starts threads that many people think is stupid gets banned? Do people complain when someone is in here yelling homophobic comments and gets banned. Do all of you fight so passionally then? The politics on this forum far outweigh any benefits that might come along with posting on it. I was very excited when I found people to share my joy with the professional starcraft scene with. And now I see that in many ways this is no different than high school. Favorites are played and groups and clicks are formed. I have tried on numerous occasions to socialize with many of the people on this forum. In fact DeadVessel you and I had a chat in the IRC channel a couple days ago about some dead singer that I had never heard of. This forum is not very accepting of new comers which is a real shame because you have such a wonderful thing going here. | ||
DeadVessel
United States6269 Posts
On March 21 2007 15:43 Y3ahright wrote: It's been over 50 minutes Testie, and I'm kinda wondering why you are afk just right now. Is it your policy to insult and insinuate vs new users and then go afk ? people have lives, check back on the thread later. | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On March 21 2007 15:45 bErAtEd- wrote: In lieu of the recent events DeadVessel you get your wish. Ban or not this will be my last post on this forum and last day in this community. I don't care if people don't like my analysis of the situation or think that real life situations change what happens on an internet forum. In both situations one must simply ask themselves when enough is enough. The admins felt that they have had enough and now many of you are choosing to challenge it. Does the community complain every time that a person with a low post count who starts threads that many people think is stupid gets banned? Do people complain when someone is in here yelling homophobic comments and gets banned. Do all of you fight so passionally then? The politics on this forum far outweigh any benefits that might come along with posting on it. I was very excited when I found people to share my joy with the professional starcraft scene with. And now I see that in many ways this is no different than high school. Favorites are played and groups and clicks are formed. I have tried on numerous occasions to socialize with many of the people on this forum. In fact DeadVessel you and I had a chat in the IRC channel a couple days ago about some dead singer that I had never heard of. This forum is not very accepting of new comers which is a real shame because you have such a wonderful thing going here. be calm chibi was well-liked by a bunch of people here and when he was banned they wanted to know why, so this thread was promised. now its here, so now we talk about it. this isn't some all-encompassing thing on TL, its just... whats happening at this moment | ||
Y3ahright
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