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wishterran
Profile Joined February 2004
United States1045 Posts
December 30 2006 08:40 GMT
#81
On December 30 2006 17:37 -_- wrote:
Oh yeah, who else saw this post and said "awesome, some BW drama?" Something to get riled up about, something to feel righteously indignant about... oh what fun.


my thoughts EXACTLY. it's fun to watch people get mad at each other in these topics
AmorVincitOmnia
Profile Joined March 2005
Kenya3846 Posts
December 30 2006 08:41 GMT
#82
yeah but referees don't come up to players while their fucking playing and ask them questions.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 30 2006 08:45 GMT
#83
On December 30 2006 16:02 DarK]N[exuS wrote:
Sow what you reap Idra. Since I also think (and I know that many other people do as well) that you are one of the rudest "known" players, I don't think I even mind you getting fucked over due to your complete lack of maturity. You ALWAYS call other people "dumb, inferior," or "stupid." You ALWAYS act as if you are somehow intellectually superior when in reality you're some 16 year old brat who must be fucking spoiled rotten. You're turning into one of those players that when people hear they must play versus, they don't want to because it's such a bad experience. You remind me of that "black[light]" guy, only instead of being incoherent in your insults, you're hypocritical.


I wasn't gonna post in this thread until I read this. Dark]n[exus you have to understand the way you behave on this forum have pissed waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more people off than anyone else who hasn't gotten banned yet. You're in no position to comment on other people's "manner" from your contact with them through TL. In fact although I never carry grudges from TL to Battlenet, if I ever see you on west I will be more than happy to ignore you, it's just the way you carry yourself. You think everyone else is arrogant and annoying while you piss the shit out of people. If you act this way on the internet God only knows what kind of a person you actually are. Cheers
Cpt Obvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany3073 Posts
December 30 2006 08:46 GMT
#84
hey, are these Nike's? STFU, that's a field goal attempt mofo!!!111

that would be so awesome

now that "-_-" brought it up, why do we all give a sh** if we all dislike IdrA? is it the urge to do "the right thing" or is it just for the purpose of "verbally beating the crap out of each other"?
Nobody ever reads signatures of people like me, do they?
NuclearAntelope
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1369 Posts
December 30 2006 08:46 GMT
#85
On December 30 2006 17:32 Manifesto7 wrote:
You already posted this on GG.net, and it is their tourny. Why do you post it here other than to find support to comfort yourself?

You won the games, congrats. You should be able to move on in this tournament. However, if I were organizing any other tournaments in the BW community, I would be sure not to invite you. You are an arrogant fag who thinks that bw skill = all. Your lack of manner is embarassing, and was only made worse by your opponents class in this situation.

Enjoy your 50 bucks, because you just traded another chunk of your already inferior image for it.

I wonder whether gg.net would have let him play in the first place if they knew who the smurf was. The fragbet league he cheated in was connected with gg.net, so he should probably be disqualified from this tournament simply for that reason.
people are similar in nature. its the experience of life that makes them so different.
alphablend
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
647 Posts
December 30 2006 08:47 GMT
#86
On December 30 2006 17:32 Manifesto7 wrote:
You already posted this on GG.net, and it is their tourny. Why do you post it here other than to find support to comfort yourself?

You won the games, congrats. You should be able to move on in this tournament. However, if I were organizing any other tournaments in the BW community, I would be sure not to invite you. You are an arrogant fag who thinks that bw skill = all. Your lack of manner is embarassing, and was only made worse by your opponents class in this situation.

Enjoy your 50 bucks, because you just traded another chunk of your already inferior image for it.


He got $50? I thought he didn't get to advance, and didn't win any money?
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 30 2006 08:49 GMT
#87
On December 30 2006 17:46 NuclearAntelope wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2006 17:32 Manifesto7 wrote:
You already posted this on GG.net, and it is their tourny. Why do you post it here other than to find support to comfort yourself?

You won the games, congrats. You should be able to move on in this tournament. However, if I were organizing any other tournaments in the BW community, I would be sure not to invite you. You are an arrogant fag who thinks that bw skill = all. Your lack of manner is embarassing, and was only made worse by your opponents class in this situation.

Enjoy your 50 bucks, because you just traded another chunk of your already inferior image for it.

I wonder whether gg.net would have let him play in the first place if they knew who the smurf was. The fragbet league he cheated in was connected with gg.net, so he should probably be disqualified from this tournament simply for that reason.
i have played multiple gg.net tournies since then on my own name including placing high in a few of them(they were aware of me), they did not have a problem with me playing their tournaments.
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 30 2006 08:49 GMT
#88
On December 30 2006 17:47 alphablend wrote:


He got $50? I thought he didn't get to advance, and didn't win any money?

i didnt, as it stands leugim plays delicato in the finals and winner gets 50$.
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NuclearAntelope
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1369 Posts
December 30 2006 08:51 GMT
#89
oh I don't really follow their tournaments :[ that does surprise me though
people are similar in nature. its the experience of life that makes them so different.
alphablend
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
647 Posts
December 30 2006 08:51 GMT
#90
On December 30 2006 17:46 NuclearAntelope wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2006 17:32 Manifesto7 wrote:
You already posted this on GG.net, and it is their tourny. Why do you post it here other than to find support to comfort yourself?

You won the games, congrats. You should be able to move on in this tournament. However, if I were organizing any other tournaments in the BW community, I would be sure not to invite you. You are an arrogant fag who thinks that bw skill = all. Your lack of manner is embarassing, and was only made worse by your opponents class in this situation.

Enjoy your 50 bucks, because you just traded another chunk of your already inferior image for it.

I wonder whether gg.net would have let him play in the first place if they knew who the smurf was. The fragbet league he cheated in was connected with gg.net, so he should probably be disqualified from this tournament simply for that reason.


Could you elaborate on how he cheated in fragbet?
NuclearAntelope
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1369 Posts
December 30 2006 08:55 GMT
#91
On December 30 2006 17:51 alphablend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2006 17:46 NuclearAntelope wrote:
On December 30 2006 17:32 Manifesto7 wrote:
You already posted this on GG.net, and it is their tourny. Why do you post it here other than to find support to comfort yourself?

You won the games, congrats. You should be able to move on in this tournament. However, if I were organizing any other tournaments in the BW community, I would be sure not to invite you. You are an arrogant fag who thinks that bw skill = all. Your lack of manner is embarassing, and was only made worse by your opponents class in this situation.

Enjoy your 50 bucks, because you just traded another chunk of your already inferior image for it.

I wonder whether gg.net would have let him play in the first place if they knew who the smurf was. The fragbet league he cheated in was connected with gg.net, so he should probably be disqualified from this tournament simply for that reason.


Could you elaborate on how he cheated in fragbet?

http://sc.gosugamers.net/news.php?id=4720

I'm too lazy to write it all out so read that
people are similar in nature. its the experience of life that makes them so different.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
December 30 2006 08:56 GMT
#92
I feel this is a grey ethical zone because although the prize money there should go to the victor, Idra was a gigantic douche bag. Seriously, if it was me fronting the money for that tournament for GG.net and I heard what happened, I probably wouldn't write a check, especially if I had a lot of sympathy for the work they are doing and even a little involved in their staff. Just the thought of somebody treating our staff like this in one of our tournaments disgusts me, so I can see why they'd be pissed too.

But if it was a sponsor fronting most of the prize money, there'd be excuse... but I feel Idra should take some reponsibilty for this as well. I mean the admin did ask "vs who?" and a short simple reply with the name of the opponent would work, but instead, he takes the time to write out the longer message of "im playing go away". Sure, things may be settled later, but I honestly don't feel any sympathy for him. Players get thrown out of the game all the time in soccer, and their teams will usually always end up losing because of that. And I'm not sure, but in an individual sport like tennis, if a player constantly swears and gives the ref the middle finger, I'm pretty sure they have the power for some diciplinary action. But those are huge corporate and international tournaments... this is a tiny one with money probably front from one person, not for advertisement purposes, but out of good will. In that case, it makes more sense to have some common fucking courtesy.

In fact, I don't care what the "just" thing is. I don't care what is "right" based on the law. You're a gigantic tool and I hope you get the worst of it here just in general principle. If it takes you $50 to change your character, then I feel it is a worthy investment. But too bad it takes more than $50 to change all you douche bags in this society or this wouldn't be a problem.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-30 08:58:39
December 30 2006 08:58 GMT
#93
Someone being that much of a fucking asshole in your non-commercial tournament should be banned regardless of results. Idra you are a fucking moron how about you learn a thing or two about how not to be a jackass. If I would be hosting a tournament and kindly messaging one of the players who he is playing to know whether they're still in, and he sends me go away or whatever it was, no doubt I would remove him.

Hosting tournaments is really hard, the last thing you need is to be told to go away when you're trying to project the progress of the tournament.
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DarK]N[exuS
Profile Joined April 2006
China1441 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-30 09:19:33
December 30 2006 09:03 GMT
#94
On December 30 2006 17:32 -_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2006 17:13 XDawn wrote:
On December 30 2006 16:59 DarK]N[exuS wrote:
Ok first of all when an opponent is a complete douchebag why should the competition have to suffer through it? Just tell the guy he can't compete. Secondly, insulting the referees is almost ALWAYS punished in any other sport, and SC is no exception; if you're a complete asshole to the referee you deserve to be removed from the game. Add to that having everyone in the tournament hate you, as well as documented douchebaggery within the very evidence you try to save yourself with, and you have someone who should not have a chance at $50 that was submitted for a friendly, nice tournament.


Unfortunately, your analogy is flawed. In a team sport, if one person insults a ref, that person is punished (usually not by throwing him out of a game, but by a technical foul or something, which serves as a warning). The team isn't DQed for one person insulting a ref. However, if in a big boxing match (a 1v1 sport... actually make that a UFC MATCH!!!) a ref DQed a boxer because the boxer insulted him the ref would immediately lose his job and would never be allowed to participate in the sport ever again.

If you made a rule saying GM was required... it would a retarded rule and your tournament would suck.

Idra, you got screwed.



Well if you're going to try to play stupid complicated games here, then your explanation of why my analogy is flawed is flawed. We're not talking about disqualifying a team for an individuals inadequacies. We're talking about disqualifying an individual, which is what happened. No shit, of course an entire team doesn't get disqualified from one member being rude. This isn't a team we're talking about.

And yes, of course, requiring politeness would make a tournament suck. In fact, let's make a requirement that everyone be as rude as fucking possible, you cocksmoking asslicking faggot. How's that? Having courtesy is a boon, not something that would make a tournament bad.

On December 30 2006 17:45 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2006 16:02 DarK]N[exuS wrote:
Sow what you reap Idra. Since I also think (and I know that many other people do as well) that you are one of the rudest "known" players, I don't think I even mind you getting fucked over due to your complete lack of maturity. You ALWAYS call other people "dumb, inferior," or "stupid." You ALWAYS act as if you are somehow intellectually superior when in reality you're some 16 year old brat who must be fucking spoiled rotten. You're turning into one of those players that when people hear they must play versus, they don't want to because it's such a bad experience. You remind me of that "black[light]" guy, only instead of being incoherent in your insults, you're hypocritical.


I wasn't gonna post in this thread until I read this. Dark]n[exus you have to understand the way you behave on this forum have pissed waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more people off than anyone else who hasn't gotten banned yet. You're in no position to comment on other people's "manner" from your contact with them through TL. In fact although I never carry grudges from TL to Battlenet, if I ever see you on west I will be more than happy to ignore you, it's just the way you carry yourself. You think everyone else is arrogant and annoying while you piss the shit out of people. If you act this way on the internet God only knows what kind of a person you actually are. Cheers


As for you Zulu, I don't give a rat's ass what you have to say. If I listened to everyone who hated me on the internet I'd probably be stuck in a mental institution. You're an idiot and thus I don't take what you have to say seriously. If you think that insulting my person in real life is going to get you anywhere, you're wrong; one needs only look at Zia to see that online persona and actual life are 100% different. Anonymity changes things. Additionally, I'm only rude to 3-4 people on TL.net, and you're in that group simply because you annoy me so much and I have bad self-control. Don't try to act like the bigger man here; I witnessed you arguing with someone for something like 2 hours a few days ago in tl-west.


As for Idra's cheating in fragbet league, I believe that was when Assem played under Idra's name and then was caught?
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 30 2006 09:08 GMT
#95
asked nicely? he asked if i was forfeiting the tournament. he assumed i was not in my semi final match, meaning he had no clue where the other player was and made absolutely no effort to find out what was going on without disturbing me while i was playing. it was in the semi finals, there were 4 people still involved. he was not under any kind of stress, there wasnt even any pressure to make sure i was in my match. obviously leugim wasnt asking him to get me (since leugim was already in game with me), and later on (shown in ss) he says i was not in game with leugim when he asked me. hes pulling all this out of his ass since leugim wasnt complaining and no one else had a reason to.
he does not have a right to demand information from a person while theyre in game, especially when he has no immediate need for the information, especially when its information that could just as easily been gotten another way.

the guy who said refs dont interrupt the players while playing is correct, the sports metaphor falls through because even if you get penalized or thrown out for being disrespectful the ref doesnt come up to you and start demanding answers while you're still playing.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-30 09:18:12
December 30 2006 09:09 GMT
#96
davidgurt
Profile Joined September 2006
United States1355 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-30 09:14:45
December 30 2006 09:12 GMT
#97
On December 30 2006 17:32 Manifesto7 wrote:
You already posted this on GG.net, and it is their tourny. Why do you post it here other than to find support to comfort yourself?

You won the games, congrats. You should be able to move on in this tournament. However, if I were organizing any other tournaments in the BW community, I would be sure not to invite you. You are an arrogant fag who thinks that bw skill = all. Your lack of manner is embarassing, and was only made worse by your opponents class in this situation.

Enjoy your 50 bucks, because you just traded another chunk of your already inferior image for it.


On December 30 2006 17:58 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Someone being that much of a fucking asshole in your non-commercial tournament should be banned regardless of results. Idra you are a fucking moron how about you learn a thing or two about how not to be a jackass. If I would be hosting a tournament and kindly messaging one of the players who he is playing to know whether they're still in, and he sends me go away or whatever it was, no doubt I would remove him.

Hosting tournaments is really hard, the last thing you need is to be told to go away when you're trying to project the progress of the tournament.


Hahaha, bravo.
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Protoss-Fighting
Profile Joined October 2005
United States814 Posts
December 30 2006 09:13 GMT
#98
wether idra gets his money or not, i hope hes learned a lesson, and has seen what the community thinks about him, maby this will change him, for the good =], he mst of read all these post, and been like awwww =[

i've never had a problem with idra, but i havnt talked to him much either

gl all =]

i didnt get to watch the reps, but idras opponent sounds like an awsome guy, for taking the bm, and still reccomending idra advance or w.e
aka NrG.GoDz, nH.GoDz, GoDz[h20], GoDz[sK] (regretably) you get the picture. :p
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
December 30 2006 09:15 GMT
#99
On December 30 2006 18:03 DarK]N[exuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2006 17:32 -_- wrote:
On December 30 2006 17:13 XDawn wrote:
On December 30 2006 16:59 DarK]N[exuS wrote:
Ok first of all when an opponent is a complete douchebag why should the competition have to suffer through it? Just tell the guy he can't compete. Secondly, insulting the referees is almost ALWAYS punished in any other sport, and SC is no exception; if you're a complete asshole to the referee you deserve to be removed from the game. Add to that having everyone in the tournament hate you, as well as documented douchebaggery within the very evidence you try to save yourself with, and you have someone who should not have a chance at $50 that was submitted for a friendly, nice tournament.


Unfortunately, your analogy is flawed. In a team sport, if one person insults a ref, that person is punished (usually not by throwing him out of a game, but by a technical foul or something, which serves as a warning). The team isn't DQed for one person insulting a ref. However, if in a big boxing match (a 1v1 sport... actually make that a UFC MATCH!!!) a ref DQed a boxer because the boxer insulted him the ref would immediately lose his job and would never be allowed to participate in the sport ever again.

If you made a rule saying GM was required... it would a retarded rule and your tournament would suck.

Idra, you got screwed.



Well if you're going to try to play stupid complicated games here, then your explanation of why my analogy is flawed is flawed. We're not talking about disqualifying a team for an individuals inadequacies. We're talking about disqualifying an individual, which is what happened. No shit, of course an entire team doesn't get disqualified from one member being rude. This isn't a team we're talking about.

And yes, of course, requiring politeness would make a tournament suck. In fact, let's make a requirement that everyone be as rude as fucking possible, you cocksmoking asslicking faggot. How's that? Having courtesy is a boon, not something that would make a tournament bad.

Show nested quote +
On December 30 2006 17:45 zulu_nation8 wrote:
On December 30 2006 16:02 DarK]N[exuS wrote:
Sow what you reap Idra. Since I also think (and I know that many other people do as well) that you are one of the rudest "known" players, I don't think I even mind you getting fucked over due to your complete lack of maturity. You ALWAYS call other people "dumb, inferior," or "stupid." You ALWAYS act as if you are somehow intellectually superior when in reality you're some 16 year old brat who must be fucking spoiled rotten. You're turning into one of those players that when people hear they must play versus, they don't want to because it's such a bad experience. You remind me of that "black[light]" guy, only instead of being incoherent in your insults, you're hypocritical.


I wasn't gonna post in this thread until I read this. Dark]n[exus you have to understand the way you behave on this forum have pissed waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more people off than anyone else who hasn't gotten banned yet. You're in no position to comment on other people's "manner" from your contact with them through TL. In fact although I never carry grudges from TL to Battlenet, if I ever see you on west I will be more than happy to ignore you, it's just the way you carry yourself. You think everyone else is arrogant and annoying while you piss the shit out of people. If you act this way on the internet God only knows what kind of a person you actually are. Cheers


As for you Zulu, I don't give a rat's ass what you have to say. If I listened to everyone who hated me on the internet I'd probably be stuck in a mental institution. You're an idiot and thus I don't take what you have to say seriously. If you think that insulting my person in real life is going to get you anywhere, you're wrong; one needs only look at Zia to see that online persona and actual life are 100% different. Anonymity changes things. Additionally, I'm only rude to 3-4 people on TL.net, and you're in that group simply because you annoy me so much and I have bad self-control. Don't try to act like the bigger man here; I witnessed you arguing with someone for something like 2 hours a few days ago in tl-west.


As for Idra's cheating in fragbet league, I believe that was when Assem played under Idra's name and then was caught? Which resulted in Idra calling 90% of gg.net morons in the forums and insisting he didn't cheat until there was simply too much evidence, at which point he disappeared for a little while before coming back and hoping everyone would love him.


Go away please
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Cpt Obvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany3073 Posts
December 30 2006 09:16 GMT
#100
is there a need to get all that worked up on that 50 bucks?

please PLEASE calm down this is a forum not a "I CAN YELL LOUDER THAN YOU/INSULT BETTER THAN YOU!!!111" contest.

i changed my mind on the topic though.

please close it, let IdrA complain all he wants, but let him do so where it's useful, at GG.net.

or he could man up, take the loss against a superior administrative force and go home thinking about what he could probably have done wrong.
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