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BESTPOSTER
Profile Joined December 2006
Canada31 Posts
December 30 2006 07:48 GMT
#61
On December 30 2006 16:47 SainT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2006 16:40 BESTPOSTER wrote:
On December 30 2006 16:37 CultureMisfits wrote:
all the bad things that happen to idra is his fault alone. Its all due to his poor communication skills.
get out more



Yes Best Poster ?


I'm such a good poster i don't even have to type anything
SainT
Profile Joined February 2005
Chile1067 Posts
December 30 2006 07:57 GMT
#62
Lol Best
On December 30 2006 16:48 bburn wrote:
1. Idra is bm we all know this. The BW community generally allows bm, the question is should it? 'bm' actions like this are not put up with in the real world and there are consequences for them should this not be true for bw as well?

2. Idra did not have to pay anything to get into the tournment so he does not really have much to complain about in my opinion.

3. This could have easily been avoided by Idra simply answering the admin with some respect.

While I admit this probably wasn't the greatest reason to kick him from the tournment I think we can all agree it is much nicer to play when everyone is mannered.






I'm unable to download some reps if someone could take some pics of the fist Discussion plz
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DarK]N[exuS
Profile Joined April 2006
China1441 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-30 08:14:43
December 30 2006 07:59 GMT
#63
Ok first of all when an opponent is very rude why should the competition have to suffer through it? Just tell the guy he can't compete. Secondly, insulting the referees is almost ALWAYS punished in any other sport, and SC is no exception; if you're a rude to or insult the referee you deserve to be removed from the game. Add to that having everyone in the tournament hate you, as well as documented lack of basic courtesy within the very evidence you try to save yourself with, and you have someone who should not have a chance at $50 that was submitted for a friendly, nice tournament.
Where joy exists despair will always beckon.
davidgurt
Profile Joined September 2006
United States1355 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-30 08:03:45
December 30 2006 08:03 GMT
#64
On December 30 2006 16:59 DarK]N[exuS wrote:
Ok first of all when an opponent is a complete douchebag why should the competition have to suffer through it? Just tell the guy he can't compete. Secondly, insulting the referees is almost ALWAYS punished in any other sport, and SC is no exception; if you're a complete asshole to the referee you deserve to be removed from the game. Add to that having everyone in the tournament hate you, as well as documented douchebaggery within the very evidence you try to save yourself with, and you have someone who should not have a chance at $50 that was submitted for a friendly, nice tournament.


I thought about this too. Insulting an admin for a tournament can be thought of as being equivalent to insulting a referee during a game, which does warrant disciplinary action. However, even with this taken into account along with my experience with IdrA's bm directed towards me, I would have to say that there needs to be some sort of agreement made with Osiris (perhaps an apology on both sides would be appropriate, or something to that nature?)
There's crashing?
Myxomatosis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2392 Posts
December 30 2006 08:06 GMT
#65
On December 30 2006 16:48 bburn wrote:
1. Idra is bm we all know this. The BW community generally allows bm, the question is should it? 'bm' actions like this are not put up with in the real world and there are consequences for them should this not be true for bw as well?

2. Idra did not have to pay anything to get into the tournment so he does not really have much to complain about in my opinion.

3. This could have easily been avoided by Idra simply answering the admin with some respect.

While I admit this probably wasn't the greatest reason to kick him from the tournment I think we can all agree it is much nicer to play when everyone is mannered.

I'll respond to these point by point.

1. Neither impaling women on spikes, shooting up tanks or launching nukes are allowed in real life. Don't try and apply real life standards to a fucking computer game. I highly doubt that any of these "e-thugs" have as much of an ego IRL as they do on bnet.

2. Time is money. Also, there is a 50 dollar prize awarded to the winner which is a fair sum of money for a small tournament like this one. I'd be pissed if I were someone like Idra with a good chance of winning the tournament.

3. This could have been easily avoided if the admin had any knowledge of how to run a fair tourney and ignore his personal feelings towards a player.

"While I admit this probably wasn't the greatest reason to kick him from the tournment I think we can all agree it is much nicer to play when everyone is mannered."

If all the raindrops were lemondrops and gumdrops oh, what a rain that would be! Wishful thinking, bud. BUT Teh InTErNeTz is Seriouszs business!
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
December 30 2006 08:06 GMT
#66
Doesn't change the fact that the admin was not authorized probably to disqualify Idra for being BM. Wasn't laid out in the rules.
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LeJe
Profile Joined December 2006
Romania65 Posts
December 30 2006 08:12 GMT
#67
u guys should see the wgt admins
XDawn
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Canada4040 Posts
December 30 2006 08:13 GMT
#68
On December 30 2006 16:59 DarK]N[exuS wrote:
Ok first of all when an opponent is a complete douchebag why should the competition have to suffer through it? Just tell the guy he can't compete. Secondly, insulting the referees is almost ALWAYS punished in any other sport, and SC is no exception; if you're a complete asshole to the referee you deserve to be removed from the game. Add to that having everyone in the tournament hate you, as well as documented douchebaggery within the very evidence you try to save yourself with, and you have someone who should not have a chance at $50 that was submitted for a friendly, nice tournament.
Use it or lose it
TT1_banned
Profile Joined March 2006
Canada1206 Posts
December 30 2006 08:21 GMT
#69
who gives a shit if he bmed, admins have no right to ban him after he won his games everyone is different on bw why should he ajust himself and change the way he has to please others ? do you honestly think if testie was in idras spot the outcome would have been the same ? you guys judge someone to fast
~rOyAL~
Profile Joined January 2006
New Zealand175 Posts
December 30 2006 08:24 GMT
#70
BAD THE ADMIN
~rOyAL~
Profile Joined January 2006
New Zealand175 Posts
December 30 2006 08:24 GMT
#71
BAD THE ADMIN from gg.net
SainT
Profile Joined February 2005
Chile1067 Posts
December 30 2006 08:26 GMT
#72
On December 30 2006 17:12 LeJe wrote:
u guys should see the wgt admins


what is that supposed to mean
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Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2529 Posts
December 30 2006 08:26 GMT
#73
"the admin claims that i was not playing my match vs leugim (showing that he didnt check where leugim was or attempt to message him) and that since i ignored his requests to play my match i forfeited the tournament."

If this is true, then the admin didn't disqualify Idra for his bad manners. Idra was disqualified for supposedly not playing his match. This could be disproven by showing the replays. The end.
nArAnjO
Profile Joined October 2002
Peru2571 Posts
December 30 2006 08:30 GMT
#74
hm, what i don't understand is why some people defend this with "whatever he can be bm and shitz it's the internet", but then hang the admin when in the same "internet" he misbehavioured o_o
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27173 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-30 08:37:41
December 30 2006 08:32 GMT
#75
You already posted this on GG.net, and it is their tourny. Why do you post it here other than to find support to comfort yourself?

You won the games, congrats. You should be able to move on in this tournament. However, if I were organizing any other tournaments in the BW community, I would be sure not to invite you. You are an arrogant fag who thinks that bw skill = all. Your lack of manner is embarassing, and was only made worse by your opponents class in this situation.

Enjoy your 50 bucks, because you just traded another chunk of your already inferior image for it.
ModeratorGodfather
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
December 30 2006 08:32 GMT
#76
If the rules said BM could result in disqualification, it should be so.

Otherwise, it's not fair if BM caused idra to be kicked out. There's a reason there are rules. A lot of you have been speaking as if common sense should prevail here. But the rules are what should prevail. If the rules said BM is not allowed, idra should have been kicked out plain and simple.

Otherwise, (which I think is the case) maybe next time the rules can be changed.
Ars longa, vita brevis, principia aeturna.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
December 30 2006 08:32 GMT
#77
On December 30 2006 17:13 XDawn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2006 16:59 DarK]N[exuS wrote:
Ok first of all when an opponent is a complete douchebag why should the competition have to suffer through it? Just tell the guy he can't compete. Secondly, insulting the referees is almost ALWAYS punished in any other sport, and SC is no exception; if you're a complete asshole to the referee you deserve to be removed from the game. Add to that having everyone in the tournament hate you, as well as documented douchebaggery within the very evidence you try to save yourself with, and you have someone who should not have a chance at $50 that was submitted for a friendly, nice tournament.


Unfortunately, your analogy is flawed. In a team sport, if one person insults a ref, that person is punished (usually not by throwing him out of a game, but by a technical foul or something, which serves as a warning). The team isn't DQed for one person insulting a ref. However, if in a big boxing match (a 1v1 sport... actually make that a UFC MATCH!!!) a ref DQed a boxer because the boxer insulted him the ref would immediately lose his job and would never be allowed to participate in the sport ever again.

If you made a rule saying GM was required... it would a retarded rule and your tournament would suck.

Idra, you got screwed.

-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
December 30 2006 08:37 GMT
#78
Oh yeah, who else saw this post and said "awesome, some BW drama?" Something to get riled up about, something to feel righteously indignant about... oh what fun.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27173 Posts
December 30 2006 08:38 GMT
#79
On December 30 2006 17:37 -_- wrote:
Oh yeah, who else saw this post and said "awesome, some BW drama?" Something to get riled up about, something to feel righteously indignant about... oh what fun.


Ex-fucking-actly
ModeratorGodfather
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 30 2006 08:40 GMT
#80
On December 30 2006 17:32 Manifesto7 wrote:
You already posted this on GG.net, and it is their tourny. Why do you post it here other than to find support to comfort yourself?

You won the games, congrats. You should be able to move on in this tournament. However, if I were organizing any other tournaments in the BW community, I would be sure not to invite you. You are an arrogant fag who thinks that bw skill = all. Your lack of manner is embarassing, and was only made worse by your opponents class in this situation.

Enjoy your 50 bucks, because you just traded another chunk of your already inferior image for it.
i posted on gg.net after i posted here, this site gets more traffic and so suited my purpose better. i posted on gg.net as it was more likely to get gg.net admins attention, which was also necessary.
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