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H8
Profile Joined October 2013
Czech Republic563 Posts
October 21 2014 06:11 GMT
#12841
EU passion is still strong!
The Three Musketeers of EU Passion! TheBloodyDwarf, H8 and Sakat
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 21 2014 06:11 GMT
#12842
On October 21 2014 14:57 GumBa wrote:
Prepare to be disappointed by eu passion guys


It gives us NA people the chance to seize page 650.
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
October 21 2014 06:14 GMT
#12843
On October 21 2014 15:11 H8 wrote:
EU passion is still strong!



Good Morning EU! Time for Passion!
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
H8
Profile Joined October 2013
Czech Republic563 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 06:19:22
October 21 2014 06:18 GMT
#12844
On October 21 2014 15:14 Sakat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 15:11 H8 wrote:
EU passion is still strong!



Good Morning EU! Time for Passion!


With some luck we may get to the page 645 at the end of the afternoon ^^
The Three Musketeers of EU Passion! TheBloodyDwarf, H8 and Sakat
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
October 21 2014 06:20 GMT
#12845
On October 21 2014 15:18 H8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 15:14 Sakat wrote:
On October 21 2014 15:11 H8 wrote:
EU passion is still strong!



Good Morning EU! Time for Passion!


With some luck we may get to the page 645 at the end of the afternoon ^^



And then NA takes page 650
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 21 2014 06:26 GMT
#12846
this spam is ridiculous
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 06:42:07
October 21 2014 06:39 GMT
#12847
On October 21 2014 14:25 jarod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 14:10 Cheren wrote:
My very unscientific Disappointment Power Rank, which is just the number of fan club posts divided by the chance to win Blizzcon according to aligulac.

Name    Fanclub posts	%chance	disappointment index
MC 8289 1.77 4683.050847
Jaedong 2436 2.82 863.8297872
Life 3372 5.33 632.6454034
MMA 3746 8.03 466.5006227
Taeja 3358 7.96 421.8592965
Polt 3192 7.82 408.1841432
Bomber 2547 7.03 362.3044097
Innovation 1592 7.7 206.7532468
Hyun 868 5.95 145.8823529
StarDust 325 4.06 80.04926108
jjakji 590 7.78 75.83547558
soO 186 4.71 39.49044586
San 199 5.12 38.8671875
Classic 61 3.93 15.5216285
Zest 127 8.39 15.13706794
herO 108 11.61 9.302325581


I'll do it again once Pinnacle releases odds, iirc that was a better predictor than Aligulac last year.


So wait.. according to this herO has the greatest chance on wining blizzcon? Wow.. I`m not even upset. Still I consider Bomber the favorite.


It's largely due to how low MC's rating is + how many Terrans he's expected to versus. Throw the 2nd best vP rating (First) in herO's spot and he still has the highest chance at 10.18%
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Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
October 21 2014 06:46 GMT
#12848
On October 21 2014 15:39 Inflicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 14:25 jarod wrote:
On October 21 2014 14:10 Cheren wrote:
My very unscientific Disappointment Power Rank, which is just the number of fan club posts divided by the chance to win Blizzcon according to aligulac.

Name    Fanclub posts	%chance	disappointment index
MC 8289 1.77 4683.050847
Jaedong 2436 2.82 863.8297872
Life 3372 5.33 632.6454034
MMA 3746 8.03 466.5006227
Taeja 3358 7.96 421.8592965
Polt 3192 7.82 408.1841432
Bomber 2547 7.03 362.3044097
Innovation 1592 7.7 206.7532468
Hyun 868 5.95 145.8823529
StarDust 325 4.06 80.04926108
jjakji 590 7.78 75.83547558
soO 186 4.71 39.49044586
San 199 5.12 38.8671875
Classic 61 3.93 15.5216285
Zest 127 8.39 15.13706794
herO 108 11.61 9.302325581


I'll do it again once Pinnacle releases odds, iirc that was a better predictor than Aligulac last year.


So wait.. according to this herO has the greatest chance on wining blizzcon? Wow.. I`m not even upset. Still I consider Bomber the favorite.


It's largely due to how low MC's rating is + how many Terrans he's expected to versus. Throw the 2nd best vP rating (First) in herO's spot and he still has the highest chance at 10.18%



I'd say that Zest is the favourite. Then soO, Innovation, and then herO and Bomber
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
H8
Profile Joined October 2013
Czech Republic563 Posts
October 21 2014 06:47 GMT
#12849
On October 21 2014 15:46 Sakat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 15:39 Inflicted wrote:
On October 21 2014 14:25 jarod wrote:
On October 21 2014 14:10 Cheren wrote:
My very unscientific Disappointment Power Rank, which is just the number of fan club posts divided by the chance to win Blizzcon according to aligulac.

Name    Fanclub posts	%chance	disappointment index
MC 8289 1.77 4683.050847
Jaedong 2436 2.82 863.8297872
Life 3372 5.33 632.6454034
MMA 3746 8.03 466.5006227
Taeja 3358 7.96 421.8592965
Polt 3192 7.82 408.1841432
Bomber 2547 7.03 362.3044097
Innovation 1592 7.7 206.7532468
Hyun 868 5.95 145.8823529
StarDust 325 4.06 80.04926108
jjakji 590 7.78 75.83547558
soO 186 4.71 39.49044586
San 199 5.12 38.8671875
Classic 61 3.93 15.5216285
Zest 127 8.39 15.13706794
herO 108 11.61 9.302325581


I'll do it again once Pinnacle releases odds, iirc that was a better predictor than Aligulac last year.


So wait.. according to this herO has the greatest chance on wining blizzcon? Wow.. I`m not even upset. Still I consider Bomber the favorite.


It's largely due to how low MC's rating is + how many Terrans he's expected to versus. Throw the 2nd best vP rating (First) in herO's spot and he still has the highest chance at 10.18%



I'd say that Zest is the favourite. Then soO, Innovation, and then herO and Bomber


soO is gonna take second, so winner will be from the upper bracket. In Jaedong we believe!
The Three Musketeers of EU Passion! TheBloodyDwarf, H8 and Sakat
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
October 21 2014 06:49 GMT
#12850
Holy fuck what happened to this thread
Moderator
Calt
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany1140 Posts
October 21 2014 06:50 GMT
#12851
More EU passion reporting in, we can't let the NA scum have page 650 D:
Maru | MMA | Ryung | MKP | NaDa | BoxeR | FOREVER SLAYERS
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
October 21 2014 06:51 GMT
#12852
On October 21 2014 15:50 Calthrash wrote:
More EU passion reporting in, we can't let the NA scum have page 650 D:



Thank you!
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
October 21 2014 06:52 GMT
#12853
On October 21 2014 15:47 H8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 15:46 Sakat wrote:
On October 21 2014 15:39 Inflicted wrote:
On October 21 2014 14:25 jarod wrote:
On October 21 2014 14:10 Cheren wrote:
My very unscientific Disappointment Power Rank, which is just the number of fan club posts divided by the chance to win Blizzcon according to aligulac.

Name    Fanclub posts	%chance	disappointment index
MC 8289 1.77 4683.050847
Jaedong 2436 2.82 863.8297872
Life 3372 5.33 632.6454034
MMA 3746 8.03 466.5006227
Taeja 3358 7.96 421.8592965
Polt 3192 7.82 408.1841432
Bomber 2547 7.03 362.3044097
Innovation 1592 7.7 206.7532468
Hyun 868 5.95 145.8823529
StarDust 325 4.06 80.04926108
jjakji 590 7.78 75.83547558
soO 186 4.71 39.49044586
San 199 5.12 38.8671875
Classic 61 3.93 15.5216285
Zest 127 8.39 15.13706794
herO 108 11.61 9.302325581


I'll do it again once Pinnacle releases odds, iirc that was a better predictor than Aligulac last year.


So wait.. according to this herO has the greatest chance on wining blizzcon? Wow.. I`m not even upset. Still I consider Bomber the favorite.


It's largely due to how low MC's rating is + how many Terrans he's expected to versus. Throw the 2nd best vP rating (First) in herO's spot and he still has the highest chance at 10.18%



I'd say that Zest is the favourite. Then soO, Innovation, and then herO and Bomber


soO is gonna take second, so winner will be from the upper bracket. In Jaedong we believe!


I just don't believe in JD. I'm a huge fan of him, but I just don't believe he will do well. He had a pretty bad year
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
H8
Profile Joined October 2013
Czech Republic563 Posts
October 21 2014 07:04 GMT
#12854
On October 21 2014 15:52 Sakat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 15:47 H8 wrote:
On October 21 2014 15:46 Sakat wrote:
On October 21 2014 15:39 Inflicted wrote:
On October 21 2014 14:25 jarod wrote:
On October 21 2014 14:10 Cheren wrote:
My very unscientific Disappointment Power Rank, which is just the number of fan club posts divided by the chance to win Blizzcon according to aligulac.

Name    Fanclub posts	%chance	disappointment index
MC 8289 1.77 4683.050847
Jaedong 2436 2.82 863.8297872
Life 3372 5.33 632.6454034
MMA 3746 8.03 466.5006227
Taeja 3358 7.96 421.8592965
Polt 3192 7.82 408.1841432
Bomber 2547 7.03 362.3044097
Innovation 1592 7.7 206.7532468
Hyun 868 5.95 145.8823529
StarDust 325 4.06 80.04926108
jjakji 590 7.78 75.83547558
soO 186 4.71 39.49044586
San 199 5.12 38.8671875
Classic 61 3.93 15.5216285
Zest 127 8.39 15.13706794
herO 108 11.61 9.302325581


I'll do it again once Pinnacle releases odds, iirc that was a better predictor than Aligulac last year.


So wait.. according to this herO has the greatest chance on wining blizzcon? Wow.. I`m not even upset. Still I consider Bomber the favorite.


It's largely due to how low MC's rating is + how many Terrans he's expected to versus. Throw the 2nd best vP rating (First) in herO's spot and he still has the highest chance at 10.18%



I'd say that Zest is the favourite. Then soO, Innovation, and then herO and Bomber


soO is gonna take second, so winner will be from the upper bracket. In Jaedong we believe!


I just don't believe in JD. I'm a huge fan of him, but I just don't believe he will do well. He had a pretty bad year


He still managed to qualify for the Blizzcon almost without competing in WCS NA, so I don't think it is such a terrible year for him. Although the results in WCS NA were really disappointing.
The Three Musketeers of EU Passion! TheBloodyDwarf, H8 and Sakat
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
October 21 2014 07:08 GMT
#12855
On October 21 2014 16:04 H8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 15:52 Sakat wrote:
On October 21 2014 15:47 H8 wrote:
On October 21 2014 15:46 Sakat wrote:
On October 21 2014 15:39 Inflicted wrote:
On October 21 2014 14:25 jarod wrote:
On October 21 2014 14:10 Cheren wrote:
My very unscientific Disappointment Power Rank, which is just the number of fan club posts divided by the chance to win Blizzcon according to aligulac.

Name    Fanclub posts	%chance	disappointment index
MC 8289 1.77 4683.050847
Jaedong 2436 2.82 863.8297872
Life 3372 5.33 632.6454034
MMA 3746 8.03 466.5006227
Taeja 3358 7.96 421.8592965
Polt 3192 7.82 408.1841432
Bomber 2547 7.03 362.3044097
Innovation 1592 7.7 206.7532468
Hyun 868 5.95 145.8823529
StarDust 325 4.06 80.04926108
jjakji 590 7.78 75.83547558
soO 186 4.71 39.49044586
San 199 5.12 38.8671875
Classic 61 3.93 15.5216285
Zest 127 8.39 15.13706794
herO 108 11.61 9.302325581


I'll do it again once Pinnacle releases odds, iirc that was a better predictor than Aligulac last year.


So wait.. according to this herO has the greatest chance on wining blizzcon? Wow.. I`m not even upset. Still I consider Bomber the favorite.


It's largely due to how low MC's rating is + how many Terrans he's expected to versus. Throw the 2nd best vP rating (First) in herO's spot and he still has the highest chance at 10.18%



I'd say that Zest is the favourite. Then soO, Innovation, and then herO and Bomber


soO is gonna take second, so winner will be from the upper bracket. In Jaedong we believe!


I just don't believe in JD. I'm a huge fan of him, but I just don't believe he will do well. He had a pretty bad year


He still managed to qualify for the Blizzcon almost without competing in WCS NA, so I don't think it is such a terrible year for him. Although the results in WCS NA were really disappointing.



He never got past the semis in any Premier tournament he entered. Except that Chinese one where he beat Snute in the final. No disrespect for Snute, but he ain't no soO
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
Calt
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany1140 Posts
October 21 2014 07:08 GMT
#12856
Who did everyone put on their ESL Fantasy teams? I went with soO as a captain with Inno, MMA and herO.

I think all of them are pretty safe bets to get trough their ro16s, only MC vs herO is a little debatable due to being pvp imo. I suppose Stardust could pull out some weird cheese but I believe in MMA!
Maru | MMA | Ryung | MKP | NaDa | BoxeR | FOREVER SLAYERS
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
October 21 2014 07:09 GMT
#12857
On October 21 2014 16:08 Calthrash wrote:
Who did everyone put on their ESL Fantasy teams? I went with soO as a captain with Inno, MMA and herO.

I think all of them are pretty safe bets to get trough their ro16s, only MC vs herO is a little debatable due to being pvp imo. I suppose Stardust could pull out some weird cheese but I believe in MMA!



soO, Zest, Bomber and Inno
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
Calt
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany1140 Posts
October 21 2014 07:15 GMT
#12858
On October 21 2014 16:09 Sakat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 16:08 Calthrash wrote:
Who did everyone put on their ESL Fantasy teams? I went with soO as a captain with Inno, MMA and herO.

I think all of them are pretty safe bets to get trough their ro16s, only MC vs herO is a little debatable due to being pvp imo. I suppose Stardust could pull out some weird cheese but I believe in MMA!



soO, Zest, Bomber and Inno


I did consider Zest but I have a strange feeling he will lose to Life for some reason.. Bomber winning Jaedong should be pretty safe bet as well but I like Jaedong too much to admit it
Maru | MMA | Ryung | MKP | NaDa | BoxeR | FOREVER SLAYERS
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
October 21 2014 07:31 GMT
#12859
A friend of mine just told me that SC is not a real strategy game, just a bunch of random clicks on the keyboard. I tried to explain to him that it's more than just that, usinng BW as an example. #IMadeThis

Players have two equal (200/200) armies, after the battle one of them is exterminated and the other survived with 20-30% of the army.

One player (A), which was massacred, in the meantime (during battle), managed to build more units, and the player (B) didn't, and tried to win with a counter. And one minute later he got trashed like a baby rattle.

Player A, through the entire game successfully defended, but every now and then built one less unit to build more SCVs. Therefore, he had a better economy than player B.

Player A throughout the game worked more or less the same as Player B, but more successfully performed a drop and destroyed 10 probes.

That allowed him to build more production, more units. He is actually in an advantage in the game, although the army of player B was stronger.

Player B has 12-odd carriers and no minerals left, but these 12 carriers can destroy pretty much everything. Neither player has a lot of minerals, but player A certainly doesn't have enough to fend off these carriers with Goliaths (which is the standard against carriers I think). But he thought of something that some would never think of built 4-5 Ghosts and lockdowned 6-7 carriers. He had enough Goliaths to kill the remaining 6. And with something that never works (usually as soon as you make the ghosts, the chances of winning decrease because you just spent 500 minerals for a unit that is basicly useless in a fight). But with such unorthodox movement pulled him out.
Or, with 8 medics blinds 8 observers and flies in with 12 cloaked Wraiths on 12 carriers and slaughters them like pigs, cause there is no detection. Optical Flare (blind) is not even researshed in 99% of games, because it rarely gave you any advantage. Most people would not have thought of, cause they have never seen / heard / thought about using this ability. Looking generally at the game, it's useless.

Player A has predicted what player B can throw at him. With vultures he planted spider-mines on a passage to the left where he could be flanked. He put tanks on the high groudn looking to the right, defended by missile turrets. the rest of his army at the third base where the big attack would be. Player B thinks he has him defeated, attacks from all sides! First, hes Zealots get massacred by Mines. Tanks crush his dragoons with no high ground vision on the right. The forward attack seems to be working. but tanks show up at the last second, killing the rest og his ground forces.


But fuck it, it's all just useless clicks. 500 APM just to be cool. It does not show skill. The fact that Player A can actually build more workers while doing the same as the enemy, sacrificing a few units here and there, position his units in a strategically logical way and win the game is of no significance what-so-ever. This of course has nothing to do with skill. RTCliking Contest ftw!

(Now that I think about it, SC2 is almost like a clicking contest - The Machine wins everything!! Innovation ftw!!)
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
October 21 2014 07:32 GMT
#12860
On October 21 2014 16:15 Calthrash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 16:09 Sakat wrote:
On October 21 2014 16:08 Calthrash wrote:
Who did everyone put on their ESL Fantasy teams? I went with soO as a captain with Inno, MMA and herO.

I think all of them are pretty safe bets to get trough their ro16s, only MC vs herO is a little debatable due to being pvp imo. I suppose Stardust could pull out some weird cheese but I believe in MMA!



soO, Zest, Bomber and Inno


I did consider Zest but I have a strange feeling he will lose to Life for some reason.. Bomber winning Jaedong should be pretty safe bet as well but I like Jaedong too much to admit it



I like JD as well. It's just very hard to envision him beatng Bomber. (Why Life?)
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
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