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Nip would be a good addition for EU LCS. They are a good team and have potential. Millenium on the other side are the bottom and quite a broken team that doesn't really give EU LCS a bigger skill quality. But that doesn't mean millenium can't pull something out but NIP should win this.
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Lol just realised the loser of the mil vs nip is probably the team who will donate a top laner to clg.
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I think we could end up with the same EU LCS, very likely. Denial doesn't have what it takes. C9 has maybe a 30% shot. NIP maybe 50%. In comparison, NA LCS seems less clear. LMQ has a very strong chance. If C9 actually shows up they could take down EG. Coast is probably 70-80% over colBlack.
wish there were more teams in the LCS or that is was more accessible to the Challenger scene.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On April 24 2014 22:59 Sleight wrote:
I think we could end up with the same EU LCS, very likely. Denial doesn't have what it takes. C9 has maybe a 30% shot. NIP maybe 50%. In comparison, NA LCS seems less clear. LMQ has a very strong chance. If C9 actually shows up they could take down EG. Coast is probably 70-80% over colBlack.
wish there were more teams in the LCS or that is was more accessible to the Challenger scene.
Denial will be smashed 3-0, sadly we will watch CW again but probably they will improve and sub cowTard at least.
You're underestimating C9E a lot i guess.
I will take Odoamne and especially, Febiven, 9 times from 8 over Mimer and Selfie, and i guess, Santorin ofc is no k0u but still decent. Only chance for SHC is that Hjarnan-Voidle factor when they go to feed intentionally after losing early game. But i still will risk and go with C9E 3-2(1) just because i want to see what organisation did Jack and Dan create.
NiP are probably 70-30 favourites over {M}, but i wonder how did 4.5 hit Kerp and nukeduck, so i assume, nukeduck will play TF tonight as much as possible, banning Ziggs and Lulu and leaving Kerp with Orianna which i don't remember him playing.
kev1n and Zorozero will be on par, Creaton and Jree will have to step up huge like in good old summer days and then Millenium have chance. And i hope that KottenX learned something except for Kha'Zix and will teach Hulberto how to make plays. Dunno, 3-1 for NiP is looking like strong prediction but after NiP were destroyed by C9E and knowing how streaky are {M} and how fast NiP can go on tilt, i have no idea what will happen if Millenium take game 1.
Coast-CLB will be with same level of competition like CW-Denial, Wizfujin will carry, 3-0. Guess, it's not Westrice's destiny to play in LCS. Robert, at least, played 2 games.
EG-C9T will be all about Snoopeh who steps up always in playoffs, i have no idea what Pobelter is playing right now, but i assume they will just ban Ziggs, Nidalee and Orianna and take Lulu or even leave Ziggs if Pobelter is sure in his power against Bischu. I don't think that Pete and Krepo will feed to Altec and Gleeb, but it's only beacon of salvation for C9T with all my love to them.
3-1 EG or even 3-0 if Bischu chokes hard like always if Altec will be forced to play 4v0s.
XDG-LoMoQ will be sickest matchup, if XDG takes game 1, then it will be very close. If LMQ takes it, then 3-0. Hope that mancloud can step up and i'm quite interested in what XWX will play if XDG bans out Nidalee and Orianna and will take Ziggs/Lulu just.
I will risk and go with 3-2 XDG.
On April 24 2014 22:59 Sleight wrote:
I think we could end up with the same EU LCS, very likely. Denial doesn't have what it takes. C9 has maybe a 30% shot. NIP maybe 50%. In comparison, NA LCS seems less clear. LMQ has a very strong chance. If C9 actually shows up they could take down EG. Coast is probably 70-80% over colBlack.
wish there were more teams in the LCS or that is was more accessible to the Challenger scene.
NA already is 3+5, why do they need to make LCS bigger? To see more stomps?
EU is close, but in general, 8 teams format seems ok if they finally introduce bo2 formats and not bo1.
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LOMOMAN. THE WORLD IS READY FOR YOU. ITS YOUR TIME TO SHINE
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On April 24 2014 23:13 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2014 22:59 Sleight wrote:
I think we could end up with the same EU LCS, very likely. Denial doesn't have what it takes. C9 has maybe a 30% shot. NIP maybe 50%. In comparison, NA LCS seems less clear. LMQ has a very strong chance. If C9 actually shows up they could take down EG. Coast is probably 70-80% over colBlack.
wish there were more teams in the LCS or that is was more accessible to the Challenger scene. Denial will be smashed 3-0, sadly we will watch CW again but probably they will improve and sub cowTard at least. You're underestimating C9E a lot i guess. I will take Odoamne and especially, Febiven, 9 times from 8 over Mimer and Selfie, and i guess, Santorin ofc is no k0u but still decent. Only chance for SHC is that Hjarnan-Voidle factor when they go to feed intentionally after losing early game. But i still will risk and go with C9E 3-2(1) just because i want to see what organisation did Jack and Dan create. NiP are probably 70-30 favourites over {M}, but i wonder how did 4.5 hit Kerp and nukeduck, so i assume, nukeduck will play TF tonight as much as possible, banning Ziggs and Lulu and leaving Kerp with Orianna which i don't remember him playing. kev1n and Zorozero will be on par, Creaton and Jree will have to step up huge like in good old summer days and then Millenium have chance. And i hope that KottenX learned something except for Kha'Zix and will teach Hulberto how to make plays. Dunno, 3-1 for NiP is looking like strong prediction but after NiP were destroyed by C9E and knowing how streaky are {M} and how fast NiP can go on tilt, i have no idea what will happen if Millenium take game 1. Coast-CLB will be with same level of competition like CW-Denial, Wizfujin will carry, 3-0. Guess, it's not Westrice's destiny to play in LCS. Robert, at least, played 2 games. EG-C9T will be all about Snoopeh who steps up always in playoffs, i have no idea what Pobelter is playing right now, but i assume they will just ban Ziggs, Nidalee and Orianna and take Lulu or even leave Ziggs if Pobelter is sure in his power against Bischu. I don't think that Pete and Krepo will feed to Altec and Gleeb, but it's only beacon of salvation for C9T with all my love to them. 3-1 EG or even 3-0 if Bischu chokes hard like always if Altec will be forced to play 4v0s. XDG-LoMoQ will be sickest matchup, if XDG takes game 1, then it will be very close. If LMQ takes it, then 3-0. Hope that mancloud can step up and i'm quite interested in what XWX will play if XDG bans out Nidalee and Orianna and will take Ziggs/Lulu just. I will risk and go with 3-2 XDG. Show nested quote +On April 24 2014 22:59 Sleight wrote:
I think we could end up with the same EU LCS, very likely. Denial doesn't have what it takes. C9 has maybe a 30% shot. NIP maybe 50%. In comparison, NA LCS seems less clear. LMQ has a very strong chance. If C9 actually shows up they could take down EG. Coast is probably 70-80% over colBlack.
wish there were more teams in the LCS or that is was more accessible to the Challenger scene. NA already is 3+5, why do they need to make LCS bigger? To see more stomps? EU is close, but in general, 8 teams format seems ok if they finally introduce bo2 formats and not bo1.
So the idea that because NA is currently very divided so expanding the league is a waste overlooks how league play typically works. The larger the number of organizations in a league, the more opportunity to showcase talent, and the greater the chance of finding new talent. Also, as the strength of the top teams increases, the overall skill will also increase, although more slowly.
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Must be really tense for the 3 nip members who failed the last promos.
Talking about more teams in lcs, i think its a good idea. It is like you put the soil into the ground so that something can grow out of it.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On April 24 2014 23:34 Sleight wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2014 23:13 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 24 2014 22:59 Sleight wrote:
I think we could end up with the same EU LCS, very likely. Denial doesn't have what it takes. C9 has maybe a 30% shot. NIP maybe 50%. In comparison, NA LCS seems less clear. LMQ has a very strong chance. If C9 actually shows up they could take down EG. Coast is probably 70-80% over colBlack.
wish there were more teams in the LCS or that is was more accessible to the Challenger scene. Denial will be smashed 3-0, sadly we will watch CW again but probably they will improve and sub cowTard at least. You're underestimating C9E a lot i guess. I will take Odoamne and especially, Febiven, 9 times from 8 over Mimer and Selfie, and i guess, Santorin ofc is no k0u but still decent. Only chance for SHC is that Hjarnan-Voidle factor when they go to feed intentionally after losing early game. But i still will risk and go with C9E 3-2(1) just because i want to see what organisation did Jack and Dan create. NiP are probably 70-30 favourites over {M}, but i wonder how did 4.5 hit Kerp and nukeduck, so i assume, nukeduck will play TF tonight as much as possible, banning Ziggs and Lulu and leaving Kerp with Orianna which i don't remember him playing. kev1n and Zorozero will be on par, Creaton and Jree will have to step up huge like in good old summer days and then Millenium have chance. And i hope that KottenX learned something except for Kha'Zix and will teach Hulberto how to make plays. Dunno, 3-1 for NiP is looking like strong prediction but after NiP were destroyed by C9E and knowing how streaky are {M} and how fast NiP can go on tilt, i have no idea what will happen if Millenium take game 1. Coast-CLB will be with same level of competition like CW-Denial, Wizfujin will carry, 3-0. Guess, it's not Westrice's destiny to play in LCS. Robert, at least, played 2 games. EG-C9T will be all about Snoopeh who steps up always in playoffs, i have no idea what Pobelter is playing right now, but i assume they will just ban Ziggs, Nidalee and Orianna and take Lulu or even leave Ziggs if Pobelter is sure in his power against Bischu. I don't think that Pete and Krepo will feed to Altec and Gleeb, but it's only beacon of salvation for C9T with all my love to them. 3-1 EG or even 3-0 if Bischu chokes hard like always if Altec will be forced to play 4v0s. XDG-LoMoQ will be sickest matchup, if XDG takes game 1, then it will be very close. If LMQ takes it, then 3-0. Hope that mancloud can step up and i'm quite interested in what XWX will play if XDG bans out Nidalee and Orianna and will take Ziggs/Lulu just. I will risk and go with 3-2 XDG. On April 24 2014 22:59 Sleight wrote:
I think we could end up with the same EU LCS, very likely. Denial doesn't have what it takes. C9 has maybe a 30% shot. NIP maybe 50%. In comparison, NA LCS seems less clear. LMQ has a very strong chance. If C9 actually shows up they could take down EG. Coast is probably 70-80% over colBlack.
wish there were more teams in the LCS or that is was more accessible to the Challenger scene. NA already is 3+5, why do they need to make LCS bigger? To see more stomps? EU is close, but in general, 8 teams format seems ok if they finally introduce bo2 formats and not bo1. So the idea that because NA is currently very divided so expanding the league is a waste overlooks how league play typically works. The larger the number of organizations in a league, the more opportunity to showcase talent, and the greater the chance of finding new talent. Also, as the strength of the top teams increases, the overall skill will also increase, although more slowly.
If you add, let's say, 4 teams from Challenger into LCS to make it 12 teams format - who will stay in Challenger scene? There will be no growth of talent, because if you want to grow you need to play with better, and all guys who're better will be in LCS, scrimming with each other.
And strength of top teams won't increase either, they will just stagnate in this peaceful format without competition.
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On April 24 2014 23:39 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2014 23:34 Sleight wrote:On April 24 2014 23:13 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 24 2014 22:59 Sleight wrote:
I think we could end up with the same EU LCS, very likely. Denial doesn't have what it takes. C9 has maybe a 30% shot. NIP maybe 50%. In comparison, NA LCS seems less clear. LMQ has a very strong chance. If C9 actually shows up they could take down EG. Coast is probably 70-80% over colBlack.
wish there were more teams in the LCS or that is was more accessible to the Challenger scene. Denial will be smashed 3-0, sadly we will watch CW again but probably they will improve and sub cowTard at least. You're underestimating C9E a lot i guess. I will take Odoamne and especially, Febiven, 9 times from 8 over Mimer and Selfie, and i guess, Santorin ofc is no k0u but still decent. Only chance for SHC is that Hjarnan-Voidle factor when they go to feed intentionally after losing early game. But i still will risk and go with C9E 3-2(1) just because i want to see what organisation did Jack and Dan create. NiP are probably 70-30 favourites over {M}, but i wonder how did 4.5 hit Kerp and nukeduck, so i assume, nukeduck will play TF tonight as much as possible, banning Ziggs and Lulu and leaving Kerp with Orianna which i don't remember him playing. kev1n and Zorozero will be on par, Creaton and Jree will have to step up huge like in good old summer days and then Millenium have chance. And i hope that KottenX learned something except for Kha'Zix and will teach Hulberto how to make plays. Dunno, 3-1 for NiP is looking like strong prediction but after NiP were destroyed by C9E and knowing how streaky are {M} and how fast NiP can go on tilt, i have no idea what will happen if Millenium take game 1. Coast-CLB will be with same level of competition like CW-Denial, Wizfujin will carry, 3-0. Guess, it's not Westrice's destiny to play in LCS. Robert, at least, played 2 games. EG-C9T will be all about Snoopeh who steps up always in playoffs, i have no idea what Pobelter is playing right now, but i assume they will just ban Ziggs, Nidalee and Orianna and take Lulu or even leave Ziggs if Pobelter is sure in his power against Bischu. I don't think that Pete and Krepo will feed to Altec and Gleeb, but it's only beacon of salvation for C9T with all my love to them. 3-1 EG or even 3-0 if Bischu chokes hard like always if Altec will be forced to play 4v0s. XDG-LoMoQ will be sickest matchup, if XDG takes game 1, then it will be very close. If LMQ takes it, then 3-0. Hope that mancloud can step up and i'm quite interested in what XWX will play if XDG bans out Nidalee and Orianna and will take Ziggs/Lulu just. I will risk and go with 3-2 XDG. On April 24 2014 22:59 Sleight wrote:
I think we could end up with the same EU LCS, very likely. Denial doesn't have what it takes. C9 has maybe a 30% shot. NIP maybe 50%. In comparison, NA LCS seems less clear. LMQ has a very strong chance. If C9 actually shows up they could take down EG. Coast is probably 70-80% over colBlack.
wish there were more teams in the LCS or that is was more accessible to the Challenger scene. NA already is 3+5, why do they need to make LCS bigger? To see more stomps? EU is close, but in general, 8 teams format seems ok if they finally introduce bo2 formats and not bo1. So the idea that because NA is currently very divided so expanding the league is a waste overlooks how league play typically works. The larger the number of organizations in a league, the more opportunity to showcase talent, and the greater the chance of finding new talent. Also, as the strength of the top teams increases, the overall skill will also increase, although more slowly. If you add, let's say, 4 teams from Challenger into LCS to make it 12 teams format - who will stay in Challenger scene? There will be no growth of talent, because if you want to grow you need to play with better, and all guys who're better will be in LCS, scrimming with each other. And strength of top teams won't increase either, they will just stagnate in this peaceful format without competition.
Except we know that's not true. C9 got better. TSM even got a little better. CLG got a lot better. We actually know that top teams will improve because they want to win internationally. You are literally ignoring that the NA LCS split proves this isn't the case.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On April 24 2014 23:46 Sleight wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2014 23:39 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 24 2014 23:34 Sleight wrote:On April 24 2014 23:13 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On April 24 2014 22:59 Sleight wrote:
I think we could end up with the same EU LCS, very likely. Denial doesn't have what it takes. C9 has maybe a 30% shot. NIP maybe 50%. In comparison, NA LCS seems less clear. LMQ has a very strong chance. If C9 actually shows up they could take down EG. Coast is probably 70-80% over colBlack.
wish there were more teams in the LCS or that is was more accessible to the Challenger scene. Denial will be smashed 3-0, sadly we will watch CW again but probably they will improve and sub cowTard at least. You're underestimating C9E a lot i guess. I will take Odoamne and especially, Febiven, 9 times from 8 over Mimer and Selfie, and i guess, Santorin ofc is no k0u but still decent. Only chance for SHC is that Hjarnan-Voidle factor when they go to feed intentionally after losing early game. But i still will risk and go with C9E 3-2(1) just because i want to see what organisation did Jack and Dan create. NiP are probably 70-30 favourites over {M}, but i wonder how did 4.5 hit Kerp and nukeduck, so i assume, nukeduck will play TF tonight as much as possible, banning Ziggs and Lulu and leaving Kerp with Orianna which i don't remember him playing. kev1n and Zorozero will be on par, Creaton and Jree will have to step up huge like in good old summer days and then Millenium have chance. And i hope that KottenX learned something except for Kha'Zix and will teach Hulberto how to make plays. Dunno, 3-1 for NiP is looking like strong prediction but after NiP were destroyed by C9E and knowing how streaky are {M} and how fast NiP can go on tilt, i have no idea what will happen if Millenium take game 1. Coast-CLB will be with same level of competition like CW-Denial, Wizfujin will carry, 3-0. Guess, it's not Westrice's destiny to play in LCS. Robert, at least, played 2 games. EG-C9T will be all about Snoopeh who steps up always in playoffs, i have no idea what Pobelter is playing right now, but i assume they will just ban Ziggs, Nidalee and Orianna and take Lulu or even leave Ziggs if Pobelter is sure in his power against Bischu. I don't think that Pete and Krepo will feed to Altec and Gleeb, but it's only beacon of salvation for C9T with all my love to them. 3-1 EG or even 3-0 if Bischu chokes hard like always if Altec will be forced to play 4v0s. XDG-LoMoQ will be sickest matchup, if XDG takes game 1, then it will be very close. If LMQ takes it, then 3-0. Hope that mancloud can step up and i'm quite interested in what XWX will play if XDG bans out Nidalee and Orianna and will take Ziggs/Lulu just. I will risk and go with 3-2 XDG. On April 24 2014 22:59 Sleight wrote:
I think we could end up with the same EU LCS, very likely. Denial doesn't have what it takes. C9 has maybe a 30% shot. NIP maybe 50%. In comparison, NA LCS seems less clear. LMQ has a very strong chance. If C9 actually shows up they could take down EG. Coast is probably 70-80% over colBlack.
wish there were more teams in the LCS or that is was more accessible to the Challenger scene. NA already is 3+5, why do they need to make LCS bigger? To see more stomps? EU is close, but in general, 8 teams format seems ok if they finally introduce bo2 formats and not bo1. So the idea that because NA is currently very divided so expanding the league is a waste overlooks how league play typically works. The larger the number of organizations in a league, the more opportunity to showcase talent, and the greater the chance of finding new talent. Also, as the strength of the top teams increases, the overall skill will also increase, although more slowly. If you add, let's say, 4 teams from Challenger into LCS to make it 12 teams format - who will stay in Challenger scene? There will be no growth of talent, because if you want to grow you need to play with better, and all guys who're better will be in LCS, scrimming with each other. And strength of top teams won't increase either, they will just stagnate in this peaceful format without competition. Except we know that's not true. C9 got better. TSM even got a little better. CLG got a lot better. We actually know that top teams will improve because they want to win internationally. You are literally ignoring that the NA LCS split proves this isn't the case.
You know why did C9 become better? Because TSM and C9 aren't as pathetic as last season and can provide at least some kind of opposition. And it's not because competition got stronger because other 5 teams just became mediocre at best.
There is no reason to think that if we have 12 teams in LCS with bo2 format, then suddenly, Curse, Dignitas and, let's say, EG, will be on same level as C9.
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adding more teams to an already extremely lopsided league is just going to dilute the importance of having a good record and protect teams who need to make changes from relegation, I mean did you see Coast in the fall NACL, Zion was a living freight train capable of carrying bronze players he so outclassed the rest of the top lane talent, really didn't translate into the spring split 
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On April 24 2014 22:56 nafta wrote:
Lol just realised the loser of the mil vs nip is probably the team who will donate a top laner to clg.
This is when CLG.Mimer happens, 4 accounts of pure potential
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On April 24 2014 23:55 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2014 22:56 nafta wrote:
Lol just realised the loser of the mil vs nip is probably the team who will donate a top laner to clg. This is when CLG.Mimer happens, 4 accounts of pure potential
If it happens, i will stop cheering for CLG, i fucking promise.
Only for Doublelift.
;_;
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Is Santorin any good? Anyone have any idea?
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Are CLG seriously blaming Reddit for that? What the hell
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