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KlinKz
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada149 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-31 19:46:55
March 31 2014 19:44 GMT
#41
There are so many things that this OP left out of the story that distorts the event if read from this topic page. The responses from the OP is also irritating the American and European perspectives on police brutality is different, our cultures are different though it may seem that western cultures are very alike. Across the Atlantic ocean it is different, America has probably the most armed population in the world, these police endure stressful events on a day-to-day basis.

Don't look down on America, it's different there and America will never be Europe. I'm sorry to the man, but it's evident that his life choices that he made put him in that kind of situation.
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
March 31 2014 19:45 GMT
#42
Yeah, to everyone saying they shot him when his back was turned...

That's one of the worst situations to be confronting someone. You don't know what they're doing with their hands, you don't know they're taking something out, and if they're going to make a sudden movement it's very hard to see the body language beforehand. Turning around and hiding your hands is one of the stupidest things you could do when the police are pointing weapons at you.

And to everyone saying "he was complying with the officers", try reading the article. There reportedly was no "agreement", and him picking up his bags and walking towards them was entirely of his own accord. You can even hear him in the video, talking about how he "has the right to kill [the officers]" and how he can "keep the [officers] safe".
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zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-31 19:47:10
March 31 2014 19:46 GMT
#43
Guys, flashbangs arent really like in cs

and nobody is stupid enough to go close to someone whos known to be aggressive and doesnt show his hands
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
March 31 2014 19:49 GMT
#44
On April 01 2014 04:38 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 04:37 Golgotha wrote:
On April 01 2014 04:21 Advantageous wrote:
knives = threat. threat warrants self-defense. what are polices' self-defense? guns. what do guns do? shoot and kill or fatally wound. im not saying the shooting was justified, the officers couldve dealt with it some other way, that's less life-threatening, but they're under legal authority to apply "self-defense" if need be.


"knives = threat."

Wow, I applaud thee for coming up with that. So I guess nuking the guy could have worked as well huh? The guy is a threat, so all threats should be treated as potential bombs and be taken out immediately with blatant force. That's just self defense against a threat. So it makes it okay.

Can you seriously just sit down and try to wrap your head around the fact that the situation did not call for the force that was exhibited in this video? do you really believe that what they did should be just shrugged off as "legal authority"? wake up people, don't be so ignorant.

Not saying police are in the right here.
but look up tueller drill.


I already know the tueller drill. what this drill doesn't include is the fact there are 5 other men with rifles...look that up. 1v1, I can understand him shooting if he pulls a knife. But 6v1? The guy would have got riddled the first step he took with that knife.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
March 31 2014 19:52 GMT
#45
On April 01 2014 04:46 zezamer wrote:
Guys, flashbangs arent really like in cs

and nobody is stupid enough to go close to someone whos known to be aggressive and doesnt show his hands


Funny. I wonder how other incidences when an armed suspect with a knife is taken out. I guess every other cop has just shot the fuck out of them in cases like this.

Sorry bro, police are trained to deal with situations like this in a far more controlled manner. Those are acts are simply not on the front page since it's usual protocol and not a fucking human rights violation.

Maybe you should understand that the reason why this video has drawn so many hits is because this is NOT NORMAL.
Roflhaxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1244 Posts
March 31 2014 19:53 GMT
#46
On April 01 2014 04:49 Golgotha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 04:38 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 01 2014 04:37 Golgotha wrote:
On April 01 2014 04:21 Advantageous wrote:
knives = threat. threat warrants self-defense. what are polices' self-defense? guns. what do guns do? shoot and kill or fatally wound. im not saying the shooting was justified, the officers couldve dealt with it some other way, that's less life-threatening, but they're under legal authority to apply "self-defense" if need be.


"knives = threat."

Wow, I applaud thee for coming up with that. So I guess nuking the guy could have worked as well huh? The guy is a threat, so all threats should be treated as potential bombs and be taken out immediately with blatant force. That's just self defense against a threat. So it makes it okay.

Can you seriously just sit down and try to wrap your head around the fact that the situation did not call for the force that was exhibited in this video? do you really believe that what they did should be just shrugged off as "legal authority"? wake up people, don't be so ignorant.

Not saying police are in the right here.
but look up tueller drill.


I already know the tueller drill. what this drill doesn't include is the fact there are 5 other men with rifles...look that up. 1v1, I can understand him shooting if he pulls a knife. But 6v1? The guy would have got riddled the first step he took with that knife.

Also note the fact that drill is about the time it takes for you to draw your weapon etc. Here they already had the weapon pointed at the guy, THAT is the big difference here.
A game where the first thing you do is scout with a “worker”. Does that make any sense? Who scouts with a “worker”? That’s like sending out the janitor to perform recon, what general would do that? Retarded game.
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
March 31 2014 19:53 GMT
#47
On April 01 2014 04:44 KlinKz wrote:
There are so many things that this OP left out of the story that distorts the event if read from this topic page. The responses from the OP is also irritating the American and European perspectives on police brutality is different, our cultures are different though it may seem that western cultures are very alike. Across the Atlantic ocean it is different, America has probably the most armed population in the world, these police endure stressful events on a day-to-day basis.

Don't look down on America, it's different there and America will never be Europe. I'm sorry to the man, but it's evident that his life choices that he made put him in that kind of situation.

The guy was mentally ill.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
March 31 2014 19:53 GMT
#48
On April 01 2014 04:49 Golgotha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 04:38 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 01 2014 04:37 Golgotha wrote:
On April 01 2014 04:21 Advantageous wrote:
knives = threat. threat warrants self-defense. what are polices' self-defense? guns. what do guns do? shoot and kill or fatally wound. im not saying the shooting was justified, the officers couldve dealt with it some other way, that's less life-threatening, but they're under legal authority to apply "self-defense" if need be.


"knives = threat."

Wow, I applaud thee for coming up with that. So I guess nuking the guy could have worked as well huh? The guy is a threat, so all threats should be treated as potential bombs and be taken out immediately with blatant force. That's just self defense against a threat. So it makes it okay.

Can you seriously just sit down and try to wrap your head around the fact that the situation did not call for the force that was exhibited in this video? do you really believe that what they did should be just shrugged off as "legal authority"? wake up people, don't be so ignorant.

Not saying police are in the right here.
but look up tueller drill.


I already know the tueller drill. what this drill doesn't include is the fact there are 5 other men with rifles...look that up. 1v1, I can understand him shooting if he pulls a knife. But 6v1? The guy would have got riddled the first step he took with that knife.


Yeah, and did they shoot him as soon as he pulled the knives?

No, he was only shot when he turned around without his hands in a clearly visible location.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
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