There are copies of it elsewhere if you really want to read what I said but it's probably best I just "delete" it atm.
Sorry
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There are copies of it elsewhere if you really want to read what I said but it's probably best I just "delete" it atm. Sorry | ||
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epsilon.834
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sorry man | ||
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Dreamgzer
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Cheer up man =/ | ||
Skully
Germany17 Posts
Friends get into situations like this, and in like most of the time you will be able to figure everything out and get over it. The other part, well.. they have never been real friends. I hope you can find a way to get over this stuff and continue working together. | ||
4rChon
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Hope things get fixed as soon as possible. | ||
renlynn
United States276 Posts
for that matter, I don't think discussing it here (or anywhere else) really serves anything at the moment, either. | ||
jagtress
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
In this case, however... did you honestly, truly not think you were being a dick to Gen too often and that it went too far? I mean, self-awareness is hard on any scale, but Jesus, man. Regardless, take a day to calm down and you bros talk it out. Keep the character and if you want to be mean, learn to be a mean person instead of somebody who is just mean to one person. I suppose I'm most surprised that somehow this particular argument was enough to collapse the show in on itself. You all need to take a nap or something. | ||
.kv
United States2332 Posts
![]() but for real, sucks to hear/see this happen to you | ||
exoduas
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On January 07 2014 13:06 andy186 wrote: JP calling other people out on having an ego rofl yea its pretty hilarious | ||
aaronjreeves
United States8 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:00 iNcontroL wrote: Ok so I am shaking and emotional so forgive me for what is surely going to be a rambly bad post but I wanted to share I am removed from the show. JP thought I was attacking/bullying Gen when i said "shut the fuck up" and "nobody likes a whiney bitch" (in game). geoff [7:31:34 PM] JP McDaniel: if you call gen a whiny bitch again [7:31:36 PM] JP McDaniel: that is not fuckign cool [7:31:38 PM] JP McDaniel: and you are off the show [7:31:45 PM] JP McDaniel: i dont know why you ahve such an ego b ut i will not let you do that to anyone Fuck that. Im boycotting everything done by/involving JP. Im unsubscribing and never watching any of his content again. Fuck that and fuck him. | ||
GKFC
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However, this was completely the wrong way to handle this. As you said, if JP had a problem he should've come to you and talked it through first. To just lash out like that, then kick you off / shut down the show comes across as very immature. Certainly not impressed with the way it was handled. Hopefully calmer heads prevail, but I think this has done a lot of damage to the perception of JP / the show... Take it easy, G. | ||
Verator
United States283 Posts
That being said, it was absolutely too much of a knee-jerk reaction, and the correct move was to stop for a few minutes, and come back to talk about it later. There's a difference between being kind of a dick in character, and singling people out regardless of character. With Vincent, it could seem to be in character, but to carry that attitude over to the new game was hard to argue it was in character. I suggest you both take some time off and go back later, and talk it over with each other individually after you sleep, or talk it over with Gen. TL;DR: JP was wrong to rage kick so quickly without talking it over, but you were wrong to be repeatedly mean to Gen in the same way every week. You both need to take time off and talk it over. | ||
abei1234
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Strut
United States182 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:06 Satiate wrote: This kind of thing reminds me of seeing my high school friends sharing their breakups through Facebook. Considering much of this is JPs living, I'd recommend having some professional courtesy and keeping it offline. JP should have thought of that before he threatened to kick Geoff off in the middle of the show. I've unsubscribed until this is resolved. | ||
Noobity
United States871 Posts
Am I the only one that finds it... odd that this is all down to overreacting on a roleplaying game show? EDIT: I'd also like to point out that everyone on the show has been mean to Gen at one point or another, cept maybe Ryan? And everyone gets exasperated with her. She's clearly not an easy person to do this kind of thing with. This isn't said to excuse that she's abused, it's to say that everyone on that show has acted in an unprofessional and borderline mean way to her in the past. If it's been missed by any of the rest of the cast and this is the first time it's been brought up then that's a failure on the part of the entire cast (including Gen). Exploding like this randomly is silly by Geoff and JP. Geoff is right in that you don't just explode. JP is right in that you're not overly a douche. But it was handled fucking abysmally. | ||
Sithril
Slovakia169 Posts
Anyway - yes, Vincent was a d*ck to Abigail most of the series and at times it was *really* hard to distinguish Vincent being agressive to Abi and Geoff beinc agressive to Gen. It was over time I realised it was Vinc, but still it was noticable and brough up (somtimes) in discussion between fans of Rollplay DnD. The difference between You and JP is that with JP he convays it that its obviously non serious, but your characters tended to be serios guys. I hope this gets settled. Its not like the first time humans got into a conflict and I personally see you guys getting along again and continuing RP:Solumn with Victarian *and* Alice in the same group. Cheers! | ||
Noogie
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Gentso
United States2218 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:03 JazzJackrabbit wrote: For fuck's sake....first Artosis, now you? Why is everyone having a falling out with JP?? From experience, people who get upset over ego have an ego problem themselves. I shouldn't comment on this at all since I haven't watched JP since SOTG was relevant, but from what I've seen he probably can't deal with becoming irrelevant. I wonder if a VOD will be available for people like me who have no idea what's going on? I saw Geoff's tweet and thought he was trolling because this entire thing just sounds so ridiculous to me. | ||
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reju
United States7 Posts
will still watch you and jp's stuff <3 u both | ||
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Gator
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Grettin
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At least Ryan and Gen acted this like everyone should have. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
Don't fucking kill Dark Heresy! e: and what about Gen? Was she offended by your conduct, did she talk with JP about it without talking to you, how the hell did a mess like this just appear? | ||
Falcor
Canada894 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:05 jchxn wrote: I don't think JP handled this well at all, and while his argument does have some validity, you have to keep in mind the show is called ROLLPLAY and the whole point is to ROLEPLAY. Totally irrational decision that was off the cuff in the end and never should have led up to this in the first place. while i agree. His "good" character Vincent was still a dick to abigael, and now his bad character just so happens to pick out jens character to be a dick too. However if jen doesn't haev a issue with it, it's fine...and inter party conflict like this is common. In a game of mine i was a paladin and there was a inquistor who had a opposing gods...so when we battle back and forth at the end of the session or after a "arguement" we always made sure we were still cool. It seems like this was handled wrongly | ||
ahwarlin
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I feel betrayed, hurt and alone. Sorry to the fans that followed me on this journey. Not sure where I go from here. Good god man, get off your high horse. You said something you shouldn't have said, and JP got pissed. And then you both got pissed in public. Take off your victim hood mask and be a man instead. And if you were really trying to RP to Gen's character, why'd you call the old man a "whiny bitch"? Not "go back to your medicine you old fuck" or "deal with it, gramps"? | ||
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MinzySC2
United States261 Posts
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aike
United States1629 Posts
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United States58 Posts
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imJealous
United States1382 Posts
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plated.rawr
Norway1676 Posts
Now kiss and make up and get over it. Neither yours or his side is in the right here. | ||
theJob
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Have watched Rollplay, Dark heresy and R&D religously since release. It all ends now. You have my support and condolences m8. | ||
ImHuko
United States996 Posts
You have always wanted to talk down to Gen and JP has INFACT yelled at you before. He has told you before to stop yelling at Gen and let her roleplay how she wants.. In fact, he actually said "shut the fuck up, geoff. let gen play how she wants". You remember the shut the fuck up part, but not the part that you whine about never being told. Stop playing the fucking victim, you're a grown ass man. You caused this shit by being a dick to Gen, and you haven't even apologized, just tried to play victim. Also for the "JP is allowed to be a jerk". JP is not a very funny guy, and when he tries to be funny, he laughs at himself. He never once said something out of the ordinary rude in his roleplaying without laughing or smiling afterwards. When you called her a whiney bitch, you had the most serious look on your face, right before realizing what you did, then you got kind of worried. That is not roleplaying, that is letting emotion take control but having a solid backup playing claiming it as roleplaying. | ||
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mainerd
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JazzJackrabbit
Canada1272 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:10 Gentso wrote: Show nested quote + On January 07 2014 13:03 JazzJackrabbit wrote: For fuck's sake....first Artosis, now you? Why is everyone having a falling out with JP?? From experience, people who get upset over ego have an ego problem themselves. I shouldn't comment on this at all since I haven't watched JP since SOTG was relevant, but from what I've seen he probably can't deal with becoming irrelevant. I wonder if a VOD will be available for people like me who have no idea what's going on? I saw Geoff's tweet and thought he was trolling because this entire thing just sounds so ridiculous to me. I believe the Twitch VODs are sub only and he probably won't upload a VOD of this to YouTube. | ||
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Darkhorse
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People should be able to discuss things before it gets to this level. | ||
Jampackedeon
United States2053 Posts
My opinion, as a fan who has watched every episode of Rollplay, is that you sleep on it or take the week and as you suggested that JP sit down and talk with you about what is and isn't acceptable as other shows he Rollplays on (R&D) have definite worse in character behavior. I think JP overreacted, especially since he did not give you an opportunity to explain, but its his show and if he wants those sort of rules he can have them as long as he is clear what they are. You guys need to set firmer ground rules for playing it seems, but I hope you can continue with what is my favorite show in esports (ha) right now. | ||
exoduas
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:13 plated.rawr wrote: Yes, you've been a dick and have been bullying others in your various rokeplaying endevours. Yes, JP is overreacting by calling you out for it this late and using it as an excuse to throw you out. You've both fucked up. Now kiss and make up and get over it. Neither yours or his side is in the right here. May this be read a thousand times and seen for the truth that it is. | ||
KingRajesh
United States927 Posts
Jesus H. Christ. | ||
Dismund
United States23 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:13 MinzySC2 wrote: C'mon Geoff, it's pretty obvious that you can't insult pure, innocent, internet attractive womens around the whitest of knights JP "Thirsty as fuck" McDaniels. HAHAHAHAHA | ||
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On January 07 2014 13:14 ImHuko wrote: You have always been a dick to Gen, whether it was with body language, or words. Gen is always visibly effected to the point where she can't even have fun and role play how she wants. The fact that you haven't even apologized in your mopey bullshit post here speaks loudly about you. You have always wanted to talk down to Gen and JP has INFACT yelled at you before. He has told you before to stop yelling at Gen and let her roleplay how she wants.. In fact, he actually said "shut the fuck up, geoff. let gen play how she wants". You remember the shut the fuck up part, but not the part that you whine about never being told. Stop playing the fucking victim, you're a grown ass man. You caused this shit by being a dick to Gen, and you haven't even apologized, just tried to play victim. I recognize your name as a hater from other threads/projects. You aren't welcome here as you are incredibly biased and mean. Please don't come back here. | ||
orBitual
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i still hope you work it out, though. | ||
Shadow Sylph
United States98 Posts
That addressing the roleplay aspect, on the flip side those phrases are really just being dismissive of Gen's point of view and to say that your idea is better. Especially because these happen frequently or almost exclusively with Gen as well, it is as if you're attacking her or (if accepting roleplay) her character. Even if it's not about personal attacks against Gen, personal attacks against her character are not conducive to good roleplay dynamics either. If you are going to roleplay a mean or aggressive character, it still has to function within the group in some way that represent a respect for those that you travel with. TL;DR; No one wants to travel with a "whiney bitch" (Not as mean as it sounds) | ||
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MangoMountain
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Seriously, how does this stuff not happen behind closed doors and in private. | ||
Borsti
Germany79 Posts
Now I'm sitting here, the clock hit 5am already and a part of me still hopes this is an incredibly bad joke. I'm sure this wasn't handled the best way and I hope you guys can sleep a night about it and have a talk tomorrow to clear this situation up. You, JP, Gen, Neal and Ryan have created something from nothing. Something thousands of people don't want to miss anymore. Sure it'd end some day, many people thought the end of Rollplay D&D was the end of it, but that ending at least was an ending worth living through. What happened today is just not worth to be the end of something that amazing. If it ends up to be the end of the groups D&D journey, then it has to be that way. One can not force people to work // play together. It would just be the saddest ending to this journey one could possibly imagine. Best regards, Borsti | ||
RayzorFlash
Canada253 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:14 iNcontroL wrote: I acknowledge that I am mean to gen from time to time. I apologized to her as I didn't know it was hurting her feelings. I am not saying this to absolve myself of it but rather to express my sincere apologies for doing that. My point is however I genuinely had no idea it was becoming an actual issue. You can believe that or not. I didn't know. Neither Gen or JP ever said anything about it to me. I pride myself on always striving to improve but I sometimes have no fucking idea that I am doing something wrong.. by going from 0 to boiled over I got blind sided. If you think that is me claiming to be the victim so be it. I am just trying to give perspective. Gen herself says that she isn't pissed off about it and hopes it would all just work out. It's literally just between JP and you ![]() | ||
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gyad
United States423 Posts
I'm a fan of Geoff as well and is sad by this, but please don't call JP out on being a hypocrite. He was definitely very impulsive when he cancelled the show, but he did the right thing. He just did it in a REALLY bad way. | ||
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Dreadwolf
Canada220 Posts
Most people have faults when rping. Some people are to passive, some people take too much time, some people are too focused ton details, some people cant help to metagame all the time. Some people cant abide to be weak, some people cant abide to work with the other character 100%.. rule lawers.. i could go on for a while. Part of what make a good rping group is accepting other peoples bad habbits and have a good time anyway. You have a good group, HAVE, no HAD. Work it out, i have been playing DnD or VtM and other games.. Every Friday, for the past.. 15 years. it IS worth it to to at least try. | ||
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SaWse
Belgium102 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:09 GKFC wrote: OK, firstly, Geoff I think you can be a bit of a jerk to Gen. Sometimes valid, other times you just jump down her throat. So I can see where JP is coming from. However, this was completely the wrong way to handle this. As you said, if JP had a problem he should've come to you and talked it through first. To just lash out like that, then kick you off / shut down the show comes across as very immature. Certainly not impressed with the way it was handled. Hopefully calmer heads prevail, but I think this has done a lot of damage to the perception of JP / the show... Take it easy, G. Couldn't have worded it any better myself. | ||
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ShiniSama
United States103 Posts
First off for JP to COMPLETELY 100% remove you from the show is a dumb idea. The show won't be the same if you're not there Geoff and I know for a fact that thousands, literally, will not be watching if you're not part of it. I could understand taking you off it for the time being or canceling the show to work shit out, but completely removing you is downright wrong. Second, both Geoff and JP are in the wrong in many ways here. First JP should not have said when he ended the stream "I had to kick Geoff the show". He should have ended it saying that there was some technical difficulty or something other then "I had to kick Geoff off the show". Thats just asking for drama. Geoff, as much as I understand how you think posting this thread is going to help people understand or help you vent your feelings this whole thread is a bad idea. This thread is just inviting people to hate on JP or bitch about something. Its just going to fuel the fire. JP definitely should have brought the whole bullying thing up before just kicking you off. JP should have asked Gen if she felt as if she was being attacked by Geoff and then let Gen and Geoff work it out. If JP felt like he was being attacked HE should have brought it up with Geoff, just like Geoff said in his post. But the bottom line is this post is a very bad idea and is not going to help anything calm down. This whole thing is incredibly blown out of proportion and I think that both JP and Geoff handled things poorly. There are many more reasons that I have that I could use as support for my argument, but these are the main things that I think are the most important. This show is literally thousands of peoples favorite shows on twitch and if it ends just because of a stupid fight would be very disappointing. What would be even more sad is if a good friendship like Geoffs and JP's, a friendship that brings thousands of people enjoyment and laughter, ended over such a dumb fight. | ||
KingRajesh
United States927 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:13 MinzySC2 wrote: C'mon Geoff, it's pretty obvious that you can't insult pure, innocent, internet attractive womens around the whitest of knights JP "Thirsty as fuck" McDaniels. REK'D | ||
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[MD]Frostbite
Canada292 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:03 JazzJackrabbit wrote: For fuck's sake....first Artosis, now you? Why is everyone having a falling out with JP?? What falling out? | ||
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Darkhorse
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On January 07 2014 13:21 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: ...and everyone fucked up! Incontrol, sympathy for JP not giving you any heads-up, but this blog does nothing but harm. Just look at all your e-minions freaking out. You really think cooler heads can prevail after this? Seems like most people in this thread agree that both sides were in the wrong. No reason to derail it with the "e-minions freaking out" randomness. | ||
Noogie
Canada49 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:21 SaWse wrote: Show nested quote + On January 07 2014 13:09 GKFC wrote: OK, firstly, Geoff I think you can be a bit of a jerk to Gen. Sometimes valid, other times you just jump down her throat. So I can see where JP is coming from. However, this was completely the wrong way to handle this. As you said, if JP had a problem he should've come to you and talked it through first. To just lash out like that, then kick you off / shut down the show comes across as very immature. Certainly not impressed with the way it was handled. Hopefully calmer heads prevail, but I think this has done a lot of damage to the perception of JP / the show... Take it easy, G. Couldn't have worded it any better myself. I'll go with this as well....right now I don't know if I "could" watch. | ||
JazzJackrabbit
Canada1272 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:23 [MD]Frostbite wrote: Show nested quote + On January 07 2014 13:03 JazzJackrabbit wrote: For fuck's sake....first Artosis, now you? Why is everyone having a falling out with JP?? What falling out? I assume you're asking about Artosis? They had disagreements over SOTG which is why Dan started Meta. | ||
exoduas
86 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:17 Shadow Sylph wrote: Regardless of your character being mean or whatever and you wanting to play a meaner character... If your character was really that mean/dismissive you wouldn't be apart of a group. You would never have been allowed to join such an awesome and adventurous group. Either that or you would be outcast because you are unproductive and not a 'team player.' (hence what occurred) That addressing the roleplay aspect, on the flip side those phrases are really just being dismissive of Gen's point of view and to say that your idea is better. Especially because these happen frequently or almost exclusively with Gen as well, it is as if you're attacking her or (if accepting roleplay) her character. Even if it's not about personal attacks against Gen, personal attacks against her character are not conducive to good roleplay dynamics either. If you are going to roleplay a mean or aggressive character, it still has to function within the group in some way that represent a respect for those that you travel with. TL;DR; No one wants to travel with a "whiney bitch" (Not as mean as it sounds) Puke some more sunshine. This is not MLP rollplay. Characters can be mean all they want. Dysfunctional groups are way more fun to roleplay than "awesome and adventurous best friends groups" | ||
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thunder54
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Also dont sweet it he will be begging you to come back once he realizes your actually the driving force behind these shoes and the most interesting person he has got by farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:24 Darkhoarse wrote: Show nested quote + On January 07 2014 13:21 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: ...and everyone fucked up! Incontrol, sympathy for JP not giving you any heads-up, but this blog does nothing but harm. Just look at all your e-minions freaking out. You really think cooler heads can prevail after this? Seems like most people in this thread agree that both sides were in the wrong. No reason to derail it with the "e-minions freaking out" randomness. He is right though, releasing this to the public was a poor decision. He should have talked with Gen and then JP to deal with it, rather than going public. | ||
Areon
United States273 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:21 SaWse wrote: Show nested quote + On January 07 2014 13:09 GKFC wrote: OK, firstly, Geoff I think you can be a bit of a jerk to Gen. Sometimes valid, other times you just jump down her throat. So I can see where JP is coming from. However, this was completely the wrong way to handle this. As you said, if JP had a problem he should've come to you and talked it through first. To just lash out like that, then kick you off / shut down the show comes across as very immature. Certainly not impressed with the way it was handled. Hopefully calmer heads prevail, but I think this has done a lot of damage to the perception of JP / the show... Take it easy, G. Couldn't have worded it any better myself. Yes, this right here. Ho-ly fuck, I still cannot believe shit went down like this, but damn. To sum it up, this dude said it best. | ||
registerjustforthis
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Alright well I am not even sure if you are going to read this and you probably won't, but I have so advice about these types of fights. First I get you are hurt and you have a right to be because you were misunderstood. However, do not say much more while you are hurt it will only make everything worse. Take some time and think then go and talk it out. I would mainly suggest you go and try to make amends because no one wants to lose a friend. JP is only trying to stand up for Gen and you need to explain it was not meant that way, and then prove it. Change Victarian right now to a true Chaotic Good or Neutral Good character. Play him as someone awesome and does Badass shit, but is kind to his friends and does not kill hostages etc. That way you are nice to Gen and everyone else and still the amazing Vincent like character we all know and love. Best of Luck and I hope you can work this out without losing friends. | ||
Grettin
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On January 07 2014 13:23 Plansix wrote: Close the blog, I can hear the pitchforks coming. Remember how SotG died. We can't have it again. No one wants this. This is absolutely the best idea. I already tweeted at Geoff when he posted the blog that he probably shouldn't. This is only going to make things worse. Both are to blame, friends shouldn't bring these kind of stuff to the public before talking out first. | ||
farvacola
United States18828 Posts
Geoff, you're great, don't let this get you down. It's nice to see someone unwilling to play fluffy bunny all day everyday, and I hope you continue to do you. | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:25 Plansix wrote: Show nested quote + On January 07 2014 13:24 Darkhoarse wrote: On January 07 2014 13:21 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: ...and everyone fucked up! Incontrol, sympathy for JP not giving you any heads-up, but this blog does nothing but harm. Just look at all your e-minions freaking out. You really think cooler heads can prevail after this? Seems like most people in this thread agree that both sides were in the wrong. No reason to derail it with the "e-minions freaking out" randomness. He is right though, releasing this to the public was a poor decision. He should have talked with Gen and then JP to deal with it, rather than going public. I don't agree with this being brought into a public forum. But when someone cuts off communication with you during an argument you always feel that you need to express your frustration somewhere. This I know from experience. But I agree with you, Geoff should be talking to JP and Gen and shouldn't have posted this blog. | ||
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Obeast96
United States106 Posts
I've enjoyed everything that you have done since WCG and hope you don't take it personally for too long. I understand that JP was a bit truthful on your comments on other players, but I just thought that JP didn't think it through long enough. Hope you guys take a bit of a time out, make-up, and get back to doing what the rest of us have enjoyed for so long: playing games. Honestly, the last thing I want are two angry men, a long-running show gone, and the internet sad. Best wishes! -Phil | ||
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Darkhorse
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On January 07 2014 13:28 Fingo wrote: Show nested quote + On January 07 2014 13:14 iNcontroL wrote: I acknowledge that I am mean to gen from time to time. I apologized to her as I didn't know it was hurting her feelings. I am not saying this to absolve myself of it but rather to express my sincere apologies for doing that. My point is however I genuinely had no idea it was becoming an actual issue. You can believe that or not. I didn't know. Neither Gen or JP ever said anything about it to me. I pride myself on always striving to improve but I sometimes have no fucking idea that I am doing something wrong.. by going from 0 to boiled over I got blind sided. If you think that is me claiming to be the victim so be it. I am just trying to give perspective. A certain amount of edginess makes the show fun for a lot of us. We like to see you be yourselves (or your character) unabashedly. If someone crosses a personal line (Geoff didn't IMO), discuss it like adults. Very disappointed with how this was handled. #teamgeoff ... Breaking this into teams like some juvenile grudge match game of dodgeball is the last thing this situation needs. | ||
ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
>Can only RP sunshine characters Way to kick off the only entertaining personality on the show, JP. | ||
KingRajesh
United States927 Posts
JP needs to realize that he's just the facilitator in this, more people watch for Geoff, CatZ, Neal, Ryan, TotalBiscuit, DJWheat, and GM Steve over him. | ||
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neurosx
Luxembourg1096 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:29 Rekrul wrote: sometimes men go to great lengths to get laid | ||
FFGenerations
7088 Posts
You have a very dominating personality and occasionally it causes you to act like a dick to more submissive types of people. There have been at least half dozen cases during RP that you've said something outright dick-like to Gen, making both her and some of your viewers noticeably uncomfortable. You can generally tell when someone feels uncomfortable about the way you've talked to them because they don't laugh and just go silent and pretend to ignore what you said. There came a point end of last year when JP had a small outburst and told you to shut the fuck up because you kept talking over Gen and talking down to her. I too felt defensive over Gen, because I felt like you were being a dick to her (not in a funny way) and were making her feel like shit, and was glad JP said something to call you out on it. Gen is very good at shrugging shit off. JP on the other hand, like me, bottles things up and this results in outbursts like this. JP wants you to realise that your dominating personality causes you to be a dick sometimes, acknowledge this, and apologise to Gen. Of all things, I am surprised that you didn't notice that sometimes you "go too far" and are just a downright dick by accident. I'm pretty sure I notice you purposefully try to "reel it in" or hold your tongue because you notice that you're going too far with asserting yourself over other people. I fully expected you to feel that your comment "Nobody likes a whiney bitch." was too much, and that you would tactfully apologise to Gen during (or before) the break in the show. Regards | ||
Dismund
United States23 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:29 Rekrul wrote: sometimes men go to great lengths to get laid | ||
makrillR
8 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:29 Rekrul wrote: sometimes men go to great lengths to get laid | ||
HighPassage
United States82 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:29 Rekrul wrote: sometimes men go to great lengths to get laid quote of the year all years | ||
Swissie
1 Post
Sarcastic banter that has a bit of an edge can be fun if it's between friends and there's some back and forth, but between you and Gen it's all one-sided and feels much more uncomfortable than fun as a viewer. Anyways, I hope cooler heads prevail, and you and JP can patch things up, because the rest of the time you guys make for a great show. | ||
Shadow Sylph
United States98 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:14 iNcontroL wrote: I acknowledge that I am mean to gen from time to time. I apologized to her as I didn't know it was hurting her feelings. Regardless if people's feelings are hurt or not, treating someone that way as if it is okay, is not okay. Especially because as you have already agreed you were targeting Gen specifically. Your character was not in general mean and rude. Again not a good atmosphere for the show and I will admit it bugged me a lot when she would suggest something and you would out of character say something like 'shut the fuck up' and 'listen to me' (if you think it's in character it still really pulls away from the roleplay aspect and bring me the viewer away from the story aspect) That being said even in your own post you say that you hung up on the call after JP warned you. What you have listed as JP's chat log is him warning you not to do it again or else you get kicked off the show. You became emotionally outraged that your behavior all along has been 'unacceptable' to JP and he is just now mentioning it. So you became defensive and tried to shift blame onto JP. Maybe this caused JP to take further action or what not, I am unsure. However, I do not see a text message from JP saying 'You're off the show' just his 'tone it down' (paraphrase) At this point though, creating a post on teamliquid and publicizing the behind the scenes aspect in a drama centric way is very very childish. I would be shocked if he would let you back on the show after making a sensational post in an attempt to draw support before JP even explains the situation to anyone. Grats on rush posting to the forums. | ||
ShiniSama
United States103 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:27 farvacola wrote: Lol JP, smooth move. As if the community needed more reason to let you slip further into the obscurity that you clearly deserve. I've never quite been able to figure out why it is that some homely schmuck has been able to coast on his "esports" reputation for so long, but part of me is glad that he'd shoot himself in the foot like this. Maybe it's time to get a real job. Geoff, you're great, don't let this get you down. It's nice to see someone unwilling to play fluffy bunny all day everyday, and I hope you continue to do you. And this is the type of people that this type of thread brings. It doesn't help anything. | ||
packrat386
United States5077 Posts
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Neonarg
United States10 Posts
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:29 Rekrul wrote: sometimes men go to great lengths to get laid But he already got rejected by Gen once before. Hard | ||
kessen
Australia1 Post
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Emokes
United States37 Posts
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Rynn
Finland1 Post
What you're doing now is like the attention seeking Facebook posts when someone writes something like: "Omg, can't believe what just happened" or "Why always me?" Sleep on it. Hug your wife, play with your dog, do anything to stop you venting/pouring your heart out when you're not thinking straight. I hope you guys make up and clear the air in private. You were the main reason I enjoyed the RP shows. | ||
KingRajesh
United States927 Posts
On January 07 2014 13:36 ch33psh33p wrote: Show nested quote + On January 07 2014 13:29 Rekrul wrote: sometimes men go to great lengths to get laid But he already got rejected by Gen once before. Hard What? Really? | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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Germany25657 Posts
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