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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
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Banaora
Germany234 Posts
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On March 19 2014 03:53 Banaora wrote: I would consider this picture anti-putin propaganda. I know that several members of parliament across Europe have been invited to watch the referendum. On this picture you see some who did go to Crimea probably because of publicity for them. Many other parliamentarians did not go. Anti-putin propaganda, that's why rt.com proudly quoted exactly those people. | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
On March 18 2014 16:05 Geisterkarle wrote: I remembered something "funny" about this and found it again: http://blog.seattlepi.com/candacewhiting/2014/02/21/exxon-mobil-ceo-sues-to-keep-fracking-project-away-from-his-property-but-supports-fracking-elsewhere/ tl;dr Basically the URL-title  Fracking is good and cheap and has only "unimportant" influence on the environment! ... also keep it away from me! So fracking in the Ukraine is the "best" the big US-oil/gas companies can hope for! But to be fair: I also always hate those "green" people, that vote for more solar and wind power ... and when there are plans to build a solar/wind plant near them they are the first to petition against them, because of the view and it will lower the value of their property (many green supports are quite wealthy middle class)! But while I think all this is quite important in this whole Ukrainian "mess", we get a little off topic here! Like you said this is pretty much no different from rich US liberals living in Massachusetts who don't want wind farms off Cape Cod and have fought tooth and nail - and successfully - to keep them from being constructed. Rich people are all for their pet projects - industrial or environmentalist - as long as they aren't in their backyard. | ||
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Banaora
Germany234 Posts
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On March 19 2014 04:00 Banaora wrote: Oh common, there is propaganda from both sides. And showing only radicals on one picture is objective or what. There were also others there not shown on the picture. That picture is a press conference, hardly our fault if they only invite neonazis there. Edit: not to mention that those also are the people commonly quoted and cited in every russian media (no, NO other voice other than those names), so i kinda am weirded out by what you're trying to say. That picture speaks for itself, as much as you might not like it. | ||
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Banaora
Germany234 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
didn't germany say they were mislead by the U.S. on iraq etc. if you expect them to not be allies or publicly denounce the U.S. as in a civ5 game, then that's a silly standard to have for criticism. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
Bäckman is from Finland like one guy already said. He is working for russian goverment... | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5299 Posts
first and foremost people really really really hate the west and its democracy bullshit because we only get to be their economical slaves and political/territorial vassals. no one wants that. | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On March 19 2014 03:20 Saihv wrote: this could turn in to a shooting war now...  Its already a shooting war for the dead Ukrainian soldier... | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On March 19 2014 04:20 xM(Z wrote: first and foremost people really really really hate the west and its democracy bullshit because we only get to be their economical slaves and political/territorial vassals. no one wants that. No one in the West wants you as slaves or political vassals, they want to sell you things and its in the West's interest for you to become richer so they can sell you even more things | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On March 19 2014 03:46 Cheerio wrote: Kazahstan acknowledged Crimean annexation and it's status as part of Russia. What else are they supposed to do? They have more Russians and all that precious oil that needs to be protected. | ||
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myminerals
560 Posts
so are you implying that the referendum was all a fraud and Crimean people have nothing to do with the current situation? | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On March 19 2014 03:43 oneofthem wrote: lol why is putin recruiting literal neonazis for his cause? to battle the neonazi junta in kiev? fascists know the methods of fascists the best obviously, great genius Putin is just thinking outside of the box. | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
first and foremost people really really really hate the west and its democracy bullshit because we only get to be their economical slaves and political/territorial vassals. no one wants that. Global poverty was cut in half in the last 20 years. It has also witnessed the rising economic/geopolitical/territorial power of countries like: China Brazil India Indonesia The Philippines Vietnam Venezuela Colombia Poland Turkey I guess this was somehow accomplished despite the West and its democracy bullshit making poorer countries their economic slaves and political/territorial vassals. so are you implying that the referendum was all a fraud and Crimean people have nothing to do with the current situation? that question has little to do with putin inviting a bunch of neo-nazis and other fascists to stand in front of the cameras for some kremlin propaganda as you know full well it's just misdirection on your part | ||
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myminerals
560 Posts
On March 19 2014 04:32 DeepElemBlues wrote: Global poverty was cut in half in the last 20 years. It has also witnessed the rising economic/geopolitical/territorial power of countries like: China Brazil India Indonesia The Philippines Vietnam Venezuela Colombia Poland Turkey I guess this was somehow accomplished despite the West and its democracy bullshit making poorer countries their economic slaves and political/territorial vassals. that question has little to do with putin inviting a bunch of neo-nazis and other fascists to stand in front of the cameras for some kremlin propaganda as you know full well it's just misdirection on your part it is. propaganda is everywhere, I try to keep my head above the surface. | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5299 Posts
On March 19 2014 04:29 Sub40APM wrote: No one in the West wants you as slaves or political vassals, they want to sell you things and its in the West's interest for you to become richer so they can sell you even more things but we're not becoming richer, we are just given more debt. they give us (lend) money so we could buy their shit then leave us with the debt. /clap @ zlefin: i'm not covering anyone. the leaders in my country are daylight robbers, corrupt, brazen and stupid. regardless, that has nothing to do with what i said. the west does what the west does = not helping. | ||
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myminerals
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