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On March 18 2014 16:08 Gamlet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2014 01:08 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On March 18 2014 00:45 Gamlet wrote:On March 18 2014 00:20 mdb wrote:On March 18 2014 00:18 Gamlet wrote:On March 17 2014 23:49 Fjodorov wrote:On March 17 2014 23:41 Gamlet wrote:
I am from Kiev.And i want to be part of Russia. Whats stopping you? Are you not welcome in Russia? Or wait, lets have every minority in every country create independent countries or join other countries. I love Kiev.And i doesnt want live in another city.Its stoping me.Kiev its mother of russian cities. I think independence no sense for Ukraine.We must be part of Russia.My hope its Great Slavian Union. Which countries do you thnik should be part of the Great Slavian Union? All slavian countries.Bulgaria its too slavian coutry.But i doesnt know about Bulgaria want it or not.But Ukraine-Russia-Belarus union its first step. Will russia be leader of that? Or do all those countries have same rights? Yeah.I think Russia its strongest slavian country
Well Tito already told you what we think about this Russian dream (Stalin's at the time) and if Russia ever tries it, the current residents will back those words.
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^Here in Slovenia if you read comments sections of our biggest news webpages, the public opinion is scarily in favor of Russia concerning the Crimea. I don't mind it though.
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On March 18 2014 19:20 ImFromPortugal wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2014 18:39 myminerals wrote:On March 18 2014 17:28 Silvanel wrote:
Polish media reports that turnout during referendum in Sevastopol was 124%. 474k votes cats while theres 383k people registred in Sevastopol. Pretty funny that they still make those kinds of mistakes, i mean they should be pretty good at faking votings right now. Hell, why did they even bother? The general popultion was in favor of being anexed anyway.
Also some people who were against anexation are being evicted from their homes. I am sure that 80% if not more of Crimea citizens would like to join Russia. Above that, the same thing can be said for all eastern cities of Ukraine, such as Donetsk or Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkiv and many others. Rigged or not this referendum does not prove anything. Crimea has always been a Russian territory with people who think of themselves as Russians and speak Russian, what other facts do you need? I am not saying that it was absolutely right to "annex" this territory now, but I can't disagree with the fact that russian people live there. Was Hitler right when he invaded Austria?
Hitler didn't invade Austria, don't be silly.
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On March 18 2014 18:39 myminerals wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2014 17:28 Silvanel wrote:
Polish media reports that turnout during referendum in Sevastopol was 124%. 474k votes cats while theres 383k people registred in Sevastopol. Pretty funny that they still make those kinds of mistakes, i mean they should be pretty good at faking votings right now. Hell, why did they even bother? The general popultion was in favor of being anexed anyway.
Also some people who were against anexation are being evicted from their homes. I am sure that 80% if not more of Crimea citizens would like to join Russia. Above that, the same thing can be said for all eastern cities of Ukraine, such as Donetsk or Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkiv and many others. Rigged or not this referendum does not prove anything. Crimea has always been a Russian territory with people who think of themselves as Russians and speak Russian, what other facts do you need? I am not saying that it was absolutely right to "annex" this territory now, but I can't disagree with the fact that russian people live there.
You're simply wrong. Someone linked a study earlier that before the Maidan only 40% in Crimea even identified as Russian. Why would the other 60% want to join Russia if they don't see themself as one.
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On March 18 2014 19:36 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2014 19:20 ImFromPortugal wrote:On March 18 2014 18:39 myminerals wrote:On March 18 2014 17:28 Silvanel wrote:
Polish media reports that turnout during referendum in Sevastopol was 124%. 474k votes cats while theres 383k people registred in Sevastopol. Pretty funny that they still make those kinds of mistakes, i mean they should be pretty good at faking votings right now. Hell, why did they even bother? The general popultion was in favor of being anexed anyway.
Also some people who were against anexation are being evicted from their homes. I am sure that 80% if not more of Crimea citizens would like to join Russia. Above that, the same thing can be said for all eastern cities of Ukraine, such as Donetsk or Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkiv and many others. Rigged or not this referendum does not prove anything. Crimea has always been a Russian territory with people who think of themselves as Russians and speak Russian, what other facts do you need? I am not saying that it was absolutely right to "annex" this territory now, but I can't disagree with the fact that russian people live there. Was Hitler right when he invaded Austria? Hitler didn't invade Austria, don't be silly.
just like russia diddn't invade Ukraine? And just as russians won't annex Crimea? silly boy.
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On March 18 2014 19:36 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2014 19:20 ImFromPortugal wrote:On March 18 2014 18:39 myminerals wrote:On March 18 2014 17:28 Silvanel wrote:
Polish media reports that turnout during referendum in Sevastopol was 124%. 474k votes cats while theres 383k people registred in Sevastopol. Pretty funny that they still make those kinds of mistakes, i mean they should be pretty good at faking votings right now. Hell, why did they even bother? The general popultion was in favor of being anexed anyway.
Also some people who were against anexation are being evicted from their homes. I am sure that 80% if not more of Crimea citizens would like to join Russia. Above that, the same thing can be said for all eastern cities of Ukraine, such as Donetsk or Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkiv and many others. Rigged or not this referendum does not prove anything. Crimea has always been a Russian territory with people who think of themselves as Russians and speak Russian, what other facts do you need? I am not saying that it was absolutely right to "annex" this territory now, but I can't disagree with the fact that russian people live there. Was Hitler right when he invaded Austria? Hitler didn't invade Austria, don't be silly.
They transferred power to Germany, and Wehrmacht troops entered Austria to enforce the Anschluss. The Nazis held a plebiscite within the following month, asking the people to ratify the fait accompli. They claimed to have received 99.7561% of the vote in favor.
Sounds familiar?
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On March 18 2014 19:40 ImFromPortugal wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2014 19:36 zeo wrote:On March 18 2014 19:20 ImFromPortugal wrote:On March 18 2014 18:39 myminerals wrote:On March 18 2014 17:28 Silvanel wrote:
Polish media reports that turnout during referendum in Sevastopol was 124%. 474k votes cats while theres 383k people registred in Sevastopol. Pretty funny that they still make those kinds of mistakes, i mean they should be pretty good at faking votings right now. Hell, why did they even bother? The general popultion was in favor of being anexed anyway.
Also some people who were against anexation are being evicted from their homes. I am sure that 80% if not more of Crimea citizens would like to join Russia. Above that, the same thing can be said for all eastern cities of Ukraine, such as Donetsk or Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkiv and many others. Rigged or not this referendum does not prove anything. Crimea has always been a Russian territory with people who think of themselves as Russians and speak Russian, what other facts do you need? I am not saying that it was absolutely right to "annex" this territory now, but I can't disagree with the fact that russian people live there. Was Hitler right when he invaded Austria? Hitler didn't invade Austria, don't be silly. just like russia diddn't invade Ukraine? And just as russians won't annex Crimea? silly boy.
You cannot compare a whole country wanting to become a part of a greater pan-Germanic nation to what is happening now in Crimea, maybe there are other WWII analogies that can be used here but Austria is not one.
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Russian Federation38 Posts
On March 18 2014 19:40 ImFromPortugal wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2014 19:36 zeo wrote:On March 18 2014 19:20 ImFromPortugal wrote:On March 18 2014 18:39 myminerals wrote:On March 18 2014 17:28 Silvanel wrote:
Polish media reports that turnout during referendum in Sevastopol was 124%. 474k votes cats while theres 383k people registred in Sevastopol. Pretty funny that they still make those kinds of mistakes, i mean they should be pretty good at faking votings right now. Hell, why did they even bother? The general popultion was in favor of being anexed anyway.
Also some people who were against anexation are being evicted from their homes. I am sure that 80% if not more of Crimea citizens would like to join Russia. Above that, the same thing can be said for all eastern cities of Ukraine, such as Donetsk or Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkiv and many others. Rigged or not this referendum does not prove anything. Crimea has always been a Russian territory with people who think of themselves as Russians and speak Russian, what other facts do you need? I am not saying that it was absolutely right to "annex" this territory now, but I can't disagree with the fact that russian people live there. Was Hitler right when he invaded Austria? Hitler didn't invade Austria, don't be silly. just like russia diddn't invade Ukraine? And just as russians won't annex Crimea? silly boy.
Oh you are very smart boy, say how it was for us! Crimean people celebrated until the morning the victory in the referendum at gunpoint! or what? ^^
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On March 18 2014 19:43 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2014 19:36 zeo wrote:On March 18 2014 19:20 ImFromPortugal wrote:On March 18 2014 18:39 myminerals wrote:On March 18 2014 17:28 Silvanel wrote:
Polish media reports that turnout during referendum in Sevastopol was 124%. 474k votes cats while theres 383k people registred in Sevastopol. Pretty funny that they still make those kinds of mistakes, i mean they should be pretty good at faking votings right now. Hell, why did they even bother? The general popultion was in favor of being anexed anyway.
Also some people who were against anexation are being evicted from their homes. I am sure that 80% if not more of Crimea citizens would like to join Russia. Above that, the same thing can be said for all eastern cities of Ukraine, such as Donetsk or Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkiv and many others. Rigged or not this referendum does not prove anything. Crimea has always been a Russian territory with people who think of themselves as Russians and speak Russian, what other facts do you need? I am not saying that it was absolutely right to "annex" this territory now, but I can't disagree with the fact that russian people live there. Was Hitler right when he invaded Austria? Hitler didn't invade Austria, don't be silly. Show nested quote +They transferred power to Germany, and Wehrmacht troops entered Austria to enforce the Anschluss. The Nazis held a plebiscite within the following month, asking the people to ratify the fait accompli. They claimed to have received 99.7561% of the vote in favor. Sounds familiar?
How do you think annexation works? You think you become part of another county but the military and political elite of that country are not allowed onto your territory?
You think there is no paperwork involved when a country stops existing?
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On March 18 2014 19:46 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2014 19:40 ImFromPortugal wrote:On March 18 2014 19:36 zeo wrote:On March 18 2014 19:20 ImFromPortugal wrote:On March 18 2014 18:39 myminerals wrote:On March 18 2014 17:28 Silvanel wrote:
Polish media reports that turnout during referendum in Sevastopol was 124%. 474k votes cats while theres 383k people registred in Sevastopol. Pretty funny that they still make those kinds of mistakes, i mean they should be pretty good at faking votings right now. Hell, why did they even bother? The general popultion was in favor of being anexed anyway.
Also some people who were against anexation are being evicted from their homes. I am sure that 80% if not more of Crimea citizens would like to join Russia. Above that, the same thing can be said for all eastern cities of Ukraine, such as Donetsk or Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkiv and many others. Rigged or not this referendum does not prove anything. Crimea has always been a Russian territory with people who think of themselves as Russians and speak Russian, what other facts do you need? I am not saying that it was absolutely right to "annex" this territory now, but I can't disagree with the fact that russian people live there. Was Hitler right when he invaded Austria? Hitler didn't invade Austria, don't be silly. just like russia diddn't invade Ukraine? And just as russians won't annex Crimea? silly boy. You cannot compare a whole country wanting to become a part of a greater pan-Germanic nation to what is happening now in Crimea, maybe there are other WWII analogies that can be used here but Austria is not one.
you didn't answer my question. Was Hitler right to take (invade) Austria and annex it to the third reich ?
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On March 18 2014 19:49 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2014 19:43 m4ini wrote:On March 18 2014 19:36 zeo wrote:On March 18 2014 19:20 ImFromPortugal wrote:On March 18 2014 18:39 myminerals wrote:On March 18 2014 17:28 Silvanel wrote:
Polish media reports that turnout during referendum in Sevastopol was 124%. 474k votes cats while theres 383k people registred in Sevastopol. Pretty funny that they still make those kinds of mistakes, i mean they should be pretty good at faking votings right now. Hell, why did they even bother? The general popultion was in favor of being anexed anyway.
Also some people who were against anexation are being evicted from their homes. I am sure that 80% if not more of Crimea citizens would like to join Russia. Above that, the same thing can be said for all eastern cities of Ukraine, such as Donetsk or Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkiv and many others. Rigged or not this referendum does not prove anything. Crimea has always been a Russian territory with people who think of themselves as Russians and speak Russian, what other facts do you need? I am not saying that it was absolutely right to "annex" this territory now, but I can't disagree with the fact that russian people live there. Was Hitler right when he invaded Austria? Hitler didn't invade Austria, don't be silly. They transferred power to Germany, and Wehrmacht troops entered Austria to enforce the Anschluss. The Nazis held a plebiscite within the following month, asking the people to ratify the fait accompli. They claimed to have received 99.7561% of the vote in favor. Sounds familiar? How do you think annexation works? You think you become part of another county but the military and political elite of that country are not allowed onto your territory? You think there is no paperwork involved when a country stops existing?
Wasn't your statement "Hitler didn't invade Austria, don't be silly"?
Read up on "Anschluss" and the term quiet invasion in that regard, come back, accept that you're wrong, all good.
You cannot compare a whole country wanting to become a part of a greater pan-Germanic nation
The referendum on that never happened, don't spread misinformation. Austria was expected to vote against the "Anschluss", until a coup happened.
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On March 18 2014 19:49 ImFromPortugal wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2014 19:46 zeo wrote:On March 18 2014 19:40 ImFromPortugal wrote:On March 18 2014 19:36 zeo wrote:On March 18 2014 19:20 ImFromPortugal wrote:On March 18 2014 18:39 myminerals wrote:On March 18 2014 17:28 Silvanel wrote:
Polish media reports that turnout during referendum in Sevastopol was 124%. 474k votes cats while theres 383k people registred in Sevastopol. Pretty funny that they still make those kinds of mistakes, i mean they should be pretty good at faking votings right now. Hell, why did they even bother? The general popultion was in favor of being anexed anyway.
Also some people who were against anexation are being evicted from their homes. I am sure that 80% if not more of Crimea citizens would like to join Russia. Above that, the same thing can be said for all eastern cities of Ukraine, such as Donetsk or Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkiv and many others. Rigged or not this referendum does not prove anything. Crimea has always been a Russian territory with people who think of themselves as Russians and speak Russian, what other facts do you need? I am not saying that it was absolutely right to "annex" this territory now, but I can't disagree with the fact that russian people live there. Was Hitler right when he invaded Austria? Hitler didn't invade Austria, don't be silly. just like russia diddn't invade Ukraine? And just as russians won't annex Crimea? silly boy. You cannot compare a whole country wanting to become a part of a greater pan-Germanic nation to what is happening now in Crimea, maybe there are other WWII analogies that can be used here but Austria is not one. you didn't answer my question. Was Hitler right to take (invade) Austria and annex it to the third reich ?
You didn't even ask that question. The subject of assimilation of all Germanic countries and people in one nation may be taboo these days but back then it was the legitimate will of all German people to live in one country. You cannot compare pre-WWII European politics to the modern day ones.
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On March 18 2014 19:54 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2014 19:49 ImFromPortugal wrote:On March 18 2014 19:46 zeo wrote:On March 18 2014 19:40 ImFromPortugal wrote:On March 18 2014 19:36 zeo wrote:On March 18 2014 19:20 ImFromPortugal wrote:On March 18 2014 18:39 myminerals wrote:On March 18 2014 17:28 Silvanel wrote:
Polish media reports that turnout during referendum in Sevastopol was 124%. 474k votes cats while theres 383k people registred in Sevastopol. Pretty funny that they still make those kinds of mistakes, i mean they should be pretty good at faking votings right now. Hell, why did they even bother? The general popultion was in favor of being anexed anyway.
Also some people who were against anexation are being evicted from their homes. I am sure that 80% if not more of Crimea citizens would like to join Russia. Above that, the same thing can be said for all eastern cities of Ukraine, such as Donetsk or Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkiv and many others. Rigged or not this referendum does not prove anything. Crimea has always been a Russian territory with people who think of themselves as Russians and speak Russian, what other facts do you need? I am not saying that it was absolutely right to "annex" this territory now, but I can't disagree with the fact that russian people live there. Was Hitler right when he invaded Austria? Hitler didn't invade Austria, don't be silly. just like russia diddn't invade Ukraine? And just as russians won't annex Crimea? silly boy. You cannot compare a whole country wanting to become a part of a greater pan-Germanic nation to what is happening now in Crimea, maybe there are other WWII analogies that can be used here but Austria is not one. you didn't answer my question. Was Hitler right to take (invade) Austria and annex it to the third reich ? You didn't even ask that question. The subject of assimilation of all Germanic countries and people in one nation may be taboo these days but back then it was the legitimate will of all German people to live in one country. You cannot compare pre-WWII European politics to the modern day ones.
i want your opinion.. was Hitler right or not?
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He is right, Hitler didn't invade Austria! As already quoted:
They transferred power to Germany, and Wehrmacht troops entered Austria to enforce the Anschluss. The Nazis held a plebiscite within the following month, asking the people to ratify the fait accompli. They claimed to have received 99.7561% of the vote in favor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anschluss
So basically Austria was already part of Germany, when the "invading" troops arrived!
But don't get picky, Hitler just wanted his home country to support him! 
Great that we are back to Godwin ...
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Zurich15361 Posts
And back on Ukraine please.
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Putin's press conference is about to start. Direct feed here. I can't view it where I am now, perhaps someone can do a LR?
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Also, lol:
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Putin is questioning the initial "giving" Crimea to Ukraine. It was Soviet Russia doing this, the people did not want it because it was a big bad Soviet Russia doing it, it was unconstitutional it was a mistake etc.
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On March 18 2014 19:59 ImFromPortugal wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2014 19:54 zeo wrote:On March 18 2014 19:49 ImFromPortugal wrote:On March 18 2014 19:46 zeo wrote:On March 18 2014 19:40 ImFromPortugal wrote:On March 18 2014 19:36 zeo wrote:On March 18 2014 19:20 ImFromPortugal wrote:On March 18 2014 18:39 myminerals wrote:On March 18 2014 17:28 Silvanel wrote:
Polish media reports that turnout during referendum in Sevastopol was 124%. 474k votes cats while theres 383k people registred in Sevastopol. Pretty funny that they still make those kinds of mistakes, i mean they should be pretty good at faking votings right now. Hell, why did they even bother? The general popultion was in favor of being anexed anyway.
Also some people who were against anexation are being evicted from their homes. I am sure that 80% if not more of Crimea citizens would like to join Russia. Above that, the same thing can be said for all eastern cities of Ukraine, such as Donetsk or Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkiv and many others. Rigged or not this referendum does not prove anything. Crimea has always been a Russian territory with people who think of themselves as Russians and speak Russian, what other facts do you need? I am not saying that it was absolutely right to "annex" this territory now, but I can't disagree with the fact that russian people live there. Was Hitler right when he invaded Austria? Hitler didn't invade Austria, don't be silly. just like russia diddn't invade Ukraine? And just as russians won't annex Crimea? silly boy. You cannot compare a whole country wanting to become a part of a greater pan-Germanic nation to what is happening now in Crimea, maybe there are other WWII analogies that can be used here but Austria is not one. you didn't answer my question. Was Hitler right to take (invade) Austria and annex it to the third reich ? You didn't even ask that question. The subject of assimilation of all Germanic countries and people in one nation may be taboo these days but back then it was the legitimate will of all German people to live in one country. You cannot compare pre-WWII European politics to the modern day ones. i want your opinion.. was Hitler right or not?
Just answer the fucking question zeo.
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On March 18 2014 20:06 zatic wrote:
And back on Ukraine please.
Saved by the bell!
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Russian democracy. Ukraine parliament is illegal, vote for Crimean anschluss is fine.
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